Coronavirus COVID-19

[SeattleGriz]

You have to take the difference in deaths from Aug 11 to Aug 19, which was 96 cases. 50 of those 96 were vaccinated, thus 52% of those that died, were vaccinated.

This site only recently started collecting this information in August and is one of the few that gives information like this.

The link shows 49 Breakthrough deaths as of August 11, and 87 as of August 19th. I am seeing 38 breakthrough deaths not 50, is this modern math, or what am I missing?

August 11th August 11th Link

As of today, Southern Nevada Health District is reporting a total of 225 breakthrough hospitalizations and 49 breakthrough deaths (37 of them were hospitalized)in Clark county, Nevada.

August 19th August 19th link

As of today, Southern Nevada Health District is reporting a total of 304 breakthrough hospitalizations and 87 breakthrough deaths (72 of them were hospitalized)in Clark county, Nevada.

Here you go, here's the original article. Knock yourself out.

https://redstate.com/scotthounsell/2021 ... ys-n432117

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The link shows 49 Breakthrough deaths as of August 11, and 87 as of August 19th. I am seeing 38 breakthrough deaths not 50, is this modern math, or what am I missing?

August 11th August 11th Link

As of today, Southern Nevada Health District is reporting a total of 225 breakthrough hospitalizations and 49 breakthrough deaths (37 of them were hospitalized)in Clark county, Nevada.

August 19th August 19th link

As of today, Southern Nevada Health District is reporting a total of 304 breakthrough hospitalizations and 87 breakthrough deaths (72 of them were hospitalized)in Clark county, Nevada.

Here you go, here's the original article. Knock yourself out.

https://redstate.com/scotthounsell/2021 ... ys-n432117

He's right in that there's an increase of 96 deaths between August 11 and August 19. That said, I have no idea where he's getting the 50 death increase by vaccinated people. It's 38 as clearly shown in the PDFs:

August 11 (49 deaths): https://media.southernnevadahealthdistr ... deaths.pdf

August 19 (87 deaths): https://media.southernnevadahealthdistr ... deaths.pdf

Difference of 38 deaths between weeks, which is 40% of the 96 deaths in that one week.

And again, I think this is the most important statement by SNHD:

As of August 19, the Southern Nevada Health District has received reports of 6,309 fully vaccinated individuals testing positive for COVID-19. This represents 0.60% amongst the fully vaccinated or 60 cases out of every 10,000 fully vaccinated people.

[SeattleGriz]

Here you go, here's the original article. Knock yourself out.

https://redstate.com/scotthounsell/2021 ... ys-n432117

He's right in that there's an increase of 96 deaths between August 11 and August 19. That said, I have no idea where he's getting the 50 death increase by vaccinated people. It's 38 as clearly shown in the PDFs:

August 11 (49 deaths): https://media.southernnevadahealthdistr ... deaths.pdf

August 19 (87 deaths): https://media.southernnevadahealthdistr ... deaths.pdf

Difference of 38 deaths between weeks, which is 40% of the 96 deaths in that one week.

And again, I think this is the most important statement by SNHD:

As of August 19, the Southern Nevada Health District has received reports of 6,309 fully vaccinated individuals testing positive for COVID-19. This represents 0.60% amongst the fully vaccinated or 60 cases out of every 10,000 fully vaccinated people.

That is important, but let's flip it. How many Unvaccinated died?

The point being that the claim if it being a pandemic of the unvaccinated isn't holding water...at least in S Nevada.

[CID1990]

He's right in that there's an increase of 96 deaths between August 11 and August 19. That said, I have no idea where he's getting the 50 death increase by vaccinated people. It's 38 as clearly shown in the PDFs:

August 11 (49 deaths): https://media.southernnevadahealthdistr ... deaths.pdf

August 19 (87 deaths): https://media.southernnevadahealthdistr ... deaths.pdf

Difference of 38 deaths between weeks, which is 40% of the 96 deaths in that one week.

And again, I think this is the most important statement by SNHD:

As of August 19, the Southern Nevada Health District has received reports of 6,309 fully vaccinated individuals testing positive for COVID-19. This represents 0.60% amongst the fully vaccinated or 60 cases out of every 10,000 fully vaccinated people.

That is important, but let's flip it. How many Unvaccinated died?

The point being that the claim if it being a pandemic of the unvaccinated isn't holding water...at least in S Nevada.

This is idiotic

Stop muddying the water with BS.

The VAST majority in all categories - nationwide - that either contract, or die from this virus are unvaccinated.

