2020 General Election

[Winterborn]

Something that is being missed is what happened in the down ballot areas across the states. Personally I find this much more interesting from a potential future prediction, as state elections are usually a precursor to what happens nationally and could very well indicate a shift in 2022 midterms. Granted much depends on how Biden and the Democrats handle things in the next few years.

Eighty-six of 99 state legislative chambers across 44 states held general elections on November 3, 2020. As of 3:00 p.m. ET on November 9, partisan control flipped in two chambers—Republicans gained majorities in the New Hampshire House of Representatives and the New Hampshire State Senate.

Majorities in two chambers remained undecided: the Alaska House of Representatives and the Arizona House of Representatives.

Heading into the 2020 elections, Republicans had majorities in 59 chambers and Democrats had majorities in 39 chambers. In the Alaska House, there was a power-sharing agreement between the parties as part of a coalition.

The National Conference of State Legislatures' Tim Storey and Wendy Underhill wrote, "With just two chamber flips so far, it looks like 2020 will see the least party control changes on Election Day since at least 1944 when only four chambers changed hands. In the 1926 and 1928 elections, only one chamber changed hands."[1]

As a result of the 2020 elections, Republicans have so far gained trifectas—single-party control of the governorship and both state legislative chambers—in two states: New Hampshire and Montana. In New Hampshire, Gov. Chris Sununu (R) won re-election. In Montana, Republicans maintained majorities in both legislative chambers and Greg Gianforte (R) won the gubernatorial race.

https://ballotpedia.org/Election_result ... ty_control

[Winterborn]

Hey! Saw you were "killing" it in the 2020 death pool.

Congrats.

He's also slaying the memes and posters thread too.

Glad somebody enjoys them.

[UNI88]

Haven't we been over this?

Maybe...just few times.

The last 4 years haven't helped either side much.

FYP

[GannonFan]

Something that is being missed is what happened in the down ballot areas across the states. Personally I find this much more interesting from a potential future prediction, as state elections are usually a precursor to what happens nationally and could very well indicate a shift in 2022 midterms. Granted much depends on how Biden and the Democrats handle things in the next few years.

Eighty-six of 99 state legislative chambers across 44 states held general elections on November 3, 2020. As of 3:00 p.m. ET on November 9, partisan control flipped in two chambers—Republicans gained majorities in the New Hampshire House of Representatives and the New Hampshire State Senate.

Majorities in two chambers remained undecided: the Alaska House of Representatives and the Arizona House of Representatives.

Heading into the 2020 elections, Republicans had majorities in 59 chambers and Democrats had majorities in 39 chambers. In the Alaska House, there was a power-sharing agreement between the parties as part of a coalition.

The National Conference of State Legislatures' Tim Storey and Wendy Underhill wrote, "With just two chamber flips so far, it looks like 2020 will see the least party control changes on Election Day since at least 1944 when only four chambers changed hands. In the 1926 and 1928 elections, only one chamber changed hands."[1]

As a result of the 2020 elections, Republicans have so far gained trifectas—single-party control of the governorship and both state legislative chambers—in two states: New Hampshire and Montana. In New Hampshire, Gov. Chris Sununu (R) won re-election. In Montana, Republicans maintained majorities in both legislative chambers and Greg Gianforte (R) won the gubernatorial race.

https://ballotpedia.org/Election_result ... ty_control

That was a focus again for Dems this year, to try to wrench back control of state legislatures and governorships, especially with this being a 10 year election and redistricting beginning to start again in the new year following the census. Again, Biden did well enough at the top of the ticket to take the White House, but the Dems certainly underperformed elsewhere on the ballot, both federally and at the state level. Voters clearly went with the mixed government mandate this time around.

[BDKJMU]

This is an example of why mayors & gov can go f*ck themselves over quarantine orders. Good enough for thee, but no for me..

When I go up to my brother's in CT around the holidays I'm suppose to quarantine or something like that. Am I going to? No.

[Winterborn]

That was a focus again for Dems this year, to try to wrench back control of state legislatures and governorships, especially with this being a 10 year election and redistricting beginning to start again in the new year following the census. Again, Biden did well enough at the top of the ticket to take the White House, but the Dems certainly underperformed elsewhere on the ballot, both federally and at the state level. Voters clearly went with the mixed government mandate this time around.

Let the gerrymandering began.

I had never even thought of the census redistricting till one of the people I follow on youtube mentioned it and then I started to take a closer look at the state side. It is something that I will definitely have to pay attention as more is happening at the State level recently than federal.

A mixed bag is usually what happens when the pendulum swings too far in one or the other directions.

[UNI88]

That was a focus again for Dems this year, to try to wrench back control of state legislatures and governorships, especially with this being a 10 year election and redistricting beginning to start again in the new year following the census. Again, Biden did well enough at the top of the ticket to take the White House, but the Dems certainly underperformed elsewhere on the ballot, both federally and at the state level. Voters clearly went with the mixed government mandate this time around.

Let the gerrymandering began.

I had never even thought of the census redistricting till one of the people I follow on youtube mentioned it and then I started to take a closer look at the state side. It is something that I will definitely have to pay attention as more is happening at the State level recently than federal.

