This will be a narrow victory. You're right, there'll be no mandate. But i'm not sure that's important. Trump is bigly popular despite losing the popular vote - more Americans wanted someone else. The Democrats have continued to show how inept they are about looking at their party as a whole and looking at how their opposition wins and saying, " How can we mimic that?"GannonFan wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 6:36 am What a cluster of an election. Both Trump and Biden say the other can't win without cheating, the Senate doesn't flop control but will be tighter, the House doesn't move very much at all, and we're likely looking at either a Biden Presidency with no mandate and no control of Congress or a Trump Presidency with no mandate and no control of Congress (but control of the upper half, which is better than the alternative). Neither candidate is really bringing anything to the table in terms of policy or improvement for the country, so we're stuck with 4 years of ineffective leadership and bitterly divided partisan sniping in a Congress that won't be able to do anything because they can't dare talk to the other side. And no matter who wins there's a chance they could die in office or be 25th'd out sooner than later.
You'd like to think that come 2024 we have to do better - this was always going to be a cluster of an election because the two guys at the top of it just flat out stunk in terms of leaders. But who are the leaders who will step up next time? The Dems started campaigning the moment Trump was elected and after 4 years the best they could do is a mentally diminished and decrepit Joe Biden. The GOP has been saddled with the personality cult of Trump and with the way he sucks the air out of the room you can't even tell who's standing that could fill the gap once he stomps off the stage. Maybe in 4 years a Harris versus Haley matchup could materialize into something promising for the nation, but both will have to step it up in terms of leadership between now and then.
We were with friends until 4am, they're uber liberals (one is Cuban-American) and they're pissed at the Democrats. The identity politics, focusing so much energy on BLM instead kitchen politics, plays right into the Republicans hands.
We're in for a contentious few days.