Coronavirus COVID-19

[kalm]

Fascinating.

But it’s just the flu, right?

Linda Geddes
Tue 28 Sep 2021 19.01 EDT
Covid-19 can infect insulin-producing cells in the pancreas and change their function, potentially explaining why some previously healthy people develop diabetes after catching the virus.

Doctors are increasingly concerned about the growing number of patients who have developed diabetes either while infected with coronavirus, or shortly after recovering from it.

Various theories have been put forward to explain this increase. One is that the virus infects pancreatic cells via the same ACE2 receptor found on the surface of lung cells, and interferes with their ability to produce insulin – a hormone that helps the body to regulate levels of glucose in the blood; alternatively, an over exuberant antibody response to the virus could accidentally damage pancreatic cells, or inflammation elsewhere in the body may be making tissues less responsive to insulin.



https://www.theguardian.com/society/202 ... HaYQ5lPIvU

[89Hen]

Fascinating.

But it’s just the flu, right?

Are we still on this?

[GannonFan]

Fascinating.

But it’s just the flu, right?

Linda Geddes
Tue 28 Sep 2021 19.01 EDT
Covid-19 can infect insulin-producing cells in the pancreas and change their function, potentially explaining why some previously healthy people develop diabetes after catching the virus.

Doctors are increasingly concerned about the growing number of patients who have developed diabetes either while infected with coronavirus, or shortly after recovering from it.

Various theories have been put forward to explain this increase. One is that the virus infects pancreatic cells via the same ACE2 receptor found on the surface of lung cells, and interferes with their ability to produce insulin – a hormone that helps the body to regulate levels of glucose in the blood; alternatively, an over exuberant antibody response to the virus could accidentally damage pancreatic cells, or inflammation elsewhere in the body may be making tissues less responsive to insulin.



https://www.theguardian.com/society/202 ... HaYQ5lPIvU

Didn't read the whole thing, but given the propensity for people who are overweight or obese to be more impacted by COVID should they get it, I don't think it's terribly shocking that this could push them into being diabetic. Truth be told, some of these people may have already had type 2 diabetes, but undiagnosed, or were on the tipping point to becoming diabetic and this just pushed them over the edge. There's not really a lot of good things that come out of being overweight or obese.

[Ivytalk]

Fascinating.

But it’s just the flu, right?

Are we still on this?

Klammy one-note obviously is.

[kalm]

Are we still on this?

Klammy one-note obviously is.

I was never on it. Your side was. Just a friendly reminder and…your welcome.

[SeattleGriz]

Klammy one-note obviously is.

I was never on it. Your side was. Just a friendly reminder and…your welcome.

*you're

[SeattleGriz]

Not sure how this plays out, but hope it doesn't end poorly.

Study performed on a Texas Federal prison outbreak of COVID is showing that after 4-6 months, the attack rate of Covid is essentially the same as being unvaccinated. Meaning, the vaccinated are infected with COVID at the same rate as the unvaccinated. (See table 2, Attack rate column for numbers 89 for vaxxed, 93 for unvaxxed)

In epidemiology, the attack rate is the percentage of an at-risk population that contracts the disease during a specified time interval.

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/ ... 38e3-H.pdf

My point being that those in a healthcare setting are susceptible to the vaccinated bringing COVID into the facility. So do you force everyone to get a booster in perpetuity every 4 months?

[Ivytalk]

Klammy one-note obviously is.

I was never on it. Your side was. Just a friendly reminder and…your welcome.

My side? Nobody does tribalism like you. Except maybe Tripz.

[Gil Dobie]

Not sure how this plays out, but hope it doesn't end poorly.

Study performed on a Texas Federal prison outbreak of COVID is showing that after 4-6 months, the attack rate of Covid is essentially the same as being unvaccinated. Meaning, the vaccinated are infected with COVID at the same rate as the unvaccinated. (See table 2, Attack rate column for numbers 89 for vaxxed, 93 for unvaxxed)

In epidemiology, the attack rate is the percentage of an at-risk population that contracts the disease during a specified time interval.

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/pdfs/mm7038e3-

My point being that those in a healthcare setting are susceptible to the vaccinated bringing COVID into the facility. So do you force everyone to get a booster in perpetuity every 4 months?

I see nothing, like doesn't work.

[89Hen]

Klammy one-note obviously is.

I was never on it. Your side was. Just a friendly reminder and…your welcome.

Our side?

[kalm]

I was never on it. Your side was. Just a friendly reminder and…your welcome.

Our side?

Yes. I wish the pandemic weren’t as political as it was from the start.

[kalm]

I was never on it. Your side was. Just a friendly reminder and…your welcome.

My side? Nobody does tribalism like you. Except maybe Tripz.

Cough cough…excuse me while I choke on the irony of that coming from you…

[UNI88]

Our side?

Yes. I wish the pandemic weren’t as political as it was from the start.

You have a side? I thought you were post-partisan, post-partisans don't have sides.

[SeattleGriz]

Not sure how this plays out, but hope it doesn't end poorly.