A mixed bag is usually what happens when the pendulum swings too far in one or the other directions.

The impact on elections from 2022 - 2030 will likely be significant.

Expect to see Jelly's (if he's still here) gerrymandering complaints go through the roof while he knows that if the situation were reversed the Dems would be doing the same thing and he would be celebrating it because elections have consequences.

[BDKJMU]

Yep. Trump's a Nazi. AOC's a Nazi. We're all Nazis now.

You have more faith in AOC's long-term intentions than I do.

Yeah...I’m just not all that scared. We need a shift to the left. I view her more as another body helping to push the car out of the right side ditch than a true agent of change to Venezuela.

We've already had that. Gay marriage and legalized pot are the 1st 2 that come to mind. There are others as well.

[Ibanez]

Many of the GOP’s litigation concerns are meritorious in principle. But the president’s inflammatory language undercuts the claim that Republicans seek merely to uphold statutory safeguards needed to validate the results’ credibility,” Benjamin L. Ginsberg, a longtime Republican elections lawyer who left Jones Day in August, wrote in The Washington Post the following month.

Six Jones Day lawyers said that given the small number of late-arriving ballots involved in the litigation, and the fact that they already had been segregated, the main goal of the litigation seemed to be to erode public confidence in the election results.

https://www.business-standard.com/artic ... 688_1.html

Are we allowed to trust Republican election lawyers?

[UNI88]

Yeah...I’m just not all that scared. We need a shift to the left. I view her more as another body helping to push the car out of the right side ditch than a true agent of change to Venezuela.

We've already had that. Gay marriage and legalized pot are the 1st 2 that come to mind. There are others as well.

Socially, this country is gradually becoming more open-minded. Trump's presidency was a speed bump along the way that slowed that shift down but will be insignificant in the long run.

That is something that I don't think the modern pseudo-progressives understand and why they thought that Trump's election and possible reelection were the end of the republic.

[Winterborn]

Let the gerrymandering began.

I had never even thought of the census redistricting till one of the people I follow on youtube mentioned it and then I started to take a closer look at the state side. It is something that I will definitely have to pay attention as more is happening at the State level recently than federal.

A mixed bag is usually what happens when the pendulum swings too far in one or the other directions.

The impact on elections from 2022 - 2030 will likely be significant.

Expect to see Jelly's (if he's still here) gerrymandering complaints go through the roof while he knows that if the situation were reversed the Dems would be doing the same thing and he would be celebrating it because elections have consequences.

The census has the potential to change quite a bit even outside of the redistricting area. I am curious to see if there are trends in state population levels and the racial makeup of areas vs voting records. I am a data junkie and I like seeing how many ways I can cut and slice the data to pull out different results and seeing if those trends pan out in the future.

Playing with data makes me a happy person. Well that and beer.

[Winterborn]

We've already had that. Gay marriage and legalized pot are the 1st 2 that come to mind. There are others as well.

Socially, this country is gradually becoming more open-minded. Trump's presidency was a speed bump along the way that slowed that shift down but will be insignificant in the long run.

That is something that I don't think the modern pseudo-progressives understand and why they thought that Trump's election and possible reelection were the end of the republic.

Disagree. I think his Presidency will have sped everything up for the better. There will always be the hold outs and the fact that the news likes to emphasis them is only because they like the ratings either making fun of them or embracing them brings.

[BDKJMU]

The impact on elections from 2022 - 2030 will likely be significant.

Expect to see Jelly's (if he's still here) gerrymandering complaints go through the roof while he knows that if the situation were reversed the Dems would be doing the same thing and he would be celebrating it because elections have consequences.

The census has the potential to change quite a bit even outside of the redistricting area. I am curious to see if there are trends in state population levels and the racial makeup of areas vs voting records. I am a data junkie and I like seeing how many ways I can cut and slice the data to pull out different results and seeing if those trends pan out in the future.

Playing with data makes me a happy person. Well that and beer.

You're just like JSO...

JK..you're a much better version..

[Winterborn]

The census has the potential to change quite a bit even outside of the redistricting area. I am curious to see if there are trends in state population levels and the racial makeup of areas vs voting records. I am a data junkie and I like seeing how many ways I can cut and slice the data to pull out different results and seeing if those trends pan out in the future.

Playing with data makes me a happy person. Well that and beer.

You're just like JSO...

JK..you're a much better version..

Dear all that is good and decent I hope I never go full JSO. I give permission for somebody to run me over with a John Deere steam roller if that ever happens.

[UNI88]

You're just like JSO...

JK..you're a much better version..

Dear all that is good and decent I hope I never go full JSO. I give permission for somebody to run me over with a John Deere steam roller if that ever happens.

Don't worry, we have someone on standby for just such an occasion.

Seriously, you use data to try and find the truth, JSO uses data to help support the conclusion that he has already determined to be the truth.

[Winterborn]

Dear all that is good and decent I hope I never go full JSO. I give permission for somebody to run me over with a John Deere steam roller if that ever happens.

Don't worry, we have someone on standby for just such an occasion.