All of the major vaccines ... fuck ... even add in the Sputnik vaccine... they all confer and enormously significant amount of immunity to thus virus.

Stop pretending you are backed by “science”

I listened to your version of “science” night shifts on end as a cop ... listening to Art Bell on Coast to Coast

Stop lying about and inventing scientific evidence to support your personal passive aggressive views on virology and evolution.

You are becoming on biology (on this board) what JSO is to politics.


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[Ivytalk]

He's right in that there's an increase of 96 deaths between August 11 and August 19. That said, I have no idea where he's getting the 50 death increase by vaccinated people. It's 38 as clearly shown in the PDFs:

August 11 (49 deaths): https://media.southernnevadahealthdistr ... deaths.pdf

August 19 (87 deaths): https://media.southernnevadahealthdistr ... deaths.pdf

Difference of 38 deaths between weeks, which is 40% of the 96 deaths in that one week.

And again, I think this is the most important statement by SNHD:

As of August 19, the Southern Nevada Health District has received reports of 6,309 fully vaccinated individuals testing positive for COVID-19. This represents 0.60% amongst the fully vaccinated or 60 cases out of every 10,000 fully vaccinated people.

That is important, but let's flip it. How many Unvaccinated died?

The point being that the claim if it being a pandemic of the unvaccinated isn't holding water...at least in S Nevada.

SG, after working so hard to be regarded as an opinion leader on here, you’ve blown it. Again. Go back to intelligent design.

[Ibanez]

Are people really eschewing the now approved Covid vaccine for a topical lice treatment (or an injestible heart worm disease drug if your an animal)?

Is this really happening?

Prisoners in Arkansas are getting it prescribed.

LITTLE ROCK, Ark. -- Inmates at a northwest Arkansas jail have been prescribed ivermectin to combat COVID-19, despite warnings from federal health officials that the antiparasitic drug should not be used to treat the coronavirus.

Washington County's sheriff confirmed Tuesday night that the jail's health provider had been prescribing the drug. Sheriff Tim Helder didn't say how many inmates at the 710-bed facility had been given ivermectin and defended the health provider the jail uses that has been prescribing the medication.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/ant ... d-79645515

I just heard that on the news. Seriously - people have zero sense.

[SeattleGriz]

That is important, but let's flip it. How many Unvaccinated died?

The point being that the claim if it being a pandemic of the unvaccinated isn't holding water...at least in S Nevada.

This is idiotic

Stop muddying the water with BS.

The VAST majority in all categories - nationwide - that either contract, or die from this virus are unvaccinated.

All of the major vaccines ... fuck ... even add in the Sputnik vaccine... they all confer and enormously significant amount of immunity to thus virus.

Stop pretending you are backed by “science”

I listened to your version of “science” night shifts on end as a cop ... listening to Art Bell on Coast to Coast

Stop lying about and inventing scientific evidence to support your personal passive aggressive views on virology and evolution.

You are becoming on biology (on this board) what JSO is to politics.


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Never fails. The old Cid method for attacking something he doesn't like. First, sprinkle in ad hominems, then state something like you're an authority. Got news for you chief. You're not a cop anymore and your shtick is tired and worn. You overplayed your hand weeks ago when you called standard immunological terms word salad.

Now would you like to address the actual topic? That being that in the S Nevada district, there were more deaths among the vaccinated than the unvaccinated?

[SeattleGriz]

That is important, but let's flip it. How many Unvaccinated died?

The point being that the claim if it being a pandemic of the unvaccinated isn't holding water...at least in S Nevada.

SG, after working so hard to be regarded as an opinion leader on here, you’ve blown it. Again. Go back to intelligent design.

Never considered myself a thought leader, just someone who likes both sides of the argument out there for people to consider.

I realize no one is a fan of pointing out how shitty this virus is, but I'd still rather be fully informed.

[SeattleGriz]

Prisoners in Arkansas are getting it prescribed.


https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/ant ... d-79645515

I just heard that on the news. Seriously - people have zero sense.

What's the issue? A doctor is prescribing the medicine. Even if it isn't effective, there is a very small chance it will hurt them.

[Ibanez]

He's right in that there's an increase of 96 deaths between August 11 and August 19. That said, I have no idea where he's getting the 50 death increase by vaccinated people. It's 38 as clearly shown in the PDFs:

August 11 (49 deaths): https://media.southernnevadahealthdistr ... deaths.pdf

August 19 (87 deaths): https://media.southernnevadahealthdistr ... deaths.pdf

Difference of 38 deaths between weeks, which is 40% of the 96 deaths in that one week.

