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89Hen wrote: Mon Nov 23, 2020 2:32 pm
I don't understand computer nerdspeak, but seems like a bunch of computer nerds just proved the notion that the election "was the most secure in US history" is a bunch of BS....
Nerdspeak? What industry do you work in?


I wonder what the physical security requirements are around voting machines.


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BDKJMU wrote: Mon Nov 23, 2020 4:35 pm
89Hen wrote: Mon Nov 23, 2020 2:32 pm
I don't understand computer nerdspeak, but seems like a bunch of computer nerds just proved the notion that the election "was the most secure in US history" is a bunch of BS....
Right. Because you saw a video on the internet. You have US government cybersecurity experts who are constantly dealing with this stuff from all over the world telling you one thing but you're not going to believe it because you saw a video on the internet.
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BDKJMU wrote: Mon Nov 23, 2020 4:35 pm
89Hen wrote: Mon Nov 23, 2020 2:32 pm
I don't understand computer nerdspeak, but seems like a bunch of computer nerds just proved the notion that the election "was the most secure in US history" is a bunch of BS....
Tell you what though: If the machine recount in Georgia changes the result we'll talk. If this sort of thing is possible, now that we've had both an initial count as well as a hand audit of every vote both showing Biden winning, I have no doubt Trump people will try it. And if the final machine recount shows a different result than both the initial count and the hand audit of every vote we'll have a pretty good indication that something is up.
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Re: 2020 General Election

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kalm wrote: Mon Nov 23, 2020 4:53 pm
89Hen wrote: Mon Nov 23, 2020 2:33 pm I assume you guys know that Now This is a very left group.
So it’s fake then?
That is a valid question. :nod:

Guess it comes down to research and where the subject in question takes one.
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Re: 2020 General Election

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JohnStOnge wrote: Mon Nov 23, 2020 6:29 pm Again: This whole thing of acting like we should be SURPRISED that people voted against Trump is ridiculous. AGAIN: HE IS AN HISTORICALLY UNPOPULAR PRESIDENT. The majority of the People wanted him out and that's how they voted. Stop looking for "fraud" as the reason when it's not.
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Trump garnered 73 million votes, the most in any American election outside of Biden's 80 million votes. Biden won the popular vote by 7 million people - 5 million in California, 1 million in New York and the rest scattered between Washington and Oregon primarily and a few other Dem strongholds. How many of those for Biden were anything but Trump votes (funny how he lost by the same reason he won against Hillary. Guess it goes from Hillary>Trump>Biden in the way people rank their dislike of them.) Trump lost the EC by about 45k votes in 3 states. That is not much of a sweeping mandate now is it? Almost exactly like how he was voted into office. :coffee:

One has to wonder if he could of just kept his fingers away from Twitter what could/may of happened. Then again he may not be the figure he is without those Tweets. Something for the Historians to argue about over a beer I guess. :nod:

BTW: Hilary lost the election by 77k in three Midwest states. We are the same country in 2020 as we were in 2016, just a little more jaded and hopefully wiser.
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Re: 2020 General Election

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CAA Flagship wrote: Mon Nov 23, 2020 7:26 pm
Nope. I don't "believe" either side of the argument. Both sides are possible. And I know we will never know the truth. We will only know what we are told. YOU on the other hand, believe what you are told. That's dangerous.

In football refereeing terminology, the play "stands", as opposed to "confirmed".
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Re: 2020 General Election

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Winterborn wrote: Mon Nov 23, 2020 8:54 pm
JohnStOnge wrote: Mon Nov 23, 2020 6:29 pm Again: This whole thing of acting like we should be SURPRISED that people voted against Trump is ridiculous. AGAIN: HE IS AN HISTORICALLY UNPOPULAR PRESIDENT. The majority of the People wanted him out and that's how they voted. Stop looking for "fraud" as the reason when it's not.
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Trump garnered 73 million votes, the most in any American election outside of Biden's 80 million votes. Biden won the popular vote by 7 million people - 5 million in California, 1 million in New York and the rest scattered between Washington and Oregon primarily and a few other Dem strongholds. How many of those for Biden were anything but Trump votes (funny how he lost by the same reason he won against Hillary. Guess it goes from Hillary>Trump>Biden in the way people rank their dislike of them.) Trump lost the EC by about 45k votes in 3 states. That is not much of a sweeping mandate now is it? Almost exactly like how he was voted into office. :coffee:

One has to wonder if he could of just kept his fingers away from Twitter what could/may of happened. Then again he may not be the figure he is without those Tweets. Something for the Historians to argue about over a beer I guess. :nod:

BTW: Hilary lost the election by 77k in three Midwest states. We are the same country in 2020 as we were in 2016, just a little more jaded and hopefully wiser.
The MSM count (well NBC) shows Biden up by 6 million. Biden at about 79.8, Trump at about 73.8. Or rounded 80 million to 74 million.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-e ... nt-results

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Re: 2020 General Election

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BDKJMU wrote: Mon Nov 23, 2020 9:40 pm
Winterborn wrote: Mon Nov 23, 2020 8:54 pm

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Trump garnered 73 million votes, the most in any American election outside of Biden's 80 million votes. Biden won the popular vote by 7 million people - 5 million in California, 1 million in New York and the rest scattered between Washington and Oregon primarily and a few other Dem strongholds. How many of those for Biden were anything but Trump votes (funny how he lost by the same reason he won against Hillary. Guess it goes from Hillary>Trump>Biden in the way people rank their dislike of them.) Trump lost the EC by about 45k votes in 3 states. That is not much of a sweeping mandate now is it? Almost exactly like how he was voted into office. :coffee:

