Miami Apartment Building Collapse
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Re: Miami Apartment Building Collapse
I’m assuming these high rises are supposed to be inspected by structural engineers every X # of years. When was the building last inspected, and how did it pass?
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Re: Miami Apartment Building Collapse
Wonder if that could be due to the salt air?
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Re: Miami Apartment Building Collapse
Yes, but they should be built to withstand that.
Otherwise you'd have towers collapsing all the time.
It will be months, if not years, before they figure out exactly what happened.
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Re: Miami Apartment Building Collapse
The building is at 8777 Collins Ave.
One block north looks to be an almost identical set of buildings...
https://www.google.com/maps/place/8777+ ... 80.1209256
One block north looks to be an almost identical set of buildings...
https://www.google.com/maps/place/8777+ ... 80.1209256
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Re: Miami Apartment Building Collapse
Believe that’s where the security cam video came from.dbackjon wrote: ↑Thu Jun 24, 2021 3:56 pm The building is at 8777 Collins Ave.
One block north looks to be an almost identical set of buildings...
https://www.google.com/maps/place/8777+ ... 80.1209256
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Re: Miami Apartment Building Collapse
Obviously we'll have to wait for the investigation, but I'm wary of working in Florida. It's anecdotal but Florida - along with Puerto Rico - have the most "relaxed" governments I've ever dealt with (state and local). Despite larger bureaucratic red tapes, projects in the Northeast that take two months can easily take four or more in Florida...all because no one ever does anything in a timely manner. Around here I'll call up an inspector or reviewer and get an answer almost the same day, sometimes in that same phone call. In Florida I'm lucky if anyone answers that same week.
I'll say this too (and again it's anecdotal), but the infrastructure down there is horribly maintained from what I've experienced. Part of it is the salt and humidity, but if that's the environment you're going to live in, you need to pay to play. I'm not sure I trust anything in Florida built in the coked out 70s and 80s with deregulation, large budget cuts, and lax codes being the norm (post-Andrew designs are much better).
I'll say this too (and again it's anecdotal), but the infrastructure down there is horribly maintained from what I've experienced. Part of it is the salt and humidity, but if that's the environment you're going to live in, you need to pay to play. I'm not sure I trust anything in Florida built in the coked out 70s and 80s with deregulation, large budget cuts, and lax codes being the norm (post-Andrew designs are much better).
Re: Miami Apartment Building Collapse
Besides the cause being a sudden outside force, I'd bet almost anything there were warnings of a failure that were either missed, misunderstood, or ignored. Even if a sinkhole was forming, signs would have developed ahead of time.
Obviously I don't blame anyone in the building (RIP) for not knowing what signs to look for.
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Re: Miami Apartment Building Collapse
FWIW seeing some theories about nearby construction pumping out water and other material to place footings and how it has been shaking nearby buildings. Speculation that this could have undermined something in this building.
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Re: Miami Apartment Building Collapse
Florida is notorious for sinkholes forming out of nowhere. A condo we stayed at near Orlando, collapsed into a sinkhole a year after our stay.
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Re: Miami Apartment Building Collapse
Urban renewal.
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Re: Miami Apartment Building Collapse
I heard that on the radio, saying the electric wire breaking would have cause "plasma claps" like lightning, more or less.
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Re: Miami Apartment Building Collapse
Updated tally:
Deaths:4
Missing: 159
I’m just surprised they haven’t found more bodies yet.
Deaths:4
Missing: 159
I’m just surprised they haven’t found more bodies yet.
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Re: Miami Apartment Building Collapse
I heard the local IHOP has pancakes half off in memory of the victims.
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Re: Miami Apartment Building Collapse
You know it's coming. Have they started blaming DeSantis yet? Climate Change???
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Oh, Climate change is definitely in the mix....you know, rising sea levels and all causing instability in the surrounding soil...
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Re: Miami Apartment Building Collapse
Except any rational person understands that is a risk to the coastline, especially barrier islands like Miami Beach that never should have been built on in the first place.
It will be months before a cause is found, if not longer, and this one probably has zero to do with rising sea levels, but it's coming.
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Re: Miami Apartment Building Collapse
lol. The mayor already blamed rising sea levels.dbackjon wrote: ↑Fri Jun 25, 2021 1:52 pmExcept any rational person understands that is a risk to the coastline, especially barrier islands like Miami Beach that never should have been built on in the first place.
It will be months before a cause is found, if not longer, and this one probably has zero to do with rising sea levels, but it's coming.
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Re: Miami Apartment Building Collapse
A veritable King Canute!AZGrizFan wrote: ↑Fri Jun 25, 2021 2:50 pmlol. The mayor already blamed rising sea levels.dbackjon wrote: ↑Fri Jun 25, 2021 1:52 pm
Except any rational person understands that is a risk to the coastline, especially barrier islands like Miami Beach that never should have been built on in the first place.
It will be months before a cause is found, if not longer, and this one probably has zero to do with rising sea levels, but it's coming.
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Re: Miami Apartment Building Collapse
Still 4 confirmed deaths, 159 missing. Very surprised in a day and a half that hasn’t changed..
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Re: Miami Apartment Building Collapse
Great update, BDK
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