Seriously, you use data to try and find the truth, JSO uses data to help support the conclusion that he has already determined to be the truth.

Just make sure they don't stall the machine out half way through the job.

Thanks. I try to be as objective as possible and find out what the data means irregardless of my personal beliefs. There are many times I feel like I am not objectionable enough, as I know my personal tendencies creep in (these past few months especially).

[HI54UNI]

Manchin: ‘I Will Not Vote’ for Court-Packing, Ending Filibuster if Dems Take Senate

On Monday’s broadcast of the Fox News Channel’s “Special Report,” Sen. Joe Manchin (D-WV) vowed that he will not vote for packing the courts or ending the filibuster if Democrats take the majority in the Senate. Manchin also expressed opposition to defunding the police, Medicare for all, and the Green New Deal.

https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2020/11 ... ke-senate/

[SDHornet]

None of the results are certified yet, so no. And no, the "software glitch" was found and fixed after the ballots were hand counted. How many other results are impacted by "software glitches"? It's something worth looking into imo. Shouldn't be hard to determine one way or the other after some spot checking/audits via hand counting.

Your newfound concern with election security is an inspiration to us all!

So you're only concerned when the Russians are "allegedly" involved?

[SDHornet]

One of the upsides from the election is the turmoil within the Democratic Party around their socialists members. AOC threatening to leave. People not sure what's going on with them.

How great would it be if either AOC left OR the Squad left the Democrats and joined the Socialist Party. I think you could run against them easier with that moniker.

Going to be a fun couple of years coming up. And I mean that in the most chaotic way possible.

Both the Republicans and Democrats have some introspecting to do. I think the R's survive relatively intact, the D's I only give a 50/50 shot. All depends on the narrative coming from the upper management.

blm is already starting to eat the white liberal elite. Very entertaining times ahead.

[SDHornet]

Let the gerrymandering began.

I had never even thought of the census redistricting till one of the people I follow on youtube mentioned it and then I started to take a closer look at the state side. It is something that I will definitely have to pay attention as more is happening at the State level recently than federal.

A mixed bag is usually what happens when the pendulum swings too far in one or the other directions.

The impact on elections from 2022 - 2030 will likely be significant.

Expect to see Jelly's (if he's still here) gerrymandering complaints go through the roof while he knows that if the situation were reversed the Dems would be doing the same thing and he would be celebrating it because elections have consequences.

Yep. Not to mention federal judges stocked up with Trump appointees.

[SDHornet]

Dear all that is good and decent I hope I never go full JSO. I give permission for somebody to run me over with a John Deere steam roller if that ever happens.

Don't worry, we have someone on standby for just such an occasion.

Seriously, you use data to try and find the truth, JSO uses data to help support the conclusion that he has already determined to be the truth.

He's been awfully quiet on the data regarding voting anomalies observed so far.

[SDHornet]

Manchin: ‘I Will Not Vote’ for Court-Packing, Ending Filibuster if Dems Take Senate

On Monday’s broadcast of the Fox News Channel’s “Special Report,” Sen. Joe Manchin (D-WV) vowed that he will not vote for packing the courts or ending the filibuster if Democrats take the majority in the Senate. Manchin also expressed opposition to defunding the police, Medicare for all, and the Green New Deal.

https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2020/11 ... ke-senate/

Mean conks just have to eek out one of the Senate runoffs in GA, assuming Manchin sticks to his guns.

[SDHornet]

Shouldn't be hard to determine one way or the other after some spot checking/audits via hand counting.

That happens after every election. It's called a canvass.

Um no. Try again. Canvassing is basically exit polling. I'm talking about an actual audit/recount of the votes that were cast.

[GannonFan]

Manchin: ‘I Will Not Vote’ for Court-Packing, Ending Filibuster if Dems Take Senate

On Monday’s broadcast of the Fox News Channel’s “Special Report,” Sen. Joe Manchin (D-WV) vowed that he will not vote for packing the courts or ending the filibuster if Democrats take the majority in the Senate. Manchin also expressed opposition to defunding the police, Medicare for all, and the Green New Deal.

https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2020/11 ... ke-senate/

Mean conks just have to eek out one of the Senate runoffs in GA, assuming Manchin sticks to his guns.

I think they just really need to win one of the seats, and to have Manchin on their side, to prevent court packing or Senate packing or ending the filibuster. Only winning one seat would leave the Dems in control of the Senate (with the VP tiebreaker) but if Manchin isn't going to go along with those more apocalyptic items then that would still serve to block those things from happening. Obviously, winning both Georgia runoffs would do that as well. I'd be surprised if there's a split outcome in those runoffs, I think the races go to one party, and if I had to be on it I'd say it would go to the GOP. But I don't bet so take that with a grain of salt.

[Skjellyfetti]

Um no. Try again. Canvassing is basically exit polling. I'm talking about an actual audit/recount of the votes that were cast.

Here's a state by state breakdown for you. It's not exit polling
https://www.ncsl.org/research/elections ... 26066.aspx


An audit and a recount are different things. Do you want an audit in each of the relatively close states or a full recount?