Are they whiny little bitches if they’re right? No.BDKJMU wrote:Or how about the whiny little biches who say it isn’t lawfare?
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Are they whiny little bitches if they’re right? No.BDKJMU wrote:Or how about the whiny little biches who say it isn’t lawfare?
You didn't answer the question. Where/how EXACTLY do you derive Trump's net worth? What are you using to base your numbers?UNI88 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 30, 2023 9:09 pmSeattleGriz wrote:
How do you know Trump's net worth? Did he publish those for everyone to see?
My opinion is that he didn’t release them because they would show he’s not a billionaire. His fragile ego couldn’t handle that.
Why do you get your panties in a bunch when you think others lie/make shit up or ridicule people but cheer when trump does either? Why do you enable trump’s petty, vindictive hatred?
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But they’re whiney little bitches if they’re wrong.
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January 6 happened.BDKJMU wrote:But they’re whiney little bitches if they’re wrong.
Let’s see. 1st 76 years of Trump’s life zero criminal indictments. Then in his 77th year, not 1, not 2, not 3, but 4 criminal indictments, all in different jurisdictions, all by democrat prosecutors/AG, 2 of them uses novel legal theory, 2 of them the current POTUS using his chief law enforcement officer against his chief political rival in an election year, when he is the top presidential candidate of the opposition party. But there’s no lawfare involved here.
You've told us before, you're not a legal scholar and it's showing. The documents, which you have no idea as to what they are, should be a civil case and it's not.UNI88 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 31, 2023 3:26 amJanuary 6 happened.BDKJMU wrote: But they’re whiney little bitches if they’re wrong.
Let’s see. 1st 76 years of Trump’s life zero criminal indictments. Then in his 77th year, not 1, not 2, not 3, but 4 criminal indictments, all in different jurisdictions, all by democrat prosecutors/AG, 2 of them uses novel legal theory, 2 of them the current POTUS using his chief law enforcement officer against his chief political rival in an election year, when he is the top presidential candidate of the opposition party. But there’s no lawfare involved here.
Obstructing the return of classified documents happened.
Attempts to influence election results happened.
The NY case is a reach but the others happened despite MAGAt yahoo attempts to minimize the intent/severity. So one of the four might be described as lawfare.
Don’t do the crime if you can’t do the time.
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Thats because you didn't specify which net worth you wanted.SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Sun Dec 31, 2023 7:49 amYou've told us before, you're not a legal scholar and it's showing. The documents, which you have no idea as to what they are, should be a civil case and it's not.UNI88 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 31, 2023 3:26 am
January 6 happened.
Obstructing the return of classified documents happened.
Attempts to influence election results happened.
The NY case is a reach but the others happened despite MAGAt yahoo attempts to minimize the intent/severity. So one of the four might be described as lawfare.
Don’t do the crime if you can’t do the time.
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As you didn't answer my question about Trump's net worth, I'll say it. His tax returns were illegally leaked. Has a Presidents information ever been leaked like Trump's?
Then the person who leaked them should be charged. Has a modern presidential candidate ever refused to submit their returns?SeattleGriz wrote:You've told us before, you're not a legal scholar and it's showing. The documents, which you have no idea as to what they are, should be a civil case and it's not. I think he’s highly leveraged and the net value is less than a billion. That’s my opinion, no hard evidence needed. Don’t like my opinion, prove me wrong.UNI88 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 31, 2023 3:26 am
January 6 happened.
Obstructing the return of classified documents happened.
Attempts to influence election results happened.
The NY case is a reach but the others happened despite MAGAt yahoo attempts to minimize the intent/severity. So one of the four might be described as lawfare.
Don’t do the crime if you can’t do the time.
As you didn't answer my question about Trump's net worth, I'll say it. His tax returns were illegally leaked. Has a Presidents information ever been leaked like Trump's?
So is removing ckassified docs, esp when not POTUS. Biden, when in the Senate and as VP, literally took classified docs to his UPenn office, his beach house, and his Wilmington house (where he put them right next to his vette). Heck, there’s a former nat security advisor who literally took classified docs, stuffed them in his socks to smuggle them out of the Nat Archives, got caught, and didn’t get charged with what Trump is being charged with. Also the bulk of what Trump kept were letters addressed to him, which he claimed he was entitled to keep. We’ll see what happens in court if the case ever makes it to trial.UNI88 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 31, 2023 3:26 amJanuary 6 happened.BDKJMU wrote: But they’re whiney little bitches if they’re wrong.
