2020 General Election

[AZGrizFan]

You don’t get it. People are coming out against Trump. Obama vs McCain wasn’t a hate filled, lie and mud slinging fest like the last 4 years and the Trump campaign was. Trump is the biggest driver and reason fir his failure.

He’s just like HRC in that he won’t take responsibility for his failure.

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He's like HRC in more ways than not taking responsibility for his own failures.

One way he’s NOT like HRC. HRC will never be president.

[Ibanez]

Easy - the Democrats are so incredibly clever to perpetrate a fraud across the 50 states that they forgot to drop off the fraudulent ballots for the other states.

Or maybe the USPS failed to deliver them.

My point - is that while it's strange and you have to wonder what's going on, there's no evidence to prove it. Trump has claimed there's fraud. Ok, that's a serious charge. The burden of proof is on the accuser. "What may be asserted without evidence, may be dismissed without evidence."

They saw no need to do it in 40+ states that were either deep red or blue.

Deep blue like Georgia? C’mon. You’re looking for a a scapegoat. It’s not some low amount of fraud. It was Trump. He’s the reason.


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[Ibanez]

I feel the same way at people thinking Trump was an honorable man

I never said Trump was honorable.

No you just stand by your man as he shits on the country.


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[AZGrizFan]

WTF is going on in Alaska? Did they all leave to go fishing?

[Ibanez]

He's like HRC in more ways than not taking responsibility for his own failures.

One way he’s NOT like HRC. HRC will never be president.

Touché. But he’s still a punk bitch


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[Ibanez]

WTF is going on in Alaska? Did they all leave to go fishing?

They’re to busy spying on Russia.


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[GannonFan]

You know, you keep saying that Trump has been Putin's puppet for the past 4 years, but when confronted with the evidence to the contrary, you never seem to be able to back up your assertion. Can you tell us all again how Trump has been a puppet for Putin for these past 4 years? I think he's a buffoon and a destructive narcissist, but I'm still waiting for the proof that he's basically a Russian Manchurian candidate. Feel free to provide the proof.

You saw saw how he was cowed at Helsinki and then had meetings in the Oval Office with Russian intelligence people with no other Americans present, not even a translator like the one whose notes were confiscated in Helsinki. He owes $400,000,000 to persons unknown and pays taxes to the Chinese government but not to the US government. What does he pay taxes on in China? Income? Real Estate? Underage girls?

More bluster, less actual outcomes. What has Trump done in 4 years to improve Russia's geopolitical standing in the world? It sounds so easy that you should have that long list already at your fingertips, yet somehow can't get around to actually typing it. Is it too long, maybe just a condensed one then.

[Skjellyfetti]

Trump has been pushing for Russia to rejoin the G7.

The fact that the rest of the G7 said "uh, no..." changes anything?

[BDKJMU]

I never said Trump was honorable.

No you just stand by your man as he shits on the country.


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And how is he shitting on the country?

[SDHornet]

More Benford runs. Interesting enough Benford analysis was used to catch Enron's fraud.

[GannonFan]

Trump has been pushing for Russia to rejoin the G7.

The fact that the rest of the G7 said "uh, no..." changes anything?

Yeah, Europe is really standing up for the Ukraine on that one - "how dare you take Crimea, just you see, we'll keep you out of the G7 (er G8)". That'll show 'em. Might be even more effective if most of Eastern Europe and Germany, among others, weren't bending over themselves to finish natural gas pipelines so that Russia could send them fuel in much larger volumes. But you know, symbolism before actual action.

And really, how much has the G7 been in the news anyway? What, did Trump ask once for this and was turned down. Again, if he's a puppet, he sure is one crappy and ineffective puppet.

[SDHornet]

Trump has been pushing for Russia to rejoin the G7.

The fact that the rest of the G7 said "uh, no..." changes anything?

Yeah, Europe is really standing up for the Ukraine on that one - "how dare you take Crimea, just you see, we'll keep you out of the G7 (er G8)". That'll show 'em. Might be even more effective if most of Eastern Europe and Germany, among others, weren't bending over themselves to finish natural gas pipelines so that Russia could send them fuel in much larger volumes. But you know, symbolism before actual action.

jelly bringing up Russia? Who saw that coming.

