The Official "Making America Great Again" Thread

[kalm]

Interesting opinion piece backed by some data, and I think fairly accurate. Republicans longing for an America that is gone and one that never really existed for many. Crisis periods in history are hard. Change is hard. But brighter days are likely ahead (probably after 2024).

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... UNnmqC1xCE

Couple of questions/considerations:

• What about the parallels between the Democrat response to losing the 2016 election (the first impeachment was an attempt to overturn the election) and the Republican response to losing the 2020 election? How will they likely compare to the Democrat response if they lose in 2022 and/or 2024?
• How does Republican/conservative yearning for the halcyon days of yore compare to Democrat/liberal yearning for an unreachable socialist utopia?

Too many opinion pieces paint Republicans/conservatives as bad or needing to wake up/evolve but fail to acknowledge similar discretions and issues on the Democrat/liberal side.

1). That’s a totally fair question.

2). The Democratic party is still very much a neo-liberal party. Further, I’m not sure even AOC is calling for a take over of the means of production lol. We probably could use a CS primer/agreement on exactly what labels mean. As in 1950’s and 60’s style “socialist” utopia of a stronger middle class, labor representation, far reaching infrastructure investment, affordable education, lower wealth gap etc.

And FTR, this all has room for conservative ideas too. But as this piece points out, it’s pretty tough when 2/3’s of the Republican Party view 2020 as illegitimate based on not just results but ideas. That’s kind of the point here.

3). Both parties need to wake the fuck up. I agree.

[UNI88]

Couple of questions/considerations:

• What about the parallels between the Democrat response to losing the 2016 election (the first impeachment was an attempt to overturn the election) and the Republican response to losing the 2020 election? How will they likely compare to the Democrat response if they lose in 2022 and/or 2024?
• How does Republican/conservative yearning for the halcyon days of yore compare to Democrat/liberal yearning for an unreachable socialist utopia?

Too many opinion pieces paint Republicans/conservatives as bad or needing to wake up/evolve but fail to acknowledge similar discretions and issues on the Democrat/liberal side.

1). That’s a totally fair question.

2). The Democratic party is still very much a neo-liberal party. Further, I’m not sure even AOC is calling for a take over of the means of production lol. We probably could use a CS primer/agreement on exactly what labels mean. As in 1950’s and 60’s style “socialist” utopia of a stronger middle class, labor representation, far reaching infrastructure investment, affordable education, lower wealth gap etc.

And FTR, this all has room for conservative ideas too. But as this piece points out, it’s pretty tough when 2/3’s of the Republican Party view 2020 as illegitimate based on not just results but ideas. That’s kind of the point here.

3). Both parties need to wake the fuck up. I agree.

Both parties want to return the the idealic 50's & 60's?

If AOChe and other Squatters don't want a take over of the means of production then they shouldn't belong to and support the DSA.

How much of the Democratic Party viewed 2016 as illegitimate "based on not just results but ideas"? How much of it will view 2022 and/or 2024 as illegitimate?

"Room for conservative ideas too?" Democratic leaders are as open to conservative ideas as Republican leaders are too liberal ideas. Has Biden restarted the pipeline? What about nuclear? Voter ID?

The parties are mirror fvcking images of each other but you keep trying to rationalize that the one you prefer isn't as bad as the other.

[kalm]

1). That’s a totally fair question.

2). The Democratic party is still very much a neo-liberal party. Further, I’m not sure even AOC is calling for a take over of the means of production lol. We probably could use a CS primer/agreement on exactly what labels mean. As in 1950’s and 60’s style “socialist” utopia of a stronger middle class, labor representation, far reaching infrastructure investment, affordable education, lower wealth gap etc.

And FTR, this all has room for conservative ideas too. But as this piece points out, it’s pretty tough when 2/3’s of the Republican Party view 2020 as illegitimate based on not just results but ideas. That’s kind of the point here.

3). Both parties need to wake the fuck up. I agree.

Both parties want to return the the idealic 50's & 60's?

If AOChe and other Squatters don't want a take over of the means of production then they shouldn't belong to and support the DSA.

How much of the Democratic Party viewed 2016 as illegitimate "based on not just results but ideas"? How much of it will view 2022 and/or 2024 as illegitimate?

"Room for conservative ideas too?" Democratic leaders are as open to conservative ideas as Republican leaders are too liberal ideas. Has Biden restarted the pipeline? What about nuclear? Voter ID?

The parties are mirror fvcking images of each other but you keep trying to rationalize that the one you prefer isn't as bad as the other.

You’re arguing with someone who mostly agrees with you on ideas including that both parties suck.

