Coronavirus COVID-19

[BDKJMU]

Germany starts rolling out a digital EU vaccination pass
https://abcnews.go.com/amp/Health/wireS ... s-78193790

[Gil Dobie]

Expected, and have no problem with it. Will never lose my car keys with them magnetically stuck to my forehead.

My issue is with the narrative that is being pushed. Let the data speak for itself.


I don't get a flu shot yearly and probably never will. This is shaping up to be something similar and alot of fear porn thrown at people for no reason.

I look at it as general health, I got the Shingles shot, then a better one was offered in a 2 shot regimen, so I signed up and got them. I always get the flu shot, because I don't like getting sick and sitting around doing nothing. I really don't understand the fear porn that people talk about.

[SDHornet]

This is not a one and done type "vaccine". Still some work to be done but I will bet a beer that booster shots will be touted for the next 'X" years......

Johnson & Johnson CEO Alex Gorsky reiterated Wednesday that people will likely need to receive additional doses of the Covid-19 vaccines alongside the annual flu shot for the next “several years.”

People will need to get the Covid booster shots until herd immunity is achieved on a global level and world leaders and scientists are able to limit the spread of highly contagious variants, Gorsky said during The Wall Street Journal’s Tech Health conference.

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/06/09/covid-v ... years.html

[SDHornet]

There is a lot of fear porn and it's coming from both sides. On one side you have the people who think that a large percentage of people who get COVID need to be hospitalized and many of them die. On the other you have the people who think it's no worse than the flu or that it's a hoax. The truth as usual is somewhere in between what the Karens on either side are screaming.

I agree. That is why I said to follow the data. Making decisions based on emotions and feelings is not the right route.

For a certain segment of society I definitely think that the vaccine is a good "voluntary" choice for them to make based on the different characteristics of this pathogen and if I was in that particular age or history bracket I would happily get the vaccine. I am in no case trying to say it is a hoax or that the vaccine is bad (at least that we know of in the short term). I see the data and then I see the mainstream media hype, the political double speak and just feel that common sense has been lost amidst of all the screaming and pointing of fingers and trying to gain political capital against ones perceived "enemies". And what we will all lose is the many different shades and shapes of freedom in the end.

I am more concerned with the different choices/paths we are being presented with as individuals and society that use COVID and the corresponding "panic" as a societal lever. Maybe my concerns are unfounded, maybe they are not. The next couple of months will be interesting to say the least.

Spot on. If I was in Gil's shoes, I'd no doubt get the vaccine. But the data for my current demographic says I have next to nothing to worry about.

[SDHornet]

[kalm]

I agree. That is why I said to follow the data. Making decisions based on emotions and feelings is not the right route.

For a certain segment of society I definitely think that the vaccine is a good "voluntary" choice for them to make based on the different characteristics of this pathogen and if I was in that particular age or history bracket I would happily get the vaccine. I am in no case trying to say it is a hoax or that the vaccine is bad (at least that we know of in the short term). I see the data and then I see the mainstream media hype, the political double speak and just feel that common sense has been lost amidst of all the screaming and pointing of fingers and trying to gain political capital against ones perceived "enemies". And what we will all lose is the many different shades and shapes of freedom in the end.

I am more concerned with the different choices/paths we are being presented with as individuals and society that use COVID and the corresponding "panic" as a societal lever. Maybe my concerns are unfounded, maybe they are not. The next couple of months will be interesting to say the least.

Spot on. If I was in Gil's shoes, I'd no doubt get the vaccine. But the data for my current demographic says I have next to nothing to worry about.

I’d get even if me and my family were all healthy. On account of 1) I want it gone
2). Community.

[CID1990]

Anybody else notice that there seems be a lot of overlap between the people who downplayed COVID due to its miniscule hospitalization rate and the people who go berserk over a miniscule chance of having complications from the various vaccines?


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[UNI88]

Anybody else notice that there seems be a lot of overlap between the Karens who downplayed COVID due to its miniscule hospitalization rate and the Karens who go berserk over a miniscule chance of having complications from the various vaccines?

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[kalm]

Anybody else notice that there seems be a lot of overlap between the Karens who downplayed COVID due to its miniscule hospitalization rate and the Karens who go berserk over a miniscule chance of having complications from the various vaccines?

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True and true. Karens transcend ideology.

[AZGrizFan]

Anybody else notice that there seems be a lot of overlap between the people who downplayed COVID due to its miniscule hospitalization rate and the people who go berserk over a miniscule chance of having complications from the various vaccines?


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Well I’ve been pretty clear all along that I didn’t want to get vaccinated. Not because of “complications”, but because for 27 years I had zero say in what went into my body. That control lay with the United States Navy. As soon as I retired, when I got that power back, I’ve made good use of it…NEVER had a flu shot, or any other BS injected into my body.

