2020 General Election

[BDKJMU]

2000: Al Gore cheered by the left and MSM for contesting 1 state & not conceding until Dec 13.
2016-current day: Hillary Clinton blamed her loss on Russian interference.

2020 before the election:
-The left: Gore conceded too early in 2000.
-Hillary Clinton: Biden shouldn't concede under any circumstances...

3 days after the election the left on Trump not conceding a razor close election, citing voter fraud & irregularities: Orange Man Bad!!

There’s no law saying he must concede. It’s just the mature thing to do when you’ve lost.

2020 a Trump, if he concedes, blames his loss on un-verified allegations of voter fraud. Fraud which is on a scale never seen before that caused the counting to drag on and create narrow margins.


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You should brush up on your history.

[Ibanez]

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump- ... k-mulvaney


Health reasons would be the only thing that would stop him.

He won’t be stopped over indictments for Orange Man Bad by any liberal donk state AGs trying to make a name for themselves (you can indict a ham sandwich)..but he won‘t spend a day in jail.

And if he runs for the 2024 conk nomination, there‘s no doubt he will win it..

Mick only got into Congress because he wasn’t a Democrat. Mick isn’t liked too much around here...they feel he wasn’t loyal enough.


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[Ibanez]

There’s no law saying he must concede. It’s just the mature thing to do when you’ve lost.

2020 a Trump, if he concedes, blames his loss on un-verified allegations of voter fraud. Fraud which is on a scale never seen before that caused the counting to drag on and create narrow margins.


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You should brush up on your history.

Have we had millions and millions of fraudulent votes swing an election? Outside of Tammany Hall and that sort of stuff, have we seen national votes swayed with such measures? Millions of votes accross multiple states?? C’mon....


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[Ibanez]

This is the best they have...

Well Pennsylvania is assuming that a ballot without a postmark was mailed on time, why can't Georgia assume that a vote for Pence was meant for Trump?

Is this 2000???

Do Kanye votes really belong to Biden?



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[BDKJMU]

2000: Al Gore cheered by the left and MSM for contesting 1 state & not conceding until Dec 13.
2016-current day: Hillary Clinton blamed her loss on Russian interference.

2020 before the election:
-The left: Gore conceded too early in 2000.
-Hillary Clinton: Biden shouldn't concede under any circumstances...

3 days after the election the left on Trump not conceding a razor close election, citing voter fraud & irregularities: Orange Man Bad!!

There’s no law saying he must concede. It’s just the mature thing to do when you’ve lost.

2020 a Trump, if he concedes, blames his loss on un-verified allegations of voter fraud. Fraud which is on a scale never seen before that caused the counting to drag on and create narrow margins.


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If you were running for office (any office) in an election, and you were on the losing end of a close count, and you believed there were credible allegations of irregularities and/or fraud on the other side, AND most of your supporters wanted to not concede. Would you:
-Ignore your supporters, be a puss, and concede?
-Use all legal means at your disposal to contest the results as long as it took?

I hope you would choose the latter..

[Skjellyfetti]

Aw shucks

[Ibanez]

There’s no law saying he must concede. It’s just the mature thing to do when you’ve lost.

2020 a Trump, if he concedes, blames his loss on un-verified allegations of voter fraud. Fraud which is on a scale never seen before that caused the counting to drag on and create narrow margins.


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If you were running for office (any office) in an election, and you were on the losing end of a close count, and you believed there were credible allegations of irregularities and/or fraud on the other side, AND most of your supporters wanted to not concede. Would you:
-Ignore your supporters, be a puss, and concede?
-Use all legal means at your disposal to contest the results as long as it took?

I hope you would choose the latter..

I’ll do all legal activities if I thought the votes were improperly cast.

I wouldn’t get in front of TVs and start lying and making false accusations without any evidence. That’s the problem. It’s not the legal challenge. It his undermining the election with his baseless claims and wanting these votes counted but not not those votes.


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[Skjellyfetti]

Red Hats doxing an innocent poll worker....

[Ibanez]

Red Hats doxing an innocent poll worker....

Totally acceptable, right?


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[Skjellyfetti]

Aw shucks

[BDKJMU]

You should brush up on your history.

Have we had millions and millions of fraudulent votes swing an election? Outside of Tammany Hall and that sort of stuff, have we seen national votes swayed with such measures? Millions of votes accross multiple states?? C’mon....