One sucks more than the other IMO and this article is about that one and their threats to democracy.

[AZGrizFan]

Both parties want to return the the idealic 50's & 60's?

If AOChe and other Squatters don't want a take over of the means of production then they shouldn't belong to and support the DSA.

How much of the Democratic Party viewed 2016 as illegitimate "based on not just results but ideas"? How much of it will view 2022 and/or 2024 as illegitimate?

"Room for conservative ideas too?" Democratic leaders are as open to conservative ideas as Republican leaders are too liberal ideas. Has Biden restarted the pipeline? What about nuclear? Voter ID?

The parties are mirror fvcking images of each other but you keep trying to rationalize that the one you prefer isn't as bad as the other.

You’re arguing with someone who mostly agrees with you on ideas including that both parties suck.

One sucks more than the other IMO and this article is about that one and their threats to democracy.

As opposed to the other one that literally wants, as a stated goal, to destroy the democracy.

[UNI88]

You’re arguing with someone who mostly agrees with you on ideas including that both parties suck.

One sucks more than the other IMO and this article is about that one and their threats to democracy.

As opposed to the other one that literally wants, as a stated goal, to destroy the democracy.

Point - AZ.

We have to destroy it in order to save it.

[SeattleGriz]

Found me a new razor.

[kalm]

As opposed to the other one that literally wants, as a stated goal, to destroy the democracy.

Point - AZ.

We have to destroy it in order to save it.

Who said that?

[BDKJMU]

What did they have? Something like 11 FBI agents in with 6 nutjobs? Totally pulled ng those numbers out my ass, so don't expect them to be accurate.

12 FBI informants. At one point, everyone bailed and it was FBI informants actively setting up meetings and recruiting people to turn out. FBI trained, funded, organized, and encouraged the kidnapping that attracted the handful of nutjobs it did.

2 are aquitted, and hung jury on 2.
https://apnews.com/article/whitmer-kidn ... 8a51f107fb

Classic case of a completely politically infested FBI seeking out some ‘white supremacists’ to create amd pin a crime to.

[SDHornet]

12 FBI informants. At one point, everyone bailed and it was FBI informants actively setting up meetings and recruiting people to turn out. FBI trained, funded, organized, and encouraged the kidnapping that attracted the handful of nutjobs it did.

2 are aquitted, and hung jury on 2.
https://apnews.com/article/whitmer-kidn ... 8a51f107fb

Classic case of a completely politically infested FBI seeking out some ‘white supremacists’ to create amd pin a crime to.

Epic FBI fail. A jury just told the FBI to fuck off which is a major credibility hit for them. Pretty comical when you think about it.

Same guy overseeing that FBI office is now in DC overseeing the J6 stuff. I'm sure it's just a coincidence.

[BDKJMU]

2 are aquitted, and hung jury on 2.
https://apnews.com/article/whitmer-kidn ... 8a51f107fb

Classic case of a completely politically infested FBI seeking out some ‘white supremacists’ to create amd pin a crime to.

Epic FBI fail. A jury just told the FBI to fuck off which is a major credibility hit for them. Pretty comical when you think about it.

Same guy overseeing that FBI office is now in DC overseeing the J6 stuff. I'm sure it's just a coincidence.

Federal Bureau of Instigation

[SDHornet]

Epic FBI fail. A jury just told the FBI to fuck off which is a major credibility hit for them. Pretty comical when you think about it.

Same guy overseeing that FBI office is now in DC overseeing the J6 stuff. I'm sure it's just a coincidence.

Federal Bureau of Instigation

But we're supposed to believe whatever the IC folks tell us or something.

[SeattleGriz]

Calling out Crenshaw is Ultra MAGA. Gabbard did a good job of not flinching.

[AZGrizFan]

Calling out Crenshaw is Ultra MAGA. Gabbard did a good job of not flinching.

He apparently likes his heroes to have two eyes.

[UNI88]

Calling out Crenshaw is Ultra MAGA. Gabbard did a good job of not flinching.

SG, you've been BDKed ...

Has Tucker ever put his life on the line for his country?

[Ibanez]

Calling out Crenshaw is Ultra MAGA. Gabbard did a good job of not flinching.

But but but It'S diFfEreNT

[UNI88]

Calling out Crenshaw is Ultra MAGA. Gabbard did a good job of not flinching.

He apparently likes his heroes to have two eyes.

Does Tucker Carlson even know what a hero is?

[kalm]

Your state may be bat shit crazy but it’s not Idaho level bat shit crazy.

