AZGrizFan wrote: ↑Wed Nov 25, 2020 6:34 pm
It would appear that many of the surges are abating already. Many countries across Europe and many states are now seeing downward trends again.
thankfully. Charleston has been decreasing for some time. My county (York) was one of the top counties for surges in cases/deaths but it seems that we're on the other side of it.
Though, after Thanksgiving all of those decreases could be temporarily lost.
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Gil Dobie wrote: ↑Tue Dec 01, 2020 2:05 pm
Downturn in numbers of Active Cases and deaths so far this week.
Trends will catch up next week.
We are also under a "lockdown" in Minnesota, which just means bars and restaurants are closed. On my bike ride on Saturday, I saw several large gatherings at households around town.
Btw, I will reply to your thoughtful post in the other thread when I get a chance.
(kalm rises above the shenanigans of petty shots)
That is your narrative. Along with asking for "link"......
No hurry.
“The best of all things is to learn. Money can be lost or stolen, health and strength may fail, but what you have committed to your mind is yours forever.” – Louis L’Amour
“Hard times create strong men. Strong men create good times. Good times create weak men. And, weak men create hard times.” - G. Michael Hopf
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SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Sat Nov 28, 2020 12:19 pm
The gist of the article: There has been no appreciable increase in deaths due to COVID. Same deaths are happening, now we just label them as a COVID death instead.
The flaw in the logic is that there are more outcomes than death or recovery.
Arguing about the exact cause of almost 300,000 deaths where covid played a role is a red herring.
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SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Sat Nov 28, 2020 12:19 pm
The gist of the article: There has been no appreciable increase in deaths due to COVID. Same deaths are happening, now we just label them as a COVID death instead.
The flaw in the logic is that there are more outcomes than death or recovery.
Arguing about the exact cause of almost 300,000 deaths where covid played a role is a red herring.
No it isn’t. Because they never differentiate between “with COVID” and “from COVID”. The fact they had COVID could have played ZERO role, but they’re counted anyways.
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SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Sat Nov 28, 2020 12:19 pm
The gist of the article: There has been no appreciable increase in deaths due to COVID. Same deaths are happening, now we just label them as a COVID death instead.
The flaw in the logic is that there are more outcomes than death or recovery.
Arguing about the exact cause of almost 300,000 deaths where covid played a role is a red herring.
Really doesn't prove anything, other than covid deaths hit the population at similar rates to other deaths.
The flaw in the logic is that there are more outcomes than death or recovery.
Arguing about the exact cause of almost 300,000 deaths where covid played a role is a red herring.
Really doesn't prove anything, other than covid deaths hit the population at similar rates to other deaths.
Actually, it means those with bad comorbidities were probably going to die, they just needed that little extra push from COVID. And if it wasn't COVID, it was going to be something else.
Really doesn't prove anything, other than covid deaths hit the population at similar rates to other deaths.
Actually, it means those with bad comorbidities were probably going to die, they just needed that little extra push from COVID. And if it wasn't COVID, it was going to be something else.
Residents in city of Los Angeles to ‘remain in their homes’ amid COVID-19 surge, mayor’s office says
All residents within the city of Los Angeles should continue to remain in their homes and follow the city’s “safer-at-home” order, which mirrors guidance from L.A. County, according to the mayor’s office.
A public order posted on the mayor’s website Wednesday detailed many of the restrictions, including a ban on some travel with a variety of exemptions.
The flaw in the logic is that there are more outcomes than death or recovery.
Arguing about the exact cause of almost 300,000 deaths where covid played a role is a red herring.
No it isn’t. Because they never differentiate between “with COVID” and “from COVID”. The fact they had COVID could have played ZERO role, but they’re counted anyways.
Still a red herring. Many would have survived had not COVID kicked them over the edge and they also clog up the healthcare system rendering treatment impossible for other patients. Remember that the purpose of the quarantine was to flatten the curve in order to keep the hospitals from being overwhelemed and States having to bid against each other on the black market for medical equipment. The fact that most people with covid only will recover and many won't even know they've had it doesn't tell the whole story.
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HI54UNI wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 7:42 am
Stay home!
Residents in city of Los Angeles to ‘remain in their homes’ amid COVID-19 surge, mayor’s office says
All residents within the city of Los Angeles should continue to remain in their homes and follow the city’s “safer-at-home” order, which mirrors guidance from L.A. County, according to the mayor’s office.
A public order posted on the mayor’s website Wednesday detailed many of the restrictions, including a ban on some travel with a variety of exemptions.
These are the poor bastards I feel for. Its one thing to stay home when you have 25 acres of room but I just can't imagine living in an apartment in a big city with maybe a balcony to step out on. I'm surprised that there aren't a lot more people wigging out.
The best way to keep people passive and obedient is to strictly limit the spectrum of opinion but allow very lively debate within that spectrum - Noam Chomsky
The best way to keep people passive and obedient is to strictly limit the spectrum of opinion but allow very lively debate within that spectrum - Noam Chomsky
Bed rationing in Spokane now. A friend’s grandpa is the only resident of his care center that has not tested positive. They sent two to an ICU yesterday who were returned due to lack of beds.
Thank you, you two. I said MANY, not all.
1 in 800 North Dakotans has died of covid, or with covid if you prefer.
The best way to keep people passive and obedient is to strictly limit the spectrum of opinion but allow very lively debate within that spectrum - Noam Chomsky
1 in 800 North Dakotans has died of covid, or with covid if you prefer.
so, with a population just shy of 800,000, that’s about 1,000 people. Over 8,000 North Dakotans have died from other causes. Do you weep for them too?
red herring
The best way to keep people passive and obedient is to strictly limit the spectrum of opinion but allow very lively debate within that spectrum - Noam Chomsky