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SeattleGriz wrote: Sat Aug 24, 2024 6:12 pm
UNI88 wrote: Sat Aug 24, 2024 5:27 pm

Sasse's quid pro quo with deconkis was "sleazy" but rfk jr's with trump wasn't? Your standard of determining what is and isn't okay is transparent: anything trump does is good, anything trump's opponents do is bad. Doesn't matter if they do the same or similar things. Actual right and wrong isn't a factor. The only thing that matters is that trump's words and actions are good and should be defended using any means necessary.

You never said harris not negotiating was a threat to democracy but you implied it.

Jebus, even your anatomically correct trump dolls are bullshit. Here's a photo you can use to build a truly anatomically correct version:
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Kennedy is a major representative of millions of people, Sasse isnt. The fact RFK is able to represent his voters within Trump's policy because he was able to negotiate, is a true victory for Americans.

I didn't imply shit. Go back and reread chief.

Can't even leave Trump out of your reply. Get help.

Keep digging bro.
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UNI88 wrote: Sat Aug 24, 2024 8:38 am
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When 16+ former trump administration officials oppose his reelection should probably listen to them too!

'Unprecedented' and 'stunning' number of Trump administration alums oppose his reelection
A minimum of 16 Trump administration veterans have sharply criticized the ex-president, with terms such as "threat to democracy," "erratic," "delusional" and "narcissistic."
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“I don’t think we’ve seen anything like this, certainly not in the last 100 years,” said Lindsay Chervinsky, a senior fellow at the Center for Presidential History at Southern Methodist University.
16 out of hundreds.

Actually meant to post this in the memes thread along with the other 4 memes I posted at the same time on this thread that I moved to the memes thread.
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kalm wrote: Sat Aug 24, 2024 6:05 pm
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Another one I moved to the memes thread. I got on a roll on the wrong thread. Maybe I was drinking lol..
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Caribbean Hen wrote: Sat Aug 24, 2024 5:41 pm Kennedy Jr is probably going to be dead soon

The truth can get you killed

He sure told the truth about The Ukraine fiasco….
Yep this worries the Deep State even more.
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..peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard..
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BDKJMU wrote: Sat Aug 24, 2024 7:00 pm
UNI88 wrote: Sat Aug 24, 2024 8:38 am
When 16+ former trump administration officials oppose his reelection should probably listen to them too!

'Unprecedented' and 'stunning' number of Trump administration alums oppose his reelection
16 out of hundreds.

Actually meant to post this in the memes thread along with the other 4 memes I posted at the same time on this thread that I moved to the memes thread.
One, I would guess that there are more than 16.

Two, I would guess that 16+ is unprecedented in the modern era. Did Bush I, Carter or Ford see anything like it?

Listening to former trump staffers is just as if not more valid than listening to rfk jr.
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kalm wrote: Sat Aug 24, 2024 6:30 pm
SeattleGriz wrote: Sat Aug 24, 2024 6:12 pm
Kennedy is a major representative of millions of people, Sasse isnt. The fact RFK is able to represent his voters within Trump's policy because he was able to negotiate, is a true victory for Americans.

I didn't imply shit. Go back and reread chief.

Can't even leave Trump out of your reply. Get help.

Keep digging bro.
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He hasn't been the same since the worm ate his brain.

How is kennedy a "major representative of millions of people"? Who are these millions of voters that he represents? Has he been elected to an office that I'm unaware of? Have millions of people voted for him in the primaries?
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UNI88 wrote: Sat Aug 24, 2024 8:01 pm
kalm wrote: Sat Aug 24, 2024 6:30 pm

I saw Bobby speak at EWU in the late 90’s promoting the Riverkeepers which did outstanding work. Used to listen the Ring of Fire radio show with Bobby and Mike Pappantonio.

Something happened to him. Sad.

In another week, you’ll all be saving rivers from pollution, supporting the repeal of Citizens United, and advocating for the Feds to regulate hedge fund and foreign investors parking their money in residential real estate like Bobby is.

Welcome to the far left homies! Haha!
He hasn't been the same since the worm ate his brain.

How is kennedy a "major representative of millions of people"? Who are these millions of voters that he represents? Has he been elected to an office that I'm unaware of? Have millions of people voted for him in the primaries?
TDS just might usher Socialism on a major scale into the country …. who would’ve guessed it 10 years ago
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Re: Trump vs Harris

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Caribbean Hen wrote: Sun Aug 25, 2024 5:40 am
UNI88 wrote: Sat Aug 24, 2024 8:01 pm

He hasn't been the same since the worm ate his brain.

How is kennedy a "major representative of millions of people"? Who are these millions of voters that he represents? Has he been elected to an office that I'm unaware of? Have millions of people voted for him in the primaries?
TDS just might usher Socialism on a major scale into the country …. who would’ve guessed it 10 years ago
Define socialism.