Let’s see. 1st 76 years of Trump’s life zero criminal indictments. Then in his 77th year, not 1, not 2, not 3, but 4 criminal indictments, all in different jurisdictions, all by democrat prosecutors/AG, 2 of them uses novel legal theory, 2 of them the current POTUS using his chief law enforcement officer against his chief political rival in an election year, when he is the top presidential candidate of the opposition party. But there’s no lawfare involved here.
Obstructing the return of classified documents happened.
Attempts to influence election results happened.
The NY case is a reach but the others happened despite MAGAt yahoo attempts to minimize the intent/severity. So one of the four might be described as lawfare.
Don’t do the crime if you can’t do the time.
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..peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard..
Setting aside the docs case, if you don’t realize his actions leading up to and during J6 aren’t an attempted assault on our constitution there’s no helping you.BDKJMU wrote: ↑Sun Dec 31, 2023 2:08 pmSo is removing ckassified docs, esp when not POTUS. Biden, when in the Senate and as VP, literally took classified docs to his UPenn office, his beach house, and his Wilmington house (where he put them right next to his vette). Heck, there’s a former nat security advisor who literally took classified docs, stuffed them in his socks to smuggle them out of the Nat Archives, got caught, and didn’t get charged with what Trump is being charged with. Also the bulk of what Trump kept were letters addressed to him, which he claimed he was entitled to keep. We’ll see what happens in court if the case ever makes it to trial.UNI88 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 31, 2023 3:26 am
January 6 happened.
Obstructing the return of classified documents happened.
Attempts to influence election results happened.
The NY case is a reach but the others happened despite MAGAt yahoo attempts to minimize the intent/severity. So one of the four might be described as lawfare.
Don’t do the crime if you can’t do the time.
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In 2016 by the left, and also in 2020 by the left..
If you don’t think this is political motivated lawfare, and Trump would still be being charged the same if he wasn’t running for POTUS again, then I have some oceanfront property in AZ to sell you..![]()
The jackstraws in this thing are unreal as far as "be carefful what you ask for" - the Ds need their opponent to be Trump so they have to worry about him being found ineligible to run. Trump getting immunity from any thing he did wrong while in office could be really bad news for him since Biden then has a whole range of options for dealing with Trump without fear of the law, right up to sending him to Gitmo for waterboardingkalm wrote: ↑Sun Dec 31, 2023 3:42 pmSetting aside the docs case, if you don’t realize his actions leading up to and during J6 aren’t an attempted assault on our constitution there’s no helping you.BDKJMU wrote: ↑Sun Dec 31, 2023 2:08 pm
So is removing ckassified docs, esp when not POTUS. Biden, when in the Senate and as VP, literally took classified docs to his UPenn office, his beach house, and his Wilmington house (where he put them right next to his vette). Heck, there’s a former nat security advisor who literally took classified docs, stuffed them in his socks to smuggle them out of the Nat Archives, got caught, and didn’t get charged with what Trump is being charged with. Also the bulk of what Trump kept were letters addressed to him, which he claimed he was entitled to keep. We’ll see what happens in court if the case ever makes it to trial.
In 2016 by the left, and also in 2020 by the left..
If you don’t think this is political motivated lawfare, and Trump would still be being charged the same if he wasn’t running for POTUS again, then I have some oceanfront property in AZ to sell you..![]()
He only has procedural/stalling tactics left. Much of the information is quite public and Chesebro has obviously been singing. Wait until Rudy and Meadows start facing the Fed trial.
One man’s constitution is another’s lawfare I guess.
houndawg wrote: ↑Sun Dec 31, 2023 9:47 amThats because you didn't specify which net worth you wanted.SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Sun Dec 31, 2023 7:49 am
You've told us before, you're not a legal scholar and it's showing. The documents, which you have no idea as to what they are, should be a civil case and it's not.
As you didn't answer my question about Trump's net worth, I'll say it. His tax returns were illegally leaked. Has a Presidents information ever been leaked like Trump's?
Do you wish to know his net worth when he's looking to borrow money or when his taxes are due?![]()
UNI88 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 31, 2023 10:36 amThen the person who leaked them should be charged. Has a modern presidential candidate ever refused to submit their returns?SeattleGriz wrote:
You've told us before, you're not a legal scholar and it's showing. The documents, which you have no idea as to what they are, should be a civil case and it's not. I think he’s highly leveraged and the net value is less than a billion. That’s my opinion, no hard evidence needed. Don’t like my opinion, prove me wrong.