[SDHornet]

[Ibanez]

No you just stand by your man as he shits on the country.


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And how is he shitting on the country?

By immediately casting doubt on our elections simply because he’s losing. He has zero evidence to prove his claims.


He has provided no evidence to support his claims. Do you blindly accept whatever your told?


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[SDHornet]

And how is he shitting on the country?

By immediately casting doubt on our elections simply because he’s losing. He has zero evidence to prove his claims.


He has provided no evidence to support his claims. Do you blindly accept whatever your told?


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Not that I disagree with this sentiment, his presser the other day was horrific, but let's not down play the wailing and gnashing of teeth about the 2016 results and the outspoken and overt narratives to disparage them.

[Ibanez]

There’s of course a chance. But as widespread enough to make a difference? Again - we can clearly settle this once Trump provides us with the evidence. It’s that easy. Just show us the proof. Well wait....


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[SDHornet]

There’s of course a chance. But as widespread enough to make a difference? Again - we can clearly settle this once Trump provides us with the evidence. It’s that easy. Just show us the proof. Well wait....


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Agreed. Let's also add in data analysis as well as the data always tells a story.

[Ibanez]

By immediately casting doubt on our elections simply because he’s losing. He has zero evidence to prove his claims.


He has provided no evidence to support his claims. Do you blindly accept whatever your told?


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Not that I disagree with this sentiment, his presser the other day was horrific, but let's not down play the wailing and gnashing of teeth about the 2016 results and the outspoken and overt narratives to disparage them.

I don’t. It was ridiculous and I’ve said before that the libs screwed themselves being anti-Trump from the start. Just like the GOP was in 2008.

I’m not going to play the “yeah but I’m 2016..” game.


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[UNI88]

By immediately casting doubt on our elections simply because he’s losing. He has zero evidence to prove his claims.

He has provided no evidence to support his claims. Do you blindly accept whatever your told?

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Not that I disagree with this sentiment, his presser the other day was horrific, but let's not down play the wailing and gnashing of teeth about the 2016 results and the outspoken and overt narratives to disparage them.

More proof that Trump and Hillary are peas in a pod ...

[SDHornet]

Not that I disagree with this sentiment, his presser the other day was horrific, but let's not down play the wailing and gnashing of teeth about the 2016 results and the outspoken and overt narratives to disparage them.

I don’t. It was ridiculous and I’ve said before that the libs screwed themselves being anti-Trump from the start. Just like the GOP was in 2008.

I’m not going to play the “yeah but I’m 2016..” game.


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I don't recall widespread questioning of the results in 2008.

[Ibanez]

There’s of course a chance. But as widespread enough to make a difference? Again - we can clearly settle this once Trump provides us with the evidence. It’s that easy. Just show us the proof. Well wait....


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Agreed. Let's also add in data analysis as well as the data always tells a story.

Past analysis suggest it occurs but hasn’t been effective at the national level. I’m all for analysis.


But you need data and evidence for that.


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[SDHornet]

Not that I disagree with this sentiment, his presser the other day was horrific, but let's not down play the wailing and gnashing of teeth about the 2016 results and the outspoken and overt narratives to disparage them.

More proof that Trump and Hillary are peas in a pod ...

No disagreement there.

[SDHornet]

Agreed. Let's also add in data analysis as well as the data always tells a story.

Past analysis suggest it occurs but hasn’t been effective at the national level. I’m all for analysis.


But you need data and evidence for that.


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Yup, data will take some time to crunch. But I suspect more analysis will be done in the near future.

[Ibanez]

I don’t. It was ridiculous and I’ve said before that the libs screwed themselves being anti-Trump from the start. Just like the GOP was in 2008.

I’m not going to play the “yeah but I’m 2016..” game.


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I don't recall widespread questioning of the results in 2008.

I meant the GOP stalling everything Obama wanted to do and the Dems doing the same thing with Trump. They just want to make the other side hurt. Sorry, should’ve been more clear.


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[SDHornet]

I don't recall widespread questioning of the results in 2008.

I meant the GOP stalling everything Obama wanted to do and the Dems doing the same thing with Trump. They just want to make the other side hurt. Sorry, should’ve been more clear.


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Ok, because we are not talking about opposing an agenda via political measures here. That should be expected to be the norm from here on out.