There was a week when armed militias patrolled the streets with assault rifles in search of Black Lives Matter and antifa activists. Anti-maskers shut down a school board meeting, COVID-19 denialists harassed hospital workers, and bigots — some of them armed — harangued children at “Rainbow Squad” LGBTQ events at a local library.

“Every single day, I wake up and I do this debate in my head: ‘Do I move or do I stay?’” Keenan said, briefly breaking down in tears. “Every day. So I guess maybe that’s an indication of how hopeful I am.”


‘A Deep Desire To Dominate Without Mercy’

On Feb. 25, white nationalists stopped me from entering the third annual America First Political Action Conference in Orlando, Florida. No reporters allowed, they said. “Hey, the homosexual conference is that way,” quipped one attendee, a YouTuber arrested last year for attacking media during the insurrection.
Back at my hotel, I watched the AFPAC livestream, waiting to find out which GOP politicians would appear, lending the imprimatur of their office to this gathering of young “America First” fascists, who call themselves “groypers.”
Among the five Republican officials who spoke was McGeachin (pronounced “Ma-GEE-hin”), Idaho’s lieutenant governor. “Keep up the good work fighting for our country,” she told the crowd in a pre-recorded video. Other speakers at AFPAC then praised Adolf Hitler and called for Dr. Anthony Fauci to be hanged.
Idaho Lt. Gov. Janice McGeachin has routinely allied herself with some of the most extreme right-wing figures in America.
Idaho Lt. Gov. Janice McGeachin has routinely allied herself with some of the most extreme right-wing figures in America.

Foxx gave a fiery speech, too. “We must have a deep desire to dominate without mercy,” he howled. “And if you refuse to dominate, then America First will dominate you!”
Responding to backlash over her AFPAC appearance back in Boise, McGeachin admitted in an interview with KTVB that she’d “heard” of Foxx, and yes, had taken a photo with him. She then quickly pivoted to accusing the media of playing a game of “guilt by association.”
But she was less defensive three weeks later when she appeared on a far-right podcast, telling the hosts she was well aware of what AFPAC was all about, adding defiantly: “I’m not going to back off from the opportunity to talk to other conservatives across the country.”
This never-punch-right attitude has defined McGeachin’s chaotic tenure as Idaho’s lieutenant governor. Since her election in 2019, McGeachin — a former state representative who owns an Irish pub in Idaho Falls — has routinely allied herself with some of the most extreme right-wing figures in America and then, when pressed about those associations, has refused to apologize. (When I requested McGeachin comment for this story, she responded by posting a screenshot of my email on Twitter. “Sounds like unbiased journalism to me,” she wrote, adding a crying-laughing emoji.)
Her extremism has endeared her to the Idaho Freedom Foundation, a powerful dark money organization receiving bundles of donations from out-of-state billionaires. The group’s stated mission is “exposing, defeating, and replacing the state’s socialist public policies,” which in practice has meant pushing a vision of government so limited as to make Idaho the Wild West again.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/far-righ ... ycG1q7ytWA

[UNI88]

Your state may be bat shit crazy but it’s not Idaho level bat shit crazy.

There was a week when armed militias patrolled the streets with assault rifles in search of Black Lives Matter and antifa activists. Anti-maskers shut down a school board meeting, COVID-19 denialists harassed hospital workers, and bigots — some of them armed — harangued children at “Rainbow Squad” LGBTQ events at a local library.

“Every single day, I wake up and I do this debate in my head: ‘Do I move or do I stay?’” Keenan said, briefly breaking down in tears. “Every day. So I guess maybe that’s an indication of how hopeful I am.”

‘A Deep Desire To Dominate Without Mercy’

On Feb. 25, white nationalists stopped me from entering the third annual America First Political Action Conference in Orlando, Florida. No reporters allowed, they said. “Hey, the homosexual conference is that way,” quipped one attendee, a YouTuber arrested last year for attacking media during the insurrection.
Back at my hotel, I watched the AFPAC livestream, waiting to find out which GOP politicians would appear, lending the imprimatur of their office to this gathering of young “America First” fascists, who call themselves “groypers.”
Among the five Republican officials who spoke was McGeachin (pronounced “Ma-GEE-hin”), Idaho’s lieutenant governor. “Keep up the good work fighting for our country,” she told the crowd in a pre-recorded video. Other speakers at AFPAC then praised Adolf Hitler and called for Dr. Anthony Fauci to be hanged.
Idaho Lt. Gov. Janice McGeachin has routinely allied herself with some of the most extreme right-wing figures in America.
Idaho Lt. Gov. Janice McGeachin has routinely allied herself with some of the most extreme right-wing figures in America.