As you didn't answer my question about Trump's net worth, I'll say it. His tax returns were illegally leaked. Has a Presidents information ever been leaked like Trump's?
I’ve told you why trump’s defying a subpoena, lying to the courts and obstructing the return of classified documents is different than it was for previous presidents but you’ve ignored those parts of my posts because it doesn’t fit the MAGAt yahoo narrative. You can’t refute it so you resort to mischaracterizing the offense.
Inciting a seditious riot meant to stop the Constitutional transfer of power is a civil case?
Election fraud (fake electors, threats veiled as requests to “find” votes, trying to bully state officials into not certifying results) is a civil case?
These were serious offenses and the resulting charges are not lawfare or a witch hunt.
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Responses that = I got nothing:SeattleGriz wrote:UNI88 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 31, 2023 10:36 am Then the person who leaked them should be charged. Has a modern presidential candidate ever refused to submit their returns?
I’ve told you why trump’s defying a subpoena, lying to the courts and obstructing the return of classified documents is different than it was for previous presidents but you’ve ignored those parts of my posts because it doesn’t fit the MAGAt yahoo narrative. You can’t refute it so you resort to mischaracterizing the offense.
Inciting a seditious riot meant to stop the Constitutional transfer of power is a civil case?
Election fraud (fake electors, threats veiled as requests to “find” votes, trying to bully state officials into not certifying results) is a civil case?
These were serious offenses and the resulting charges are not lawfare or a witch hunt.
Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkHoly shit. Histrionics much?
Go throw yourself on that industrial fainting couch of yours and come back less frothing at the mouth.
You hate Trump more than you love anything else. You're a broken record. All are true.
Did biden or anyone else accused of taking classified documents go to the lengths that trump did to keep them (defied a subpoena, lied to the courts, obstructed their return, etc.)?BDKJMU wrote: ↑Sun Dec 31, 2023 2:08 pmSo is removing ckassified docs, esp when not POTUS. Biden, when in the Senate and as VP, literally took classified docs to his UPenn office, his beach house, and his Wilmington house (where he put them right next to his vette). Heck, there’s a former nat security advisor who literally took classified docs, stuffed them in his socks to smuggle them out of the Nat Archives, got caught, and didn’t get charged with what Trump is being charged with. Also the bulk of what Trump kept were letters addressed to him, which he claimed he was entitled to keep. We’ll see what happens in court if the case ever makes it to trial.UNI88 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 31, 2023 3:26 am
January 6 happened.
Obstructing the return of classified documents happened.
Attempts to influence election results happened.
The NY case is a reach but the others happened despite MAGAt yahoo attempts to minimize the intent/severity. So one of the four might be described as lawfare.
Don’t do the crime if you can’t do the time.
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In 2016 by the left, and also in 2020 by the left..
If you don’t think this is political motivated lawfare, and Trump would still be being charged the same if he wasn’t running for POTUS again, then I have some oceanfront property in AZ to sell you..![]()
Does stuffing classified documents in your socks and pants to sneak them out of the national archives, and later lying to investigators about it, not count? Pled guilty to a misdemeanor.UNI88 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 31, 2023 6:17 pmDid biden or anyone else accused of taking classified documents go to the lengths that trump did to keep them (defied a subpoena, lied to the courts, obstructed their return, etc.)?BDKJMU wrote: ↑Sun Dec 31, 2023 2:08 pm
So is removing ckassified docs, esp when not POTUS. Biden, when in the Senate and as VP, literally took classified docs to his UPenn office, his beach house, and his Wilmington house (where he put them right next to his vette). Heck, there’s a former nat security advisor who literally took classified docs, stuffed them in his socks to smuggle them out of the Nat Archives, got caught, and didn’t get charged with what Trump is being charged with. Also the bulk of what Trump kept were letters addressed to him, which he claimed he was entitled to keep. We’ll see what happens in court if the case ever makes it to trial.
In 2016 by the left, and also in 2020 by the left..
If you don’t think this is political motivated lawfare, and Trump would still be being charged the same if he wasn’t running for POTUS again, then I have some oceanfront property in AZ to sell you..![]()
FTR I think that too many people are loosy goosy with confidential documents and should be treated more harshly so that it becomes far less common. trump willingly and knowingly went beyond what others have done and his chickens have come home to roost.
