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Of Hungary and Project 2025….

It’s really not about the candidates and transient policies as it is about ideas. We were the first country in human history founded on an idea rather than religion or monarchy. This is the absolute core issue of this election. Neo-conservatism desperately clinging to the past. William F Buckley’s definition:

‘A conservative is someone who sits athwart history yelling STOP’.
“On July 2, Kevin Roberts, president of the Heritage Foundation, went onto Bannon’s webcast War Room to hearten Bannon’s right-wing followers after Bannon’s incarceration. Former representative Dave Brat (R-VA) was sitting in for Bannon and conducted the interview.

“[W]e are going to win,” Roberts told them. “We're in the process of taking this country back…. We ought to be really encouraged by what happened yesterday. And in spite of all of the injustice, which, of course, friends and audience of this show, of our friend Steve know, we are going to prevail.”

“That Supreme Court ruling yesterday on immunity is vital, and it's vital for a lot of reasons,” Roberts said, adding that the nation needs a strong leader because “the radical left…has taken over our institutions.” “[W]e are in the process of the second American Revolution,” he said, “which will remain bloodless if the left allows it to be.”

Roberts took over the presidency of the Heritage Foundation in 2021, and he shifted it from a conservative think tank to an organization devoted to “institutionalizing Trumpism.” Central to that project for Roberts has been working to bring the policies of Hungary’s president Viktor Orbán, a close ally of Russia’s president Vladimir Putin, to the United States.

In 2023, Roberts brought the Heritage Foundation into a formal partnership with Hungary’s Danube Institute, a think tank overseen by a foundation that is directly funded by the Hungarian government; as journalist Casey Michel reported, it is, “for all intents and purposes, a state-funded front for pushing pro-Orbán rhetoric.” The Danube Institute has given grants to far-right figures in the U.S., and, Michel noted in March, “we have no idea how much funding may be flowing directly from Orbán’s regime to the Heritage Foundation.” Roberts has called modern Hungary “not just a model for conservative statecraft but the model.”

Orbán has been open about his determination to overthrow the concept of western democracy and replace it with what he has, on different occasions, called “illiberal democracy” or “Christian democracy.” He wants to replace the multiculturalism at the heart of democracy with Christian culture, stop the immigration that he believes undermines Hungarian culture, and reject “adaptable family models” in favor of “the Christian family model.” He is moving Hungary away from the stabilizing international systems supported by the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO).

No matter what he calls it, Orbán’s model is not democracy at all. As soon as he retook office in 2010, he began to establish control over the media, cracking down on those critical of his far-right political party, Fidesz, and rewarding those who toed the party line. In 2012 his supporters rewrote the country’s constitution to strengthen his hand, and extreme gerrymandering gave his party more power while changes to election rules benefited his campaigns. Increasingly, he used the power of the state to concentrate wealth among his cronies, and he reworked the country’s judicial system and civil service system to stack it with his loyalists, who attacked immigrants, women, and the rights of LGBTQ+ individuals. While Hungary still holds elections, state control of the media and the apparatus of voting means that it is impossible for the people of Hungary to remove him from power.

Trump supporters have long admired Orbán’s nationalism and centering of Christianity, while the fact that Hungary continues to have elections enables them to pretend that the country remains a democracy.

The tight cooperation between Heritage and Orbán illuminates Project 2025, the blueprint for a new kind of government dictated by Trump or a Trump-like figure. In January 2024, Roberts told Lulu Garcia-Navarro of the New York Times that Project 2025 was designed to jump-start a right-wing takeover of the government. “[T]he Trump administration, with the best of intentions, simply got a slow start,” Roberts said. “And Heritage and our allies in Project 2025 believe that must never be repeated.”