That being said, I GOT the vaccine this week because my wife bribed me.

[kalm]

Anybody else notice that there seems be a lot of overlap between the people who downplayed COVID due to its miniscule hospitalization rate and the people who go berserk over a miniscule chance of having complications from the various vaccines?


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Well I’ve been pretty clear all along that I didn’t want to get vaccinated. Not because of “complications”, but because for 27 years I had zero say in what went into my body. That control lay with the United States Navy. As soon as I retired, when I got that power back, I’ve made good use of it…NEVER had a flu shot, or any other BS injected into my body.

That being said, I GOT the vaccine this week because my wife bribed me.

This is funny on several levels.

[AZGrizFan]

Well I’ve been pretty clear all along that I didn’t want to get vaccinated. Not because of “complications”, but because for 27 years I had zero say in what went into my body. That control lay with the United States Navy. As soon as I retired, when I got that power back, I’ve made good use of it…NEVER had a flu shot, or any other BS injected into my body.

That being said, I GOT the vaccine this week because my wife bribed me.

This is funny on several levels.

I’m weak in matters of the flesh.

[Ibanez]

This is funny on several levels.

I’m weak in matters of the flesh.

The things we do for love.....

[kalm]

I’m weak in matters of the flesh.

The things we do for love.....

10cc > Skynard and ABB.

[Ibanez]

The things we do for love.....

10cc > Skynard and ABB.

One of my favorite songs to play on the Ukelele is 10cc.."I'm not in love..So don't forget it"

[SDHornet]

@ Colbert frantically waving his arms to try and get Stewart from dropping that on his show.

[Gil Dobie]

The things we do for love.....

10cc > Skynard and ABB.

Apples and oranges

10cc = muzak elevator music

[SeattleGriz]

Huh. This sounds oddly familiar.

https://www.journalofinfection.com/arti ... 6/fulltext

In light of our findings that more than half of individuals with positive PCR test results are unlikely to have been infectious, RT-PCR test positivity should not be taken as an accurate measure of infectious SARS-CoV-2 incidence. Our results confirm the findings of others that the routine use of “positive” RT-PCR test results as the gold standard for assessing and controlling infectiousness fails to reflect the fact “that 50-75% of the time an individual is PCR positive, they are likely to be post-infectious”

[AZGrizFan]

@ Colbert frantically waving his arms to try and get Stewart from dropping that on his show.

I fucking love him. That dipshit that took his place can’t hold his jock.

[BDKJMU]

WV offering guns, trucks, and cash as incentives to get vaccinated.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/gu ... s-n1269352

Apparently the trucks are customized and lifted also. All WV needs to do is add the option of ammo, beer, or shine, and they'd be the most vaccinated state in the country lol.

BTW, WV has a 6% sales tax, but as of July 1st, no sales tax on guns and ammo in WV..

[UNI88]

They Relied on Chinese Vaccines. Now They're Battling Outbreaks.

Mongolia promised its people a “COVID-free summer.” Bahrain said there would be a “return to normal life.” The tiny island nation of the Seychelles aimed to jump-start its economy.

All three put their faith, at least in part, in easily accessible Chinese-made vaccines, which would allow them to roll out ambitious inoculation programs at a time when much of the world was going without.

But instead of freedom from the coronavirus, all three countries are now battling a surge in infections.

I'm guessing China has already reverse engineered the Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna vaccines and are trying to use what they found to improve their own vaccines. It's what they do.

[Ivytalk]

They Relied on Chinese Vaccines. Now They're Battling Outbreaks.

Mongolia promised its people a “COVID-free summer.” Bahrain said there would be a “return to normal life.” The tiny island nation of the Seychelles aimed to jump-start its economy.

All three put their faith, at least in part, in easily accessible Chinese-made vaccines, which would allow them to roll out ambitious inoculation programs at a time when much of the world was going without.

But instead of freedom from the coronavirus, all three countries are now battling a surge in infections.

I'm guessing China has already reverse engineered the Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna vaccines and are trying to use what they found to improve their own vaccines. It's what they do.

Red Chinese vaccines are just more cheap shyt made in China.

[SDHornet]

Oh. Lancet issuing a retract on the Daszak articles and his removal from the China Virus Commission is quite comical.

[SDHornet]

[AZGrizFan]

Liberals: If only people had worn their masks like they were asked and washed their hands like they were asked and social distanced like they were asked we could have nipped this COVID pandemic in the bud in 3 weeks. But NOOOOOOO! Conservatives bitched and moaned and caused unnecessary deaths!

Also Liberals: Yay! There were almost ZERO flu deaths this flu season because people wore their masks and social distanced and washed their hands! Yay us!