Coronavirus COVID-19

[CAA Flagship]

Received my booster shot on Monday. All three were Moderna. No side effects other than mild soreness at site of injection.

[89Hen]

No side effects other than mild soreness at site of injection.

[SeattleGriz]

No side effects other than mild soreness at site of injection.

My mind immediately went there as well.

[CAA Flagship]

My mind immediately went there as well.

My mind was there as I typed it.
Was thinking about adding.....

- She

[SDHornet]

Ivermectin has side effects at the dosage recommended by doctors who have been treating COVID with it? First I've heard of that and I'm not sure you are correct.

That's why I don't care about either HCQ or Ivermectin being used as possible treatment. They both have great track records of usage and no known issues at recommended dosage that I'm aware of.

Even if you are wrong, it's not that I don't trust the vaccine, it's that I am at no risk and would rather catch Covid. I would rather have robust durable protection and keep building that with further exposure.

You remember the cruise ship Diamond Princess? 3711 people on board, quarantined for two weeks? Only 28% caught COVID and half of those showed no symptoms. There were case after case of one person in a room coming down with COVID and the rest tested negative. That means in a good portion of the population, Covid couldn't even infect them due to their current levels of immunity. You going to tell me cruise ships are filled with our finest physical specimens?

We already had a decent level of protection and still do. I'll get my Covid shot with my flu shot when I'm over 65. COVID is going after the same people that worry every cold and flu season, although a little deeper into the population. I'm not anywhere close to that group.

The French have developed an attenuated virus vaccine that I would take. Get the whole virus and not just the s protein, but would prefer to catch it, as to train the mucosal membrane as well as the other pathways skipped by vaccination. Keep wondering how I live in the original epicenter and still haven't caught it yet.

My main point is the vaccines are not going to result in zero Covid and end this pandemic, but they are being pushed as such. Plus I like pointing out the bullshit in the narrative. No immunity, asymptomatic spreaders, pandemic of the unvaccinated. They've all dropped to the wayside already.

On the flip side, there are PLENTY of people that overestimate their immunological health and should get the vaccine for safety's sake. We are a nation that is in very poor shape.

I think the main point is also that anti-vax people believe the vaccines purpose is to eradicate COVID even though that's never been the intention (at least not what I have believed). It's always been to slow the spread and reduce transmission.

I literally posted an article of God King Fauci saying that the vax is going to eradicate the China Virus....and yet you still post drivel like this.

[SDHornet]

After having mandate for private employees, and mandate for health care workers, blocked by the courts, Biden has his mandate for fed contractors blocked by the courts.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/georgi ... ne-mandate

This one covers me.

I've said it before. You get the Novavax vaccine (pre made spike protein) and the Valneva vaccine (inactivated whole virus) here and many more will take the vaccine.

Of course I'm still baffled why we haven't had any push for people to lose the weight and get healthier. Shit, even if you struggle losing the weight, get out walking. Get that cardiorespiratory working.

The China Virus just exposed that Americans are fat and weak, but nah let just make everyone get a vax...that requires a booster ever X months to stay effective.

[SeattleGriz]

This one covers me.

I've said it before. You get the Novavax vaccine (pre made spike protein) and the Valneva vaccine (inactivated whole virus) here and many more will take the vaccine.

Of course I'm still baffled why we haven't had any push for people to lose the weight and get healthier. Shit, even if you struggle losing the weight, get out walking. Get that cardiorespiratory working.

The China Virus just exposed that Americans are fat and weak, but nah let just make everyone get a vax...that requires a booster ever X months to stay effective.

Years ago when I was a personal trainer, I would always perform a new client intake and eventually ask them to rate themselves on a scale from 1-10, with 1 being completely sedentary to 10 being world class. I can't tell you how many weak, lazy azzes would rate themselves an 8 when they were really a 2 or 3. We have been fat and weak for a LONG time.

[SeattleGriz]

Where's StOnge?

https://pubs.acs.org/doi/full/10.1021/a ... tt.1c03380

The importance of understanding SARS-CoV-2 evolution cannot be overlooked. Recent studies confirm that natural selection is the dominating mechanism of SARS-CoV-2 evolution, which favors mutations that strengthen viral infectivity. Here, we demonstrate that vaccine-breakthrough or antibody-resistant mutations provide a new mechanism of viral evolution. Specifically, vaccine-resistant mutation Y449S in the spike (S) protein receptor-binding domain, which occurred in co-mutations Y449S and N501Y, has reduced infectivity compared to that of the original SARS-CoV-2 but can disrupt existing antibodies that neutralize the virus. By tracking the evolutionary trajectories of vaccine-resistant mutations in more than 2.2 million SARS-CoV-2 genomes, we reveal that the occurrence and frequency of vaccine-resistant mutations correlate strongly with the vaccination rates in Europe and America.

Sounds just like what I was saying about putting "selection pressure" on a virus with a vaccine that will cause it to mutate specifically to evade the vaccines. Please tell me more about how the unvaccinated are the variant of concern factories.

The solution? The old style vaccine in which you got the whole inactivated virus and not just the portion that binds to your cells. The S Protein mutates way too much. Now the N protein is much more conserved, meaning it doesn't mutate much. Want to know why? Because if the Nucleocapsid contents change too much, the virus cannot replicate, as that is it's actual genetic code. Change it enough and it can't replicate and dies off - it can't make the proper proteins that will need to come back together to create a new virus.

But, as that is all we had, we should have limited them to those most vulnerable and worked on helping people who came down with COVID instead of sending them home to die and only then come back when they were past the point of no return. I know they sure kicked my mom out of the hospital as fast as they could to make room for money, er patients with Covid.

[SeattleGriz]

Also, pay attention to the stories as to why so many soccer and rugby players are hitting the turf with heart problems.