Project 2025 stands on four principles that it says the country must embrace: the U.S. must “[r]estore the family as the centerpiece of American life and protect our children”; “[d]ismantle the administrative state and return self-governance to the American people”; “[d]efend our nation’s sovereignty, borders, and bounty against global threats”; and “[s]ecure our God-given individual rights to live freely—what our Constitution calls ‘the Blessings of Liberty.’”
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I know nothing about it (except the parts I don’t like that may cost me votes).

I don’t know who’s behind it (except for my ex-staffers who are running it and the dark money friends of mine who are funding it).

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Whether you're libertarian, conservative, or liberal...people need to realize these people don't care about free markets or fairness. They want to rig the game for themselves. People like Peter Thiel that think you can't have freedom and democracy. They need to go down.
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Pwns wrote: Sat Jul 06, 2024 7:34 pm Whether you're libertarian, conservative, or liberal...people need to realize these people don't care about free markets or fairness. They want to rig the game for themselves. People like Peter Thiel that think you can't have freedom and democracy. They need to go down.
Yep. And their willing foot soldiers implying or downright threatening violence if we don’t comply.



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Pwns wrote: Sat Jul 06, 2024 7:34 pm Whether you're libertarian, conservative, or liberal...people need to realize these people don't care about free markets or fairness. They want to rig the game for themselves. People like Peter Thiel that think you can't have freedom and democracy. They need to go down.
They rigged the game for themselves with Citizens United as was noted here and generally scoffed at. This is the chickens coming home to roost.

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houndawg wrote: Sun Jul 07, 2024 5:05 am
Pwns wrote: Sat Jul 06, 2024 7:34 pm Whether you're libertarian, conservative, or liberal...people need to realize these people don't care about free markets or fairness. They want to rig the game for themselves. People like Peter Thiel that think you can't have freedom and democracy. They need to go down.
They rigged the game for themselves with Citizens United as was noted here and generally scoffed at. This is the chickens coming home to roost.

We get the government we deserve
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kalm wrote: Sun Jul 07, 2024 5:34 am
houndawg wrote: Sun Jul 07, 2024 5:05 am
They rigged the game for themselves with Citizens United as was noted here and generally scoffed at. This is the chickens coming home to roost.

We get the government we deserve
:nod:
You two bellyache about Citizens United like CH does about the 4th estate.
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UNI88 wrote: Sun Jul 07, 2024 8:33 am
kalm wrote: Sun Jul 07, 2024 5:34 am

:nod:
You two bellyache about Citizens United like CH does about the 4th estate.
I had never heard of Project 25 until reading it here
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kalm wrote: Sat Jul 06, 2024 7:41 pm
Pwns wrote: Sat Jul 06, 2024 7:34 pm Whether you're libertarian, conservative, or liberal...people need to realize these people don't care about free markets or fairness. They want to rig the game for themselves. People like Peter Thiel that think you can't have freedom and democracy. They need to go down.
Yep. And their willing foot soldiers implying or downright threatening violence if we don’t comply.
What a FAKE tweet response (the guy Masterson looks like a whiny little lib bitch). Robinson didn’t say ‘Liberals and leftists need to be killed.” He said “some people need to be killed” and that is true if he was referring to violent criminals/murderers, but you can’t tell in that edited clip.
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BDKJMU wrote: Sun Jul 07, 2024 9:14 am
kalm wrote: Sat Jul 06, 2024 7:41 pm

Yep. And their willing foot soldiers implying or downright threatening violence if we don’t comply.
What a FAKE tweet response (the guy Masterson looks like a whiny little lib bitch). Robinson didn’t say ‘Liberals and leftists need to be killed.” He said “some people need to be killed” and that is true if he was referring to violent criminals/murderers, but you can’t tell in that edited clip.
I watched the whole clip and it’s not something any sane person would say. Not to mention a gubernatorial candidate. He even has a sorry, not sorry moment.