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Millions We‘re not even talking hundreds of thousands. We‘re talking 10s of thousands..

Per FNC:
-Ga difference is currently eight 100ths of 1 percent, 4,000+ votes out of over 4.9 million
-PA difference is currently .29%, less than 20k votes out of over 6.5 million.
-WI difference is currently .63%, 20+k votes put of 3.2% million.
-AZ difference is currently 1.22%, about 38,000 votes, out of over 3.1 million
-NV difference is 1.79%, less than 23,000 votes, out of over 1.2 million.

2ndly, you have to look at it in terms of percentages . Most Tammany Hall shenanigans were in the 1800s. In 1800, the population of the US was 5+ million, and 1900 was 76+ million. Now we have 330+ million. You don‘t think we‘ve had voter fraud in US history that have involved a fraction of 1 percent of the vote in multiple states?

[UNI88]

There’s no law saying he must concede. It’s just the mature thing to do when you’ve lost.

2020 a Trump, if he concedes, blames his loss on un-verified allegations of voter fraud. Fraud which is on a scale never seen before that caused the counting to drag on and create narrow margins.

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If you were running for office (any office) in an election, and you were on the losing end of a close count, and you believed there were credible allegations of irregularities and/or fraud on the other side, AND most of your supporters wanted to not concede. Would you:
-Ignore your supporters, be a puss, and concede?
-Use all legal means at your disposal to contest the results as long as it took?

I hope you would choose the latter..

If I thought that my disputing the results would tear the country apart, I would concede for the good of the nation. And yes, I've had this happen with a local board. I chose the good of the organization over my ego.

[Skjellyfetti]

Have we had millions and millions of fraudulent votes swing an election? Outside of Tammany Hall and that sort of stuff, have we seen national votes swayed with such measures? Millions of votes accross multiple states?? C’mon....


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Millions We‘re not even talking hundreds of thousands. We‘re talking 10s of thousands..

Per FNC:
-Ga difference is currently eight 100ths of 1 percent, 4,000+ votes out of over 4.9 million
-PA difference is currently .29%, less than 20k votes out of over 6.5 million.
-WI difference is currently .63%, 20+k votes put of 3.2% million.
-AZ difference is currently 1.22%, about 38,000 votes, out of over 3.1 million
-NV difference is 1.79%, less than 23,000 votes, out of over 1.2 million.

2ndly, you have to look at it in terms of percentages . Most Tammany Hall shenanigans were in the 1800s. In 1800, the population of the US was 5+ million, and 1900 was 76+ million. Now we have 330+ million. You don‘t think we‘ve had voter fraud in US history that have involved a fraction of 1 percent of the vote in multiple states?

So, those states would be tied without the voter fraud? No more illegal votes to be counted?

Michigan was won legitimately?

[UNI88]

If you were running for office (any office) in an election, and you were on the losing end of a close count, and you believed there were credible allegations of irregularities and/or fraud on the other side, AND most of your supporters wanted to not concede. Would you:
-Ignore your supporters, be a puss, and concede?
-Use all legal means at your disposal to contest the results as long as it took?

I hope you would choose the latter..

I’ll do all legal activities if I thought the votes were improperly cast.

I wouldn’t get in front of TVs and start lying and making false accusations without any evidence. That’s the problem. It’s not the legal challenge. It his undermining the election with his baseless claims and wanting these votes counted but not not those votes.

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[BDKJMU]

If you were running for office (any office) in an election, and you were on the losing end of a close count, and you believed there were credible allegations of irregularities and/or fraud on the other side, AND most of your supporters wanted to not concede. Would you:
-Ignore your supporters, be a puss, and concede?
-Use all legal means at your disposal to contest the results as long as it took?

I hope you would choose the latter..

If I thought that my disputing the results would tear the country apart, I would concede for the good of the nation. And yes, I've had this happen with a local board. I chose the good of the organization over my ego.

Well, apparently that didn‘t apply to the donks in 2000.

And exhausting all legal means into Dec or even Jan isn‘t going to tear the country apart.

[Skjellyfetti]

They're not going to be able to extend it into Dec or Jan without legit claims that can get through more than a hearing in court. So far, none of their attempts have stuck.