And again, I think this is the most important statement by SNHD:

As of August 19, the Southern Nevada Health District has received reports of 6,309 fully vaccinated individuals testing positive for COVID-19. This represents 0.60% amongst the fully vaccinated or 60 cases out of every 10,000 fully vaccinated people.

That is important, but let's flip it. How many Unvaccinated died?

The point being that the claim if it being a pandemic of the unvaccinated isn't holding water...at least in S Nevada.

Dude....the vast vast VAST majority of new cases are unvaccinated people. The vast vast VAST majority of hospitalizations and deaths are unvaccinated.

Pandemic of the vaccinated makes little to no sense. Anyone thinking the vaccine will give 100% protection against all strains isn't using common sense. The fact that the break through case rate in your post is .6%, lends credence to the fact the vaccine works.

[SeattleGriz]

That is important, but let's flip it. How many Unvaccinated died?

The point being that the claim if it being a pandemic of the unvaccinated isn't holding water...at least in S Nevada.

Dude....the vast vast VAST majority of new cases are unvaccinated people. The vast vast VAST majority of hospitalizations and deaths are unvaccinated.

Pandemic of the vaccinated makes little to no sense. Anyone thinking the vaccine will give 100% protection against all strains isn't using common sense. The fact that the break through case rate in your post is .6%, lends credence to the fact the vaccine works.

I get that. This is about deaths, not case count.

[Ibanez]

This is idiotic

Stop muddying the water with BS.

The VAST majority in all categories - nationwide - that either contract, or die from this virus are unvaccinated.

All of the major vaccines ... fuck ... even add in the Sputnik vaccine... they all confer and enormously significant amount of immunity to thus virus.

Stop pretending you are backed by “science”

I listened to your version of “science” night shifts on end as a cop ... listening to Art Bell on Coast to Coast

Stop lying about and inventing scientific evidence to support your personal passive aggressive views on virology and evolution.

You are becoming on biology (on this board) what JSO is to politics.


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Never fails. The old Cid method for attacking something he doesn't like. First, sprinkle in ad hominems, then state something like you're an authority. Got news for you chief. You're not a cop anymore and your shtick is tired and worn. You overplayed your hand weeks ago when you called standard immunological terms word salad.

Now would you like to address the actual topic? That being that in the S Nevada district, there were more deaths among the vaccinated than the unvaccinated?

Who cares about a district in Nevada? Let's look at the whole. I think it was the NYT that collated all the data and it shows, from the 49 states that report, roughly .8% of all vaccinated people have contracted COVID> .8%!!!

[Ibanez]

Dude....the vast vast VAST majority of new cases are unvaccinated people. The vast vast VAST majority of hospitalizations and deaths are unvaccinated.

Pandemic of the vaccinated makes little to no sense. Anyone thinking the vaccine will give 100% protection against all strains isn't using common sense. The fact that the break through case rate in your post is .6%, lends credence to the fact the vaccine works.

I get that. This is about deaths, not case count.

Good point. If .6% are breakthrough cases, the death rate is substantially less. This site has a pretty good dashboard to visualize Vax vs UnVax
https://www.kff.org/policy-watch/covid- ... he-states/


Remember, we've been hearing all along that people aren't getting the vaccine b/c there's a 99% chance that you won't die!

[Ibanez]

I just heard that on the news. Seriously - people have zero sense.

What's the issue? A doctor is prescribing the medicine. Even if it isn't effective, there is a very small chance it will hurt them.

A doctor is prescribing anti-parasitic medication meant not an anti-viral. It's the wrong tool for the job and these people are using common sense. They also, probably, aren't taking into account how the drug will react with any other medical condition they have or medication they take. Why waste time and money on something that isn't effective and we KNOW is ineffective?

The knuckle-draggers that are anti- COVID vax b/c there's such a high survival rate/they think the vaccine was rushed (it wasn't)/it's not FDA approved who are then taking the wrong drugs is a comedy. It's such a farce.

[Ivytalk]

A woman friend in her 70s got both her flu shot and her COVID booster yesterday. She told me that, as a cancer survivor, she was at the head of the line for the booster. Very courageous lady.

[Ibanez]

A woman friend in her 70s got both her flu shot and her COVID booster yesterday. She told me that, as a cancer survivor, she was at the head of the line for the booster. Very courageous lady.

If you hear about how the booster made her feel, please report back.

A female friend of mine in her 30s is getting her booster today. I'm curious how she'll feel.