Masterson is a comedian who attends, joins in, and videos conk rallies and absolutely owns these types. You wouldn’t like him. :lol:
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UNI88 wrote: Sun Jul 07, 2024 8:33 am
kalm wrote: Sun Jul 07, 2024 5:34 am

:nod:
You two bellyache about Citizens United like CH does about the 4th estate.
Well we did try to warn and we’re proven right so… :kisswink:
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BDKJMU wrote: Sun Jul 07, 2024 9:14 am
kalm wrote: Sat Jul 06, 2024 7:41 pm
Yep. And their willing foot soldiers implying or downright threatening violence if we don’t comply.
What a FAKE tweet response (the guy Masterson looks like a whiny little lib bitch). Robinson didn’t say ‘Liberals and leftists need to be killed.” He said “some people need to be killed” and that is true if he was referring to violent criminals/murderers, but you can’t tell in that edited clip.
Let's start with the violent criminals who stormed the Capitol on January 6.

How are we going to do it? Lethal injection, electric chair, hanging, firing squad? Will the executions be televised?
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kalm wrote: Sun Jul 07, 2024 9:25 am
UNI88 wrote: Sun Jul 07, 2024 8:33 am

You two bellyache about Citizens United like CH does about the 4th estate.
Well we did try to warn and we’re proven right so… :kisswink:
:nod:

...just like with 2016 with Bernie. :coffee:


just sayin'...
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houndawg wrote: Sun Jul 07, 2024 1:53 pm
kalm wrote: Sun Jul 07, 2024 9:25 am

Well we did try to warn and we’re proven right so… :kisswink:
:nod:

...just like with 2016 with Bernie. :coffee:
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kalm wrote: Sun Jul 07, 2024 1:59 pm
houndawg wrote: Sun Jul 07, 2024 1:53 pm

:nod:

...just like with 2016 with Bernie. :coffee:
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BDKJMU wrote: Sun Jul 07, 2024 9:14 am
kalm wrote: Sat Jul 06, 2024 7:41 pm

Yep. And their willing foot soldiers implying or downright threatening violence if we don’t comply.
What a FAKE tweet response (the guy Masterson looks like a whiny little lib bitch). Robinson didn’t say ‘Liberals and leftists need to be killed.” He said “some people need to be killed” and that is true if he was referring to violent criminals/murderers, but you can’t tell in that edited clip.
This Project 25 thing is a bunch of liberal bull shit err Hyperbole as per GF phrase :lol:

Kalm, as an operative, is obligated to spread this crap
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Caribbean Hen wrote: Tue Jul 09, 2024 11:52 am
BDKJMU wrote: Sun Jul 07, 2024 9:14 am
What a FAKE tweet response (the guy Masterson looks like a whiny little lib bitch). Robinson didn’t say ‘Liberals and leftists need to be killed.” He said “some people need to be killed” and that is true if he was referring to violent criminals/murderers, but you can’t tell in that edited clip.
This Project 25 thing is a bunch of liberal bull shit err Hyperbole as per GF phrase :lol:

Kalm, as an operative, is obligated to spread this crap
Hoax? No. Liberal bullshit? No. Hyperbole? Maybe a little but trump definitely has connections to Project 2025 and now that they might hurt him in an election he and his sycophants are trying to distance him from them anyway they can.

Project 2025
Building now for a conservative victory through policy, personnel, and training.

It is not enough for conservatives to win elections. If we are going to rescue the country from the grip of the radical Left, we need both a governing agenda and the right people in place, ready to carry this agenda out on Day One of the next conservative Administration.