Were we a socialist country in the 1950’s? Does Volvo realize it’s headquartered in a socialist country today?
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kalm wrote: Sun Aug 25, 2024 7:10 am
Caribbean Hen wrote: Sun Aug 25, 2024 5:40 am

TDS just might usher Socialism on a major scale into the country …. who would’ve guessed it 10 years ago
Define socialism.

Were we a socialist country in the 1950’s? Does Volvo realize it’s headquartered in a socialist country today?
Silence from Kamela is an example…. It’s coming I just can’t tell you right now
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Caribbean Hen wrote: Sun Aug 25, 2024 7:47 am
kalm wrote: Sun Aug 25, 2024 7:10 am

Define socialism.

Were we a socialist country in the 1950’s? Does Volvo realize it’s headquartered in a socialist country today?
Silence from Kamela is an example…. It’s coming I just can’t tell you right now
So your definition of socialism is:

n.

Silence from Kamala?

Weird.
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kalm wrote: Sun Aug 25, 2024 7:58 am
Caribbean Hen wrote: Sun Aug 25, 2024 7:47 am

Silence from Kamela is an example…. It’s coming I just can’t tell you right now
So your definition of socialism is:

n.

Silence from Kamala?

Weird.
Of course it’s not the definition, but it is a clue
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Caribbean Hen wrote: Sun Aug 25, 2024 8:03 am
kalm wrote: Sun Aug 25, 2024 7:58 am

So your definition of socialism is:

n.

Silence from Kamala?

Weird.
Of course it’s not the definition, but it is a clue
I didn’t ask for a game of clue. i asked a direct question which you avoid answering. That's typical any time you get called out.
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Caribbean Hen wrote: Sun Aug 25, 2024 5:40 am
UNI88 wrote: Sat Aug 24, 2024 8:01 pm
He hasn't been the same since the worm ate his brain.

How is kennedy a "major representative of millions of people"? Who are these millions of voters that he represents? Has he been elected to an office that I'm unaware of? Have millions of people voted for him in the primaries?
TDS just might usher Socialism on a major scale into the country …. who would’ve guessed it 10 years ago
Non sequitur.
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Caribbean Hen wrote: Sun Aug 25, 2024 8:03 am
kalm wrote: Sun Aug 25, 2024 7:58 am

So your definition of socialism is:

n.

Silence from Kamala?

Weird.
Of course it’s not the definition, but it is a clue
By that logic, January 6 was a clue that we might be ushering in fascism.
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Gen. McMaster’s blistering account of the Trump White House
McMaster describes meetings in the Oval Office as “exercises in competitive sycophancy” during which Trump’s advisers would flatter the president by saying stuff like, “Your instincts are always right” or, “No one has ever been treated so badly by the press.” Meanwhile, Trump would say “outlandish” things like, “Why don’t we just bomb the drugs?” in Mexico or, “Why don’t we take out the whole North Korean Army during one of their parades?”
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“I knew that to fulfill my duty, I would have to tell Trump what he didn’t want to hear.” This helps explain why McMaster lasted just over a year in the job.

One subject was particularly neuralgic for Trump: Russia. McMaster astutely observes, “I wished that Trump could separate the issue of Russian election meddling from the legitimacy of his presidency. He could have said, ‘Yes, they attacked the election. But Russia doesn’t care who wins our elections. What they want to do is pit Americans against one another… .’ McMaster writes that the “fragility” of Trump’s ego and “his deep sense of aggrievement” would never allow him to make this kind of distinction.

McMaster felt it was his “duty” to point out to Trump that Russian President Vladimir Putin “was not and would never be Trump’s friend.” McMaster warned Trump that Putin is “the best liar in the world” and would try to “play” Trump to get what he wanted and manipulate him with “ambiguous promises of a ‘better relationship.’”
Does this make 17?

How are MAQA yahoos going to attempt to dismiss the opinions of a decorated general?
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UNI88 wrote: Sun Aug 25, 2024 11:11 am Gen. McMaster’s blistering account of the Trump White House
McMaster describes meetings in the Oval Office as “exercises in competitive sycophancy” during which Trump’s advisers would flatter the president by saying stuff like, “Your instincts are always right” or, “No one has ever been treated so badly by the press.” Meanwhile, Trump would say “outlandish” things like, “Why don’t we just bomb the drugs?” in Mexico or, “Why don’t we take out the whole North Korean Army during one of their parades?”
...
“I knew that to fulfill my duty, I would have to tell Trump what he didn’t want to hear.” This helps explain why McMaster lasted just over a year in the job.

One subject was particularly neuralgic for Trump: Russia. McMaster astutely observes, “I wished that Trump could separate the issue of Russian election meddling from the legitimacy of his presidency. He could have said, ‘Yes, they attacked the election. But Russia doesn’t care who wins our elections. What they want to do is pit Americans against one another… .’ McMaster writes that the “fragility” of Trump’s ego and “his deep sense of aggrievement” would never allow him to make this kind of distinction.