I'm already amazed at how many new theories have come to the forefront. Also shocked that nobody came up with these theories until today. Wonder why. Seems someone would have noticed them in the past.

[Ibanez]

I think the main point is also that anti-vax people believe the vaccines purpose is to eradicate COVID even though that's never been the intention (at least not what I have believed). It's always been to slow the spread and reduce transmission.

I literally posted an article of God King Fauci saying that the vax is going to eradicate the China Virus....and yet you still post drivel like this.

Fauci is hardly a God King and he's fallible. But I seriously don't believe anyone with common sense thought were were going to eradicate this. There have only been like 2 diseases ever to be eradicated. We don't have the track record here to say we can do it for a 3rd. I always assumed we'd slow the spread and it'd become something that we just deal with, like the Flu or Tucker Carlson.

[Ibanez]

This one covers me.

I've said it before. You get the Novavax vaccine (pre made spike protein) and the Valneva vaccine (inactivated whole virus) here and many more will take the vaccine.

Of course I'm still baffled why we haven't had any push for people to lose the weight and get healthier. Shit, even if you struggle losing the weight, get out walking. Get that cardiorespiratory working.

The China Virus just exposed that Americans are fat and weak, but nah let just make everyone get a vax...that requires a booster ever X months to stay effective.

We are. We're fat, weak and soft.

[AZGrizFan]

I literally posted an article of God King Fauci saying that the vax is going to eradicate the China Virus....and yet you still post drivel like this.

Fauci is hardly a God King and he's fallible. But I seriously don't believe anyone with common sense thought were were going to eradicate this. There have only been like 2 diseases ever to be eradicated. We don't have the track record here to say we can do it for a 3rd. I always assumed we'd slow the spread and it'd become something that we just deal with, like the Flu or Tucker Carlson.

So what you’re saying is Fauci has no common sense.

[Ibanez]

Fauci is hardly a God King and he's fallible. But I seriously don't believe anyone with common sense thought were were going to eradicate this. There have only been like 2 diseases ever to be eradicated. We don't have the track record here to say we can do it for a 3rd. I always assumed we'd slow the spread and it'd become something that we just deal with, like the Flu or Tucker Carlson.

So what you’re saying is Fauci has no common sense.

Perhaps. Fauci is a human and prone to mistakes, pride, etc....

[89Hen]

So what you’re saying is Fauci has no common sense.

Perhaps. Fauci is a human and prone to mistakes, pride, etc....

And lying and agendas and...

[SeattleGriz]

The China Virus just exposed that Americans are fat and weak, but nah let just make everyone get a vax...that requires a booster ever X months to stay effective.

We are. We're fat, weak and soft.

My son goes to school with a kid whose parents are both Russian. He was just telling my son how his dad called all the kids of today a bunch of pussies. He then proceeded to tell his son that back in the day in Chernobyl, they still went to school after the meltdown!

[Ibanez]

We are. We're fat, weak and soft.

My son goes to school with a kid whose parents are both Russian. He was just telling my son how his dad called all the kids of today a bunch of pussies. He then proceeded to tell his son that back in the day in Chernobyl, they still went to school after the meltdown!

Soviets strong!

[CAA Flagship]

Perhaps. Fauci is a human and prone to mistakes, pride, etc....

And lying and agendas and...

And corruption...

[UNI88]

And lying and agendas and...

And corruption...

Fauxi sounds a lot like Trump. BDK should love him.

[BDKJMU]

According to “I am the science”, if you’re hosting a Christmas gathering make sure you have everyone show their vax cards..and have yours ready to show to family if you’re going to one..

[SeattleGriz]

Natural immunity for the win. Another narrative shot down...although it has been down for quite some time.

This shows any mandate or vax pass without considering naturally aquired immunity is nothing but horse shit.

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101 ... 1.full.pdf

[BDKJMU]

Pfizer CEO saying you’re going to need a FOURTH shot. Translated: Pfizer needs to make billions more $$$$!
And who wants to they’ll eventually be calls for 5th shots, and 6th, and 7th. Never ending..

[UNI88]

Pfizer CEO saying you’re going to need a FOURTH shot. Translated: Pfizer needs to make billions more $$$$!
And who wants to they’ll eventually be calls for 5th shots, and 6th, and 7th. Never ending..

Rational people saw this coming months ago.

What do you have against capitalism? Why do you hate America?

[SeattleGriz]

Pfizer CEO saying you’re going to need a FOURTH shot. Translated: Pfizer needs to make billions more $$$$!
And who wants to they’ll eventually be calls for 5th shots, and 6th, and 7th. Never ending..

Rational people saw this coming months ago.

What do you have against capitalism? Why do you hate America?

How many rational people do we really have? I understand media influence, and maybe I am reading too many right wing sites, but I consistently see Karens recommending that those who are unvaccinated be ostracized. I honestly don't know anymore.

[kalm]

Pfizer CEO saying you’re going to need a FOURTH shot. Translated: Pfizer needs to make billions more $$$$!
And who wants to they’ll eventually be calls for 5th shots, and 6th, and 7th. Never ending..

Rational people saw this coming months ago.

What do you have against capitalism? Why do you hate America?

Yeah! ‘What are we supposed to do? Send everybody a free one?’!?!

[UNI88]

Rational people saw this coming months ago.

What do you have against capitalism? Why do you hate America?

How many rational people do we really have? I understand media influence, and maybe I am reading too many right wing sites, but I consistently see Karens recommending that those who are unvaccinated be ostracized. I honestly don't know anymore.

Well on this board alone, there's me, CID, Ibanez and Ganny.

And what about people like KAaron Rogers who talk about personal choice and then whine because they don't want to face the consequences of their choices.