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SDHornet wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 10:38 am VoTeR fRaUd DoEsNt ExIsT

That's egregious. You know what could prevent that? Voter roll hygiene. Hard difficult is it to scrub a list of names against people that have died, changed their address, filed a tax return in the state, etc... I feel that voter rolls can be more exact with some common sense.


Oh...and Voter Id laws. Maybe? :mrgreen:
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Ibanez wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 10:43 am
SDHornet wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 10:38 am VoTeR fRaUd DoEsNt ExIsT

That's egregious. You know what could prevent that? Voter roll hygiene. Hard difficult is it to scrub a list of names against people that have died, changed their address, filed a tax return in the state, etc... I feel that voter rolls can be more exact with some common sense.


Oh...and Voter Id laws. Maybe? :mrgreen:
Guess which party is against scrubbing the voter rolls or invalid data?
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SDHornet wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 10:46 am
Ibanez wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 10:43 am

That's egregious. You know what could prevent that? Voter roll hygiene. Hard difficult is it to scrub a list of names against people that have died, changed their address, filed a tax return in the state, etc... I feel that voter rolls can be more exact with some common sense.


Oh...and Voter Id laws. Maybe? :mrgreen:
Guess which party is against scrubbing the voter rolls or invalid data?
I know it isn't the one that purges valid voters and has a history of voter caging. Both parties have screwed themselves on this.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/201 ... ions-trump


There is a common sense way to purge invalid voters from the rolls.
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Ibanez wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 10:52 am
SDHornet wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 10:46 am

Guess which party is against scrubbing the voter rolls or invalid data?
I know it isn't the one that purges valid voters and has a history of voter caging. Both parties have screwed themselves on this.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/201 ... ions-trump


There is a common sense way to purge invalid voters from the rolls.
It's a simple query among different data sets. Not hard at all.
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SDHornet wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 10:56 am
Ibanez wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 10:52 am

I know it isn't the one that purges valid voters and has a history of voter caging. Both parties have screwed themselves on this.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/201 ... ions-trump


There is a common sense way to purge invalid voters from the rolls.
It's a simple query among different data sets. Not hard at all.
You'd think, right? :lol:
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Ibanez wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 10:52 am
SDHornet wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 10:46 am

Guess which party is against scrubbing the voter rolls or invalid data?
I know it isn't the one that purges valid voters and has a history of voter caging. Both parties have screwed themselves on this.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/201 ... ions-trump


There is a common sense way to purge invalid voters from the rolls.
Georgia has a simple and effective system for maintaining ACCURATE voter rolls.
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Philly not letting observers in. What are they hiding?
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Baldy wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 11:18 am
Ibanez wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 10:52 am

I know it isn't the one that purges valid voters and has a history of voter caging. Both parties have screwed themselves on this.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/201 ... ions-trump


There is a common sense way to purge invalid voters from the rolls.
Georgia has a simple and effective system for maintaining ACCURATE voter rolls.
Which is? I don't know how SC does it but i'm sure crayons and construction paper are involved.
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SDHornet wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 10:52 am
Anyone wanna tell this guy that Trump increased his support among every demographic, except white men?
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Baldy wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 11:21 am
SDHornet wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 10:52 am
Anyone wanna tell this guy that Trump increased his support among every demographic, except white men?
I guess a third of Team Brown and a smaller chunk of blacks are white nationalists.
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Nevada - It'll take us until Saturday to count 50k ballots

Pennsylvania - it'll take us until the end of the day to count about 500k ballots


Nevada..it's not that difficult.
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SDHornet wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 11:19 am Philly not letting observers in. What are they hiding?
Penn Secretary of State Kathy Boockvar just said on CNN that's a lie. They closed down for awhile b/c of a lawsuit that made them adjust the spacing between stations (which is going to slow down the count) so that Republicans can get a better view. Both parties are allowed a representative and that they even live stream it.

https://www.wired.com/story/philadelphi ... tion-2020/
IT IS POSSIBLE that watching hours of inconclusive election results deep into the night has poisoned your brain. It happens! Fortunately, that same vote-tallying vortex also offers an antidote: the gentle zen of the Philadelphia City Commissioners’ ballot-counting livestream.
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Baldy wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 11:21 am
SDHornet wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 10:52 am
Anyone wanna tell this guy that Trump increased his support among every demographic, except white men?
Did he reach the 30% black vote predicted on these here boards?

How about indies?
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kalm wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 11:56 am
Baldy wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 11:21 am
Anyone wanna tell this guy that Trump increased his support among every demographic, except white men?
Did he reach the 30% black vote predicted on these here boards?