[SeattleGriz]

I get that. This is about deaths, not case count.

Good point. If .6% are breakthrough cases, the death rate is substantially less. This site has a pretty good dashboard to visualize Vax vs UnVax
https://www.kff.org/policy-watch/covid- ... he-states/


Remember, we've been hearing all along that people aren't getting the vaccine b/c there's a 99% chance that you won't die!

It's been obvious from the start. If your immunological health is poor, you need the vaccine. The issue is that we have so many people that overestimate that health.

[Ivytalk]

Good point. If .6% are breakthrough cases, the death rate is substantially less. This site has a pretty good dashboard to visualize Vax vs UnVax
https://www.kff.org/policy-watch/covid- ... he-states/


Remember, we've been hearing all along that people aren't getting the vaccine b/c there's a 99% chance that you won't die!

It's been obvious from the start. If your immunological health is poor, you need the vaccine. The issue is that we have so many people that overestimate that health.

So you’re saying that, if a person wrongfully thinks that his or her natural immunity is strong, he or she can blow off the vaccine? Need a translator for this post.

[SeattleGriz]

It's been obvious from the start. If your immunological health is poor, you need the vaccine. The issue is that we have so many people that overestimate that health.

So you’re saying that, if a person wrongfully thinks that his or her natural immunity is strong, he or she can blow off the vaccine? Need a translator for this post.

No. Saying far too many people believe their health is strong when it isn't, and then with that incorrect assumption, believe they can skip the vaccination.

[Ivytalk]

So you’re saying that, if a person wrongfully thinks that his or her natural immunity is strong, he or she can blow off the vaccine? Need a translator for this post.

No. Saying far too many people believe their health is strong when it isn't, and then with that incorrect assumption, believe they can skip the vaccination.

That’s what I just said. Read it again.

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We have to remember that it's not just about deaths, but hospitalizations too. ~10% of non-vaccinated people are getting hospitalized, and so far ~30% are having some sort of long-term issue. The VAST majority being hospitalized are non-vaccinated.

These people are taking up resources for non-Covid emergencies and sometimes require even more care when they get out. I heard an interview the other day with a parent who can't get timely treatments for their child with cancer, and another of a man who had a stroke and waited hours in the emergency room (he thankfully lived).

If you're anti-vaxx at this point, why even go to a hospital with all its science? Why not stay home and deal with Covid with your great immune system?

[kalm]

We have to remember that it's not just about deaths, but hospitalizations too. ~10% of non-vaccinated people are getting hospitalized, and so far ~30% are having some sort of long-term issue. The VAST majority being hospitalized are non-vaccinated.

These people are taking up resources for non-Covid emergencies and sometimes require even more care when they get out. I heard an interview the other day with a parent who can't get timely treatments for their child with cancer, and another of a man who had a stroke and waited hours in the emergency room (he thankfully lived).

If you're anti-vaxx at this point, why even go to a hospital with all its science? Why not stay home and deal with Covid with your great immune system?

I wonder if that choice might eventually be made for them until the hospitalizations go down?

We all do stupid shit to our bodies that potentially could land us in the ER or a bed. How do you prioritize?

[SeattleGriz]

No. Saying far too many people believe their health is strong when it isn't, and then with that incorrect assumption, believe they can skip the vaccination.

That’s what I just said. Read it again.

Yes. You got it correct both times!

[SeattleGriz]

We have to remember that it's not just about deaths, but hospitalizations too. ~10% of non-vaccinated people are getting hospitalized, and so far ~30% are having some sort of long-term issue. The VAST majority being hospitalized are non-vaccinated.

These people are taking up resources for non-Covid emergencies and sometimes require even more care when they get out. I heard an interview the other day with a parent who can't get timely treatments for their child with cancer, and another of a man who had a stroke and waited hours in the emergency room (he thankfully lived).

If you're anti-vaxx at this point, why even go to a hospital with all its science? Why not stay home and deal with Covid with your great immune system?

How about those that are overweight, diabetic or similar comorbidities? When do we start prioritizing those that listen to their doctors and stay healthy? That's the next logical choice, isn't it? You didn't get the vaccine. You chose not to push the pie away and put yourself in this spot, etc, especially considering people have known the comorbidity issue for 18 months now? Those that refuse to make lifestyle changes are right up there with those that refuse to vaccinate.

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The difference is that those things affect only you. In terms of resources, we as a society have built up the infrastructure to deal with it. We also have medicine to deal with it.

Covid has the medicine but not the infrastructure.