Coronavirus COVID-19

[Winterborn]

Ah, the old emotional fallacy. Guess I can play that game too.



https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-n ... ne-n718381


COVID can be deadly.

A flu can be deadly.

A cold can be deadly.

Cancer can be deadly.

Slipping on the ice can be deadly.

Driving can be deadly.

Deer hunting can be deadly.

Skiing can be deadly.

Swimming can be deadly.

Cycling can be deadly.



Need I go on? The numbers say that somebody, somewhere will die from the most mundane thing. We can also die from old age. Outliers always exist. Deciding policy based on outliers is both stupid and foolhardy. So is deciding policy based on sob stories. Which apparently is where we are now at.

We know those things and avoid them. We also know how to treat them so that they are mostly not deadly or produce long term effects. EG: not a lot of people losing 9 months of work due to the flu. Or helmets save lives.

This is information regarding a new disease using a real life example of someone young and healthy.

Your reply seems rather…well…emotional?

But do we really avoid them? You talk about risk mitigation and yet when it comes to COVID, there are plenty of risk mitigations strategies out there for it, yet we treat or desire to treat it different.

The flu has been around for 1500 years. And since the late 1800's new strains have popped up every 10-50 years. Even with modern medicine and studying it for so long, deaths still occur.

Kayla Linton and her parents would disagree with you I bet. That is if she could. A healthy, athletic 17 year-old dies from the flu. Her parents and Kayla if she was around, would gladly take the 9 months of sickness I would think over the the alternative they had happen to them.

We have the entire genome of COVID mapped. We have been studying it for at least two years, we know who it targets and how it affects their bodies. We even have a vaccine and boosters for it. It is no longer new and the article, like much of the media today, likes to flirt with yellow journalism.

I am only as emotional as I get when I accidentally turn on Fox News or CNN and see the opinion they peddle as "news".

[kalm]

We know those things and avoid them. We also know how to treat them so that they are mostly not deadly or produce long term effects. EG: not a lot of people losing 9 months of work due to the flu. Or helmets save lives.

This is information regarding a new disease using a real life example of someone young and healthy.

Your reply seems rather…well…emotional?

But do we really avoid them? You talk about risk mitigation and yet when it comes to COVID, there are plenty of risk mitigations strategies out there for it, yet we treat or desire to treat it different.

The flu has been around for 1500 years. And since the late 1800's new strains have popped up every 10-50 years. Even with modern medicine and studying it for so long, deaths still occur.

Kayla Linton and her parents would disagree with you I bet. That is if she could. A healthy, athletic 17 year-old dies from the flu. Her parents and Kayla if she was around, would gladly take the 9 months of sickness I would think over the the alternative they had happen to them.

We have the entire genome of COVID mapped. We have been studying it for at least two years, we know who it targets and how it affects their bodies. We even have a vaccine and boosters for it. It is no longer new and the article, like much of the media today, likes to flirt with yellow journalism.

I am only as emotional as I get when I accidentally turn on Fox News or CNN and see the opinion they peddle as "news".

Yes…we avoid them. Sometimes when it’s too late. And many of them aren’t contagious either. They’re more of a choice.

I’m tired of Covid too but I’m not ready to declare we know all their is to know yet. That’s one of the underlying themes of the article. I want to know the whole story to inform my risk mitigation. Don’t you?

[BDKJMU]

From the ‘I am the science’ labcoat tyrant: Cancel your New Year’s Eve parties..

[SeattleGriz]

This guy is Faucis blood brother. Piece of shit.

https://redstate.com/jenvanlaar/2021/12 ... es-n496155

[UNI88]

This guy is Faucis blood brother. Piece of shit.

https://redstate.com/jenvanlaar/2021/12 ... es-n496155

From the China thread ...

Harvard Professor Lieber convicted on six counts of lying about his China connections and related tax charges. He could get up to five years, but will probably get six months. His Nobel dreams are out the window.

Every single university in this country with a science department worth a toot has at least one co-opted professor taking money from the CCP.

They aren’t going to have to do anything kinetic to us… they are just going to cultivate enough internal traitors with money - and when you start hearing apologists for China just follow the money, or your fave media outlet like this one right here in good ol DC:

https://freebeacon.com/media/ccp-paid-d ... ropaganda/

[Ivytalk]

This guy is Faucis blood brother. Piece of shit.

https://redstate.com/jenvanlaar/2021/12 ... es-n496155

Well, CS’s own Joel Osteen comes out of nowhere for this post.

[SeattleGriz]

This guy is Faucis blood brother. Piece of shit.

https://redstate.com/jenvanlaar/2021/12 ... es-n496155

Well, CS’s own Joel Osteen comes out of nowhere for this post.

Joel Osteen?

[Baldy]

After telling everyone to get out of his way, and claiming that he would defeat the virus during the campaign, Brandon quits.