Foxx gave a fiery speech, too. “We must have a deep desire to dominate without mercy,” he howled. “And if you refuse to dominate, then America First will dominate you!”
Responding to backlash over her AFPAC appearance back in Boise, McGeachin admitted in an interview with KTVB that she’d “heard” of Foxx, and yes, had taken a photo with him. She then quickly pivoted to accusing the media of playing a game of “guilt by association.”
But she was less defensive three weeks later when she appeared on a far-right podcast, telling the hosts she was well aware of what AFPAC was all about, adding defiantly: “I’m not going to back off from the opportunity to talk to other conservatives across the country.”
This never-punch-right attitude has defined McGeachin’s chaotic tenure as Idaho’s lieutenant governor. Since her election in 2019, McGeachin — a former state representative who owns an Irish pub in Idaho Falls — has routinely allied herself with some of the most extreme right-wing figures in America and then, when pressed about those associations, has refused to apologize. (When I requested McGeachin comment for this story, she responded by posting a screenshot of my email on Twitter. “Sounds like unbiased journalism to me,” she wrote, adding a crying-laughing emoji.)
Her extremism has endeared her to the Idaho Freedom Foundation, a powerful dark money organization receiving bundles of donations from out-of-state billionaires. The group’s stated mission is “exposing, defeating, and replacing the state’s socialist public policies,” which in practice has meant pushing a vision of government so limited as to make Idaho the Wild West again.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/far-righ ... ycG1q7ytWA

She's right up there with Cawthorn, Gaetz, Greene, Boebert and company.

How likely is she to be the next governor?

[SeattleGriz]

Calling out Crenshaw is Ultra MAGA. Gabbard did a good job of not flinching.

But but but It'S diFfEreNT

I didn't get worked up when Pete Davidson called him a "porn guy" and certainly am not going to get worked up over Carlson pointing out Crenshaw acts like McCain.

Navy Seals generally will live through mean words. The Navy Seals I competed and trained with surely wouldn't have given two shits. In fact they loved me because I destroyed the Air Force Academy guys.

[UNI88]

But but but It'S diFfEreNT

I didn't get worked up when Pete Davidson called him a "porn guy" and certainly am not going to get worked up over Carlson pointing out Crenshaw acts like McCain.

Navy Seals generally will live through mean words. The Navy Seals I competed and trained with surely wouldn't have given two shits. In fact they loved me because I destroyed the Air Force Academy guys.

What would the Seals say about Tucker Swallowsemen?

[SeattleGriz]

I didn't get worked up when Pete Davidson called him a "porn guy" and certainly am not going to get worked up over Carlson pointing out Crenshaw acts like McCain.

Navy Seals generally will live through mean words. The Navy Seals I competed and trained with surely wouldn't have given two shits. In fact they loved me because I destroyed the Air Force Academy guys.

What would the Seals say about Tucker Swallowsemen?

I would say they probably wouldn't care, but if they did, they would be looking to dish out "physical and mental pain", which is what I delivered, and why they liked me so much.

[Ibanez]

But but but It'S diFfEreNT

I didn't get worked up when Pete Davidson called him a "porn guy" and certainly am not going to get worked up over Carlson pointing out Crenshaw acts like McCain.

Navy Seals generally will live through mean words. The Navy Seals I competed and trained with surely wouldn't have given two shits. In fact they loved me because I destroyed the Air Force Academy guys.

It's more the hypocrisy of a fucky fuck fuck face turd person like Carson

[UNI88]

What would the Seals say about Tucker Swallowsemen?

I would say they probably wouldn't care, but if they did, they would be looking to dish out "physical and mental pain", which is what I delivered, and why they liked me so much.

So you're into BDSM. Sounds like something a groomer might be into.

As Ibanez posted, the issue isn't whether you care what Davidson or Carlson said about Crenshaw, it's that Carlson did the same thing he criticized Davidson for. Carlson is a full of sh!t hypocrite, henceforth a hyposhit.

[SeattleGriz]

I would say they probably wouldn't care, but if they did, they would be looking to dish out "physical and mental pain", which is what I delivered, and why they liked me so much.

So you're into BDSM. Sounds like something a groomer might be into.

As Ibanez posted, the issue isn't whether you care what Davidson or Carlson said about Crenshaw, it's that Carlson did the same thing he criticized Davidson for. Carlson is a full of sh!t hypocrite, henceforth a hyposhit.

It's why I labeled him as Ultra MAGA.

[kalm]

A charter school district not performing well. Answer…use Covid relief to hire consultant.