Maybe they find something, but we haven't seen it yet. And, they're going to have to find enough in enough states to make a difference in electoral college math.

[BDKJMU]

They're not going to be able to extend it into Dec or Jan without legit claims that can get through more than a hearing in court. So far, none of their attempts have stuck.

Maybe they find something, but we haven't seen it yet.

Well then, that would deflate any notion of the country being torn apart..

[Ibanez]

Have we had millions and millions of fraudulent votes swing an election? Outside of Tammany Hall and that sort of stuff, have we seen national votes swayed with such measures? Millions of votes accross multiple states?? C’mon....


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Millions We‘re not even talking hundreds of thousands. We‘re talking 10s of thousands..

Per FNC:
-Ga difference is currently eight 100ths of 1 percent, 4,000+ votes out of over 4.9 million
-PA difference is currently .29%, less than 20k votes out of over 6.5 million.
-WI difference is currently .63%, 20+k votes put of 3.2% million.
-AZ difference is currently 1.22%, about 38,000 votes, out of over 3.1 million
-NV difference is 1.79%, less than 23,000 votes, out of over 1.2 million.

2ndly, you have to look at it in terms of percentages . Most Tammany Hall shenanigans were in the 1800s. In 1800, the population of the US was 5+ million, and 1900 was 76+ million. Now we have 330+ million. You don‘t think we‘ve had voter fraud in US history that have involved a fraction of 1 percent of the vote in multiple states?

You clearly haven’t read anything I’ve posted.

I’ve mentioned like Tammany Hall but the scale is different. Obviously different populations and time.

My point is that that evidence suggests that fraud, when it occurs in the modern age, doesn’t have much of an impact, if any. The checks and balance, the observations, the security measures make it difficult for widespread fraud to occur. It would take a conspiracy of monumental proportions. It would take such a coordinated, clever effort to execute such a conspiracy accross multiple jurisdictions.


And for what? To lose seats? To not win as many as was needed and have a to close to call election?? It simply is illogical.


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[Ibanez]

If I thought that my disputing the results would tear the country apart, I would concede for the good of the nation. And yes, I've had this happen with a local board. I chose the good of the organization over my ego.

Well, apparently that didn‘t apply to the donks in 2000.

And exhausting all legal means into Dec or even Jan isn‘t going to tear the country apart.

That was 20 yrs ago. Get over it and move on. Be a better person.


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[UNI88]

If I thought that my disputing the results would tear the country apart, I would concede for the good of the nation. And yes, I've had this happen with a local board. I chose the good of the organization over my ego.

Well, apparently that didn‘t apply to the donks in 2000.

And exhausting all legal means into Dec or even Jan isn‘t going to tear the country apart.

Read Ibanez's post - exhausting all legal means isn't the issue it's "lying and making false accusations without any evidence. That’s the problem. It’s not the legal challenge. It's his undermining the election with his baseless claims and wanting these votes counted but not not those votes."

Trump needs to grow TF up.

[Ibanez]

I think we can be relieved that there’s no way a Republican Senate confirms Warren or Sanders for a cabinet post.


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[Skjellyfetti]

Do we still do confirmations, though? I thought the President appoints an calls it a day. No need to worry about confirmation.

[AZGrizFan]

And how is he shitting on the country?

By immediately casting doubt on our elections simply because he’s losing. He has zero evidence to prove his claims.


He has provided no evidence to support his claims. Do you blindly accept whatever your told?


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No, but apparently you do.

[AZGrizFan]

Well, apparently that didn‘t apply to the donks in 2000.

And exhausting all legal means into Dec or even Jan isn‘t going to tear the country apart.

Read Ibanez's post - exhausting all legal means isn't the issue it's "lying and making false accusations without any evidence. That’s the problem. It’s not the legal challenge. It's his undermining the election with his baseless claims and wanting these votes counted but not not those votes."

Trump needs to grow TF up.

So it’s wrong for him to want them to count the legal votes only, and not the illegally cast ones?

Please explain to me how that’s wrong.

[Skjellyfetti]

It's not wrong. His team hasn't presented any illegally cast ones to a court, though.

Yelling about illegally cast votes on Twitter is different and riles up his base to threaten poll workers on no basis.

If he has evidence that can hold up in court. Present it, argue your case, or STFU.