[CID1990]

After telling everyone to get out of his way, and claiming that he would defeat the virus during the campaign, Brandon quits.

Presidenting is hard


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[BDKJMU]

U.S. CDC investigating nearly 70 cruise ships hit by COVID-19 cases
https://news.trust.org/item/20211227170451-66k33

Also reports in the last several days of cruise ships being denied port entries.

My question, why would people be on crusie ships now?

[Ivytalk]

Well, CS’s own Joel Osteen comes out of nowhere for this post.

Joel Osteen?

Yeah, the televangelist with the big teeth and the fat wallet.

[SeattleGriz]

Joel Osteen?

Yeah, the televangelist with the big teeth and the fat wallet.

I'm a Covid televangelist? I'm not making the connection.

[kalm]

Well at least the CDC’s new quarantine guidelines aren’t confusing.

[SeattleGriz]

Well at least the CDC’s new quarantine guidelines aren’t confusing.

Wonder how much pressure was put on Biden due to the winter surge in the north and a ton of workers in quarantine?

This has to be science at work!

[BDKJMU]

[SeattleGriz]

It's okay folks. The CDC has their best people on the case. Notice how the revision falls OUTSIDE of their 95% prediction interval.

[BDKJMU]

Yesterday Biden said to governors “Look, there is no federal solution. This gets solved at a state level.” Today he’s tweeting about a ‘federal plan’. WTF Brandon is so demented he literally can’t remember what he said the day before.. I mean, someone should be there to point out to him, “Sir, you can’t say that when you said the opposite yesterday.”

[SeattleGriz]

Yesterday Biden said to governors “Look, there is no federal solution. This gets solved at a state level.” Today he’s tweeting about a ‘federal plan’. WTF Brandon is so demented he literally can’t remember what he said the day before.. I mean, someone should be there to point out to him, “Sir, you can’t say that when you said the opposite yesterday.”

But it's not mean tweets, right?

[UNI88]

Trump supporters getting upset about lying is like Chandra Bahadur Dangi getting upset about short people.

[UNI88]

Yesterday Biden said to governors “Look, there is no federal solution. This gets solved at a state level.” Today he’s tweeting about a ‘federal plan’. WTF Brandon is so demented he literally can’t remember what he said the day before.. I mean, someone should be there to point out to him, “Sir, you can’t say that when you said the opposite yesterday.”

But it's not mean tweets, right?

Nope, it's just a 5th straight year of oscillating statements from the POTUS.

[kalm]

It's okay folks. The CDC has their best people on the case. Notice how the revision falls OUTSIDE of their 95% prediction interval.

But it’s still coming on strong, right? I mean WA just posted a record number of daily new cases. Or is that due to increased testing? Or Delta?

[SeattleGriz]

It's okay folks. The CDC has their best people on the case. Notice how the revision falls OUTSIDE of their 95% prediction interval.

But it’s still coming on strong, right? I mean WA just posted a record number of daily new cases. Or is that due to increased testing? Or Delta?

I assume it is coming on strong and should outcompete Delta as the predominant strain. Probably a little of both testing and it's gaining ground. By the way, Trump was labeled a murderer for saying we couldn't lock down forever, but here we are with Biden going yet again, with another Trump idea.

On some really good news, there are some that believe Omicron may be different enough, s protein wise, that it could end up "training" the immune system fully. That would be amazing and very helpful.

[CID1990]

Back when we all had to stay indoors…. except for special rules for social justice warriors -

https://hotair.com/john-s-2/2021/12/29/ ... er-n438265

Greenwald pretty much nails it. The “experts” have nobody but themselves to blame for pandemic skepticism


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[SeattleGriz]

To add to what Cid posted above, we now have the CDC coming out and saying a person could be PCR positive for up to 12 weeks after catching COVID. Must be the viral debris that many scientists mentioned.

Hmm, seems this would have helped stop the "asymptomatic spreader" bullshit much earlier. They knew this but didn't say a word, but now that Omicron has broken the Overton window, it's now okay to change your tune. How many people were fucked over by false positive PCR tests?

CDC's own Walensky:

The newly updated CDC guidelines don't require testing at the end of isolation because PCR tests can stay positive for up to 12 weeks, CDC Director Dr. Rochelle Walensky told "Good Morning America" Wednesday.

"So we would have people in isolation for a very long time if we were relying on PCRs," Walensky said.

https://abcnews.go.com/Health/live-upda ... n#81984630

[Baldy]

Back when we all had to stay indoors…. except for special rules for social justice warriors -

https://hotair.com/john-s-2/2021/12/29/ ... er-n438265

Greenwald pretty much nails it. The “experts” have nobody but themselves to blame for pandemic skepticism


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The continual red-pilling of Greenwald is the ultimate chef's kiss