This is the goal of the 2025 Presidential Transition Project. The project will build on four pillars that will, collectively, pave the way for an effective conservative Administration.
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UNI88 wrote: Mon Jul 08, 2024 12:16 pm How many of these authors/editors that trump has "nothing to do with " were nominated to positions in Trump’s administration or transition team:
- Rick Dearborn
- Russ Vought
- Donald Devine
- Dennis Dean Kirk
- Paul Dans
- Christopher Miller
- Ken Cuccinelli
- Kiron K. Skinner
- Dustin J. Carmack
- Mora Namdar
- Mike Gonzalez
- Max Primorac
- Daren Bakst
- Lindsey M. Burke
- Bernard L. McNamee
- Mandy M. Gunasekara
- Roger Severino
- Benjamin S. Carson, Sr., MD
- William Perry Pendley
- Gene Hamilton
- Jonathan Berry
- Diana Furchtgott-Roth
- Brooks D. Tucker
- Thomas F. Gilman
- William L. Walton
- Stephen Moore
- David R. Burton
- Veronique de Rugy
- Jennifer Hazelton
- Paul Winfree
- Karen Kerrigan
- Peter Navarro
- Kent Lassman
- David R. Burton
- Robert Bowes
- Brendan Carr
- Hans A. von Spakovsky
- Adam Candeub

If you guessed 31 of 38 (or 81%), you are correct.
CH, as an operative, is obligated to deflect attention from this crap.

You be you and keep blowing smoke, deflecting and spreading fake news, all while accusing others of being the ones doing it.
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UNI88 wrote: Tue Jul 09, 2024 12:05 pm
Caribbean Hen wrote: Tue Jul 09, 2024 11:52 am

This Project 25 thing is a bunch of liberal bull shit err Hyperbole as per GF phrase :lol:

Kalm, as an operative, is obligated to spread this crap
Hoax? No. Liberal bullshit? No. Hyperbole? Maybe a little but trump definitely has connections to Project 2025 and now that they might hurt him in an election he and his sycophants are trying to distance him from them anyway they can.

Project 2025
Building now for a conservative victory through policy, personnel, and training.

It is not enough for conservatives to win elections. If we are going to rescue the country from the grip of the radical Left, we need both a governing agenda and the right people in place, ready to carry this agenda out on Day One of the next conservative Administration.

This is the goal of the 2025 Presidential Transition Project. The project will build on four pillars that will, collectively, pave the way for an effective conservative Administration.
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UNI88 wrote: Mon Jul 08, 2024 12:16 pm How many of these authors/editors that trump has "nothing to do with " were nominated to positions in Trump’s administration or transition team:
- Rick Dearborn
- Russ Vought
- Donald Devine
- Dennis Dean Kirk
- Paul Dans
- Christopher Miller
- Ken Cuccinelli
- Kiron K. Skinner
- Dustin J. Carmack
- Mora Namdar
- Mike Gonzalez
- Max Primorac
- Daren Bakst
- Lindsey M. Burke
- Bernard L. McNamee
- Mandy M. Gunasekara
- Roger Severino
- Benjamin S. Carson, Sr., MD
- William Perry Pendley
- Gene Hamilton
- Jonathan Berry
- Diana Furchtgott-Roth
- Brooks D. Tucker
- Thomas F. Gilman
- William L. Walton
- Stephen Moore
- David R. Burton
- Veronique de Rugy
- Jennifer Hazelton
- Paul Winfree
- Karen Kerrigan
- Peter Navarro
- Kent Lassman
- David R. Burton
- Robert Bowes
- Brendan Carr
- Hans A. von Spakovsky
- Adam Candeub

If you guessed 31 of 38 (or 81%), you are correct.
CH, as an operative, is obligated to deflect attention from this crap.

You be you and keep blowing smoke, deflecting and spreading fake news, all while accusing others of being the ones doing it.
by which they mean, "impose minority rule" :coffee:
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UNI88 wrote: Tue Jul 09, 2024 12:05 pm
Caribbean Hen wrote: Tue Jul 09, 2024 11:52 am

This Project 25 thing is a bunch of liberal bull shit err Hyperbole as per GF phrase :lol:

Kalm, as an operative, is obligated to spread this crap
Hoax? No. Liberal bullshit? No. Hyperbole? Maybe a little but trump definitely has connections to Project 2025 and now that they might hurt him in an election he and his sycophants are trying to distance him from them anyway they can.