The irony of trump thinking he can keep letters because they were "addressed to him" but that everything he did while President was an official duty and provides him with immunity. Is he schizophrenic?
..peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard..
You have no idea what Trump has and he doesn't. Stop embarrassing yourself. Fucking douchebag.UNI88 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 31, 2023 6:17 pmDid biden or anyone else accused of taking classified documents go to the lengths that trump did to keep them (defied a subpoena, lied to the courts, obstructed their return, etc.)?BDKJMU wrote: ↑Sun Dec 31, 2023 2:08 pm
So is removing ckassified docs, esp when not POTUS. Biden, when in the Senate and as VP, literally took classified docs to his UPenn office, his beach house, and his Wilmington house (where he put them right next to his vette). Heck, there’s a former nat security advisor who literally took classified docs, stuffed them in his socks to smuggle them out of the Nat Archives, got caught, and didn’t get charged with what Trump is being charged with. Also the bulk of what Trump kept were letters addressed to him, which he claimed he was entitled to keep. We’ll see what happens in court if the case ever makes it to trial.
In 2016 by the left, and also in 2020 by the left..
If you don’t think this is political motivated lawfare, and Trump would still be being charged the same if he wasn’t running for POTUS again, then I have some oceanfront property in AZ to sell you..![]()
FTR I think that too many people are loosy goosy with confidential documents and should be treated more harshly so that it becomes far less common. trump willingly and knowingly went beyond what others have done and his chickens have come home to roost.
The irony of trump thinking he can keep letters because they were "addressed to him" but that everything he did while President was an official duty and provides him with immunity. Is he schizophrenic?
I'm fine with throwing trump and sandy berger's body in jail. berger's sentence should have been a felony as well.BDKJMU wrote: ↑Sun Dec 31, 2023 7:22 pmDoes stuffing classified documents in your socks and pants to sneak them out of the national archives, and later lying to investigators about it, not count? Pled guilty to a misdemeanor.UNI88 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 31, 2023 6:17 pm
Did biden or anyone else accused of taking classified documents go to the lengths that trump did to keep them (defied a subpoena, lied to the courts, obstructed their return, etc.)?
FTR I think that too many people are loosy goosy with confidential documents and should be treated more harshly so that it becomes far less common. trump willingly and knowingly went beyond what others have done and his chickens have come home to roost.
The irony of trump thinking he can keep letters because they were "addressed to him" but that everything he did while President was an official duty and provides him with immunity. Is he schizophrenic?
Remember that avatar bet we had on Ukraine. I'm thinking this might be the one ...SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Sun Dec 31, 2023 7:47 pmYou have no idea what Trump has and he doesn't. Stop embarrassing yourself. Fucking douchebag.UNI88 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 31, 2023 6:17 pm
Did biden or anyone else accused of taking classified documents go to the lengths that trump did to keep them (defied a subpoena, lied to the courts, obstructed their return, etc.)?
FTR I think that too many people are loosy goosy with confidential documents and should be treated more harshly so that it becomes far less common. trump willingly and knowingly went beyond what others have done and his chickens have come home to roost.
The irony of trump thinking he can keep letters because they were "addressed to him" but that everything he did while President was an official duty and provides him with immunity. Is he schizophrenic?
I like it!UNI88 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 31, 2023 8:47 pmRemember that avatar bet we had on Ukraine. I'm thinking this might be the one ...SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Sun Dec 31, 2023 7:47 pm
You have no idea what Trump has and he doesn't. Stop embarrassing yourself. Fucking douchebag.
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Would you like some assistance hobbling to the fainting couch? You appear to have taken the vapors....SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Sun Dec 31, 2023 7:47 pmYou have no idea what Trump has and he doesn't. Stop embarrassing yourself. Fucking douchebag.UNI88 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 31, 2023 6:17 pm
Did biden or anyone else accused of taking classified documents go to the lengths that trump did to keep them (defied a subpoena, lied to the courts, obstructed their return, etc.)?
FTR I think that too many people are loosy goosy with confidential documents and should be treated more harshly so that it becomes far less common. trump willingly and knowingly went beyond what others have done and his chickens have come home to roost.
The irony of trump thinking he can keep letters because they were "addressed to him" but that everything he did while President was an official duty and provides him with immunity. Is he schizophrenic?
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