One has to wonder if he could of just kept his fingers away from Twitter what could/may of happened. Then again he may not be the figure he is without those Tweets. Something for the Historians to argue about over a beer I guess. :nod:

BTW: Hilary lost the election by 77k in three Midwest states. We are the same country in 2020 as we were in 2016, just a little more jaded and hopefully wiser.
The MSM count (well NBC) shows Biden up by 6 million. Biden at about 79.8, Trump at about 73.8. Or rounded 80 million to 74 million.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-e ... nt-results

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But state and county election data show that four years ago - when Donald Trump carried the state by a much narrower margin - twice as many Detroit precincts were out of balance.
https://www.stamfordadvocate.com/news/a ... 748326.php

This has never been about election safety or integrity. It's always been about trying to undermine the will of the voters and steal the election.
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Re: 2020 General Election

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Ibanez wrote: Tue Nov 24, 2020 7:03 am
BDKJMU wrote: Mon Nov 23, 2020 9:40 pm
The MSM count (well NBC) shows Biden up by 6 million. Biden at about 79.8, Trump at about 73.8. Or rounded 80 million to 74 million.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-e ... nt-results

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Ibanez wrote: Mon Nov 23, 2020 7:42 pm
BDKJMU wrote: I don't understand computer nerdspeak, but seems like a bunch of computer nerds just proved the notion that the election "was the most secure in US history" is a bunch of BS....
Nerdspeak? What industry do you work in?
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BDKJMU wrote: Tue Nov 24, 2020 7:10 am
Ibanez wrote: Tue Nov 24, 2020 7:03 am
You really have nit-pick everything, don't you?
Yes. :tothehand:
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kalm wrote: Tue Nov 24, 2020 7:11 am
Ibanez wrote: Mon Nov 23, 2020 7:42 pm
Nerdspeak? What industry do you work in?
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Re: 2020 General Election

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kalm wrote: Sun Nov 22, 2020 11:10 am
BDKJMU wrote: Sun Nov 22, 2020 10:47 am
Link?

52% Of Republicans Think Trump ‘Rightfully Won’ Election, Poll Finds
https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurk ... 7fc4c649e1
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.forbes ... y-win/amp/
Ok, was 75% Rasmussen poll last week, and 79% below:
66% GOP wants Trump to run in 2024, 79% say election ‘stolen’

..... “Sixty-six percent of GOP voters think President Trump should run again for president in 2024. Provided a list of potential candidates, Trump leads the 2024 field among Republican voters, with 35%. He’s trailed by Vice President Mike Pence (19%), Donald Trump Jr. (11%), Ambassador Nikki Haley (7%), and Senator Ted Cruz (6%),” said the analysis.....
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/wash ... ion-stolen
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Re: 2020 General Election

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Ibanez wrote: Tue Nov 24, 2020 7:13 am
kalm wrote: Tue Nov 24, 2020 7:11 am

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Winterborn wrote: Tue Nov 24, 2020 7:44 am
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Ibanez wrote: Tue Nov 24, 2020 7:54 am

There's a kink out there for everyone.
Who knew that the Furries were trend setters with their masks. :shock:
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kalm wrote: Mon Nov 23, 2020 4:53 pm
89Hen wrote: Mon Nov 23, 2020 2:33 pm I assume you guys know that Now This is a very left group.
So it’s fake then?
:lol: No, I thought you might find it interesting that it's a lefty group going out of their way to show you how easy it is to hack voting machines.
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JohnStOnge wrote: Mon Nov 23, 2020 6:23 pm It is past time that Republicans stop chasing the "voter fraud" White Whale. It's not there. It's nonsense.
How about we stop chasing voter fraud when the left stops chasing voter suppression?
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JohnStOnge wrote: Mon Nov 23, 2020 6:36 pm Again: Please. Just stop. Stuff like that makes conservatism look stupid. And actually, when you look at how the majority of conservatives are behaving right now, maybe it's valid to say the conservatives are generally stupid. But that doesn't mean that true conservaTISM is stupid. So stop making it look that way.
Again: you do know that the video was made by a leftist group. You make yourself look stupid and you don't stop.
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Winterborn wrote: Mon Nov 23, 2020 8:56 pm
CAA Flagship wrote: Mon Nov 23, 2020 7:26 pm
Nope. I don't "believe" either side of the argument. Both sides are possible. And I know we will never know the truth. We will only know what we are told. YOU on the other hand, believe what you are told. That's dangerous.

In football refereeing terminology, the play "stands", as opposed to "confirmed".
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Pennsylvania, Wisconsin Georgia.

Trump flips those, it's game on!
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SeattleGriz wrote: Tue Nov 24, 2020 2:32 pm Pennsylvania, Wisconsin Georgia.

Trump flips those, it's game on!
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SeattleGriz wrote: Tue Nov 24, 2020 2:32 pm Pennsylvania, Wisconsin Georgia.

Trump flips those, it's game on!
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SeattleGriz wrote: Tue Nov 24, 2020 2:32 pm Pennsylvania, Wisconsin Georgia.

Trump flips those, it's game on!
The most important point is that if Trump were to flip those three States it'd mean we'd be in a crisis as a country because he would've succeeded in corrupting our representative system of government. We would be in banana republic territory where the guy who clearly lost a free and fair election managed to stay in the game to stay in power even though The People clearly indicated they want him out.

You should not be hoping for that sort of thing if you love your Country. You should be at the front of the line saying we should all hope nothing like that happens.
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