Project 2025
Building now for a conservative victory through policy, personnel, and training.

It is not enough for conservatives to win elections. If we are going to rescue the country from the grip of the radical Left, we need both a governing agenda and the right people in place, ready to carry this agenda out on Day One of the next conservative Administration.

This is the goal of the 2025 Presidential Transition Project. The project will build on four pillars that will, collectively, pave the way for an effective conservative Administration.
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UNI88 wrote: Mon Jul 08, 2024 12:16 pm How many of these authors/editors that trump has "nothing to do with " were nominated to positions in Trump’s administration or transition team:
- Rick Dearborn
- Russ Vought
- Donald Devine
- Dennis Dean Kirk
- Paul Dans
- Christopher Miller
- Ken Cuccinelli
- Kiron K. Skinner
- Dustin J. Carmack
- Mora Namdar
- Mike Gonzalez
- Max Primorac
- Daren Bakst
- Lindsey M. Burke
- Bernard L. McNamee
- Mandy M. Gunasekara
- Roger Severino
- Benjamin S. Carson, Sr., MD
- William Perry Pendley
- Gene Hamilton
- Jonathan Berry
- Diana Furchtgott-Roth
- Brooks D. Tucker
- Thomas F. Gilman
- William L. Walton
- Stephen Moore
- David R. Burton
- Veronique de Rugy
- Jennifer Hazelton
- Paul Winfree
- Karen Kerrigan
- Peter Navarro
- Kent Lassman
- David R. Burton
- Robert Bowes
- Brendan Carr
- Hans A. von Spakovsky
- Adam Candeub

If you guessed 31 of 38 (or 81%), you are correct.
CH, as an operative, is obligated to deflect attention from this crap.

You be you and keep blowing smoke, deflecting and spreading fake news, all while accusing others of being the ones doing it.
Man, I don’t get paid enough for this shit.
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kalm wrote: Sun Jul 07, 2024 5:34 am :nod:
You two bellyache about Citizens United like CH does about the 4th estate.
They’d be considered smart in Moldova if they would just immigrate there. But it’s better in America, all the effeminate histrionics aside.


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CID1990 wrote: Tue Jul 09, 2024 6:32 pm
UNI88 wrote:
You two bellyache about Citizens United like CH does about the 4th estate.
They’d be considered smart in Moldova if they would just immigrate there. But it’s better in America, all the effeminate histrionics aside.


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Caribbean Hen wrote: Sun Jul 07, 2024 9:05 am
UNI88 wrote: Sun Jul 07, 2024 8:33 am

You two bellyache about Citizens United like CH does about the 4th estate.
I had never heard of Project 25 until reading it here
No shit. This is right up there with all the other blueanon conspiracies you used to hear about back when X was Twitter.
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CID1990 wrote: Tue Jul 09, 2024 6:32 pm
UNI88 wrote:
You two bellyache about Citizens United like CH does about the 4th estate.
They’d be considered smart in Moldova if they would just immigrate there. But it’s better in America, all the effeminate histrionics aside.


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Looks like Houndy is attempting to convince kalm to emigrate to Elbonia ...

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Does he realize the primary is over and he doesn’t have to pander to the idiot base? Oh wait…

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kalm wrote: Sun Jul 07, 2024 9:23 am
BDKJMU wrote: Sun Jul 07, 2024 9:14 am
What a FAKE tweet response (the guy Masterson looks like a whiny little lib bitch). Robinson didn’t say ‘Liberals and leftists need to be killed.” He said “some people need to be killed” and that is true if he was referring to violent criminals/murderers, but you can’t tell in that edited clip.
I watched the whole clip and it’s not something any sane person would say. Not to mention a gubernatorial candidate. He even has a sorry, not sorry moment.

Masterson is a comedian who attends, joins in, and videos conk rallies and absolutely owns these types. You wouldn’t like him. :lol:
Which is edited.
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