How about indies?
I don't know or care what was predicted on these here boards, and the subject of the tweet isn't independents or this board. The fact of the matter is that Trump increased his support among every demographic except white men.

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-s ... ll-1545144
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Baldy wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 12:18 pm
kalm wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 11:56 am

Did he reach the 30% black vote predicted on these here boards?

How about indies?
I don't know or care what was predicted on these here boards, and the subject of the tweet isn't independents or this board. The fact of the matter is that Trump increased his support among every demographic except white men.

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-s ... ll-1545144
Why don't white men like him as much??
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My dad and uncle grew up in Bayonne, NJ, across the street from a guy who went on to become a NJ labor leader/mobster very active in Hudson County and state politics.

My uncle knew this pretty well because they were the same age and went to school together all through high school.

Any way, years later, my uncle ran into him leaving a polling place on election day. So my uncle asked his old classmate why it took the voting precincts in that area to report vote counts.

So the guy replied: "Come on. We gotta know how many votes we need before we report." :lol:

If you think the vote counting after-the-fact is on the up and up, you're dreaming. It's almost comical that we are told to accept that the "mail-in vote" comes from Democrats as an explanation as to why every extended count results in enough votes to wipe out any lead less than 2% by a Republican on election night.

I saw PA AG Josh Shapiro explaining that all is well, that the vote counters were "volunteers," and I almost laughed out loud. Where I come from, those "volunteers" include many people very loyal to the labor unions, if you catch my drift. But I'm sure Philly is clean as a whistle.
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It's honestly hard to imagine Trump ever conceding this.

Going to be ugly as hell till Jan 20.
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Skjellyfetti wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 12:35 pm It's honestly hard to imagine Trump ever conceding this.

Going to be ugly as hell till Jan 20.
He already basically said he won't concede if he loses.
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This whole election looks very much like when Dino Rossi won the Washington Governor, but then was surpassed by Christine Gregoire after two recounts.

They blamed it on not having solid rules in place for such a close election.

https://komonews.com/news/local/new-vot ... ud-in-wash
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JoltinJoe wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 12:20 pm My dad and uncle grew up in Bayonne, NJ, across the street from a guy who went on to become a NJ labor leader/mobster very active in Hudson County and state politics.

My uncle knew this pretty well because they were the same age and went to school together all through high school.

Any way, years later, my uncle ran into him leaving a polling place on election day. So my uncle asked his old classmate why it took the voting precincts in that area to report vote counts.

So the guy replied: "Come on. We gotta know how many votes we need before we report." :lol:

If you think the vote counting after-the-fact is on the up and up, you're dreaming. It's almost comical that we are told to accept that the "mail-in vote" comes from Democrats as an explanation as to why every extended count results in enough votes to wipe out any lead less than 2% by a Republican on election night.

I saw PA AG Josh Shapiro explaining that all is well, that the vote counters were "volunteers," and I almost laughed out loud. Where I come from, those "volunteers" include many people very loyal to the labor unions, if you catch my drift. But I'm sure Philly is clean as a whistle.
When one party is promoting mail in voting and and another isn't, it makes sense why there would be that bias. It seems you should have some faith in the process. Otherwise, do something about it. :twocents:
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SeattleGriz wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 12:50 pm This whole election looks very much like when Dino Rossi won the Washington Governor, but then was surpassed by Christine Gregoire after two recounts.
You're saying Trump is going to win after multiple recounts? :suspicious: ;)
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SeattleGriz wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 12:50 pm This whole election looks very much like when Dino Rossi won the Washington Governor, but then was surpassed by Christine Gregoire after two recounts.

They blamed it on not having solid rules in place for such a close election.

https://komonews.com/news/local/new-vot ... ud-in-wash
Wow. How could it be so wrong? I think it's accepted, at least from what I've read and heard, that a recount could show a difference of a hundred votes, give or take.

But a recount isn't going to move 1000s. :twocents:
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Ibanez wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 1:05 pm
SeattleGriz wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 12:50 pm This whole election looks very much like when Dino Rossi won the Washington Governor, but then was surpassed by Christine Gregoire after two recounts.

They blamed it on not having solid rules in place for such a close election.

https://komonews.com/news/local/new-vot ... ud-in-wash
Wow. How could it be so wrong? I think it's accepted, at least from what I've read and heard, that a recount could show a difference of a hundred votes, give or take.

But a recount isn't going to move 1000s. :twocents:
How many fortuitous bounces have gone Trump's way vs Biden? How many times have they found uncounted ballots for Trump?
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