Study performed on a Texas Federal prison outbreak of COVID is showing that after 4-6 months, the attack rate of Covid is essentially the same as being unvaccinated. Meaning, the vaccinated are infected with COVID at the same rate as the unvaccinated. (See table 2, Attack rate column for numbers 89 for vaxxed, 93 for unvaxxed)



https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/pdfs/mm7038e3-

My point being that those in a healthcare setting are susceptible to the vaccinated bringing COVID into the facility. So do you force everyone to get a booster in perpetuity every 4 months?

I see nothing, like doesn't work.

Thank you. I'll update the original post.

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/ ... 38e3-H.pdf

[SDHornet]

Fascinating.

But it’s just the flu, right?

Linda Geddes
Tue 28 Sep 2021 19.01 EDT
Covid-19 can infect insulin-producing cells in the pancreas and change their function, potentially explaining why some previously healthy people develop diabetes after catching the virus.

Doctors are increasingly concerned about the growing number of patients who have developed diabetes either while infected with coronavirus, or shortly after recovering from it.

Various theories have been put forward to explain this increase. One is that the virus infects pancreatic cells via the same ACE2 receptor found on the surface of lung cells, and interferes with their ability to produce insulin – a hormone that helps the body to regulate levels of glucose in the blood; alternatively, an over exuberant antibody response to the virus could accidentally damage pancreatic cells, or inflammation elsewhere in the body may be making tissues less responsive to insulin.



https://www.theguardian.com/society/202 ... HaYQ5lPIvU

Good thing the vaccine stops people from getting the China Virus...oh wait...

[SDHornet]

Fascinating.

But it’s just the flu, right?

Didn't read the whole thing, but given the propensity for people who are overweight or obese to be more impacted by COVID should they get it, I don't think it's terribly shocking that this could push them into being diabetic. Truth be told, some of these people may have already had type 2 diabetes, but undiagnosed, or were on the tipping point to becoming diabetic and this just pushed them over the edge. There's not really a lot of good things that come out of being overweight or obese.

Excellent post.

[SDHornet]

Yes. I wish the pandemic weren’t as political as it was from the start.

You have a side? I thought you were post-partisan, post-partisans don't have sides.

No kidding. And "what side" do the "get the vaccine if you want it but you should be free to make your own decisions" fall?

[Ivytalk]

My side? Nobody does tribalism like you. Except maybe Tripz.

Cough cough…excuse me while I choke on the irony of that coming from you…

Not on the efficacy of vaccines, bro. We agree on little else.

[kalm]

You have a side? I thought you were post-partisan, post-partisans don't have sides.

No kidding. And "what side" do the "get the vaccine if you want it but you should be free to make your own decisions" fall?

I don’t believe I’ve ever stated that people shouldn’t be free to decide whether or not to get vaccinated.

Whether they should or that there should be consequences to. It is a different story.

So I guess I’m on the side of science, reason, and responsibility here.

If that’s post partisan…color me guilty.

[SDHornet]

No kidding. And "what side" do the "get the vaccine if you want it but you should be free to make your own decisions" fall?

I don’t believe I’ve ever stated that people shouldn’t be free to decide whether or not to get vaccinated.

Whether they should or that there should be consequences to. It is a different story.

So I guess I’m on the side of science, reason, and responsibility here.

If that’s post partisan…color me guilty.

You've advocated for lockdowns. Post partisan my harry brownish ass.

[89Hen]

Our side?

Yes. I wish the pandemic weren’t as political as it was from the start.

I didn't know I had a side.

[Ivytalk]

I don’t believe I’ve ever stated that people shouldn’t be free to decide whether or not to get vaccinated.

Whether they should or that there should be consequences to. It is a different story.

So I guess I’m on the side of science, reason, and responsibility here.

If that’s post partisan…color me guilty.

You've advocated for lockdowns. Post partisan my harry brownish ass.

*hairy

Harry is a pussy-whipped former Royal.

[SDHornet]

[Gil Dobie]

Are the Anti-Vaxxers against all Vaccines or just the Covid Vaccines?

[JohnStOnge]

Not sure how this plays out, but hope it doesn't end poorly.

Study performed on a Texas Federal prison outbreak of COVID is showing that after 4-6 months, the attack rate of Covid is essentially the same as being unvaccinated. Meaning, the vaccinated are infected with COVID at the same rate as the unvaccinated. (See table 2, Attack rate column for numbers 89 for vaxxed, 93 for unvaxxed)

In epidemiology, the attack rate is the percentage of an at-risk population that contracts the disease during a specified time interval.

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/ ... 38e3-H.pdf

My point being that those in a healthcare setting are susceptible to the vaccinated bringing COVID into the facility. So do you force everyone to get a booster in perpetuity every 4 months?

I don't know what you're looking at but the study shows vaccines reduce the risk. Table 2 shows that the vaccines are effective.It shows a "significantly" lower attack rate (p = 0.002) for fully vaccinated subjects vs. unvaccinated subjects. Also, there is this comment in the discussion on page 1350:

Attack rates were higher among unvaccinated persons (39 of 42; 93%) than among fully vaccinated persons (129 of 185;
70%) (p = 0. 002)...