McMaster felt it was his “duty” to point out to Trump that Russian President Vladimir Putin “was not and would never be Trump’s friend.” McMaster warned Trump that Putin is “the best liar in the world” and would try to “play” Trump to get what he wanted and manipulate him with “ambiguous promises of a ‘better relationship.’”
Does this make 17?

How are MAQA yahoos going to attempt to dismiss the opinions of a decorated general?
Emperor Todd Trump…

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UNI88 wrote: Sun Aug 25, 2024 11:11 am Gen. McMaster’s blistering account of the Trump White House
McMaster describes meetings in the Oval Office as “exercises in competitive sycophancy” during which Trump’s advisers would flatter the president by saying stuff like, “Your instincts are always right” or, “No one has ever been treated so badly by the press.” Meanwhile, Trump would say “outlandish” things like, “Why don’t we just bomb the drugs?” in Mexico or, “Why don’t we take out the whole North Korean Army during one of their parades?”
...
“I knew that to fulfill my duty, I would have to tell Trump what he didn’t want to hear.” This helps explain why McMaster lasted just over a year in the job.

One subject was particularly neuralgic for Trump: Russia. McMaster astutely observes, “I wished that Trump could separate the issue of Russian election meddling from the legitimacy of his presidency. He could have said, ‘Yes, they attacked the election. But Russia doesn’t care who wins our elections. What they want to do is pit Americans against one another… .’ McMaster writes that the “fragility” of Trump’s ego and “his deep sense of aggrievement” would never allow him to make this kind of distinction.

McMaster felt it was his “duty” to point out to Trump that Russian President Vladimir Putin “was not and would never be Trump’s friend.” McMaster warned Trump that Putin is “the best liar in the world” and would try to “play” Trump to get what he wanted and manipulate him with “ambiguous promises of a ‘better relationship.’”
Does this make 17?

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Emperor Todd Trump…

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UNI88 wrote: Sun Aug 25, 2024 11:11 am Gen. McMaster’s blistering account of the Trump White House
McMaster describes meetings in the Oval Office as “exercises in competitive sycophancy” during which Trump’s advisers would flatter the president by saying stuff like, “Your instincts are always right” or, “No one has ever been treated so badly by the press.” Meanwhile, Trump would say “outlandish” things like, “Why don’t we just bomb the drugs?” in Mexico or, “Why don’t we take out the whole North Korean Army during one of their parades?”
...
“I knew that to fulfill my duty, I would have to tell Trump what he didn’t want to hear.” This helps explain why McMaster lasted just over a year in the job.

One subject was particularly neuralgic for Trump: Russia. McMaster astutely observes, “I wished that Trump could separate the issue of Russian election meddling from the legitimacy of his presidency. He could have said, ‘Yes, they attacked the election. But Russia doesn’t care who wins our elections. What they want to do is pit Americans against one another… .’ McMaster writes that the “fragility” of Trump’s ego and “his deep sense of aggrievement” would never allow him to make this kind of distinction.

McMaster felt it was his “duty” to point out to Trump that Russian President Vladimir Putin “was not and would never be Trump’s friend.” McMaster warned Trump that Putin is “the best liar in the world” and would try to “play” Trump to get what he wanted and manipulate him with “ambiguous promises of a ‘better relationship.’”
Does this make 17?

How are MAQA yahoos going to attempt to dismiss the opinions of a decorated general?
Oooh. Was that one of the guys Trump overpowered when he took control of The Beast and stormed back to the Capitol?

Yes, he's just like RFK Jr in his importance of unifying common goals between the Independent and Republican tickets. Perfectly the same.
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UNI88 wrote: Sat Aug 24, 2024 8:01 pm
kalm wrote: Sat Aug 24, 2024 6:30 pm

I saw Bobby speak at EWU in the late 90’s promoting the Riverkeepers which did outstanding work. Used to listen the Ring of Fire radio show with Bobby and Mike Pappantonio.

Something happened to him. Sad.

In another week, you’ll all be saving rivers from pollution, supporting the repeal of Citizens United, and advocating for the Feds to regulate hedge fund and foreign investors parking their money in residential real estate like Bobby is.

Welcome to the far left homies! Haha!
He hasn't been the same since the worm ate his brain.

How is kennedy a "major representative of millions of people"? Who are these millions of voters that he represents? Has he been elected to an office that I'm unaware of? Have millions of people voted for him in the primaries?
He was polling at around 5%. 150+ million voted 2020..

The left claims Comrade Commiela represents tens of millions of people, and she has received lesss than 1% and 0% of the votes the last 2 presidential primaries..
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BDKJMU wrote: Sun Aug 25, 2024 1:27 pm
UNI88 wrote: Sat Aug 24, 2024 8:01 pm
He hasn't been the same since the worm ate his brain.

How is kennedy a "major representative of millions of people"? Who are these millions of voters that he represents? Has he been elected to an office that I'm unaware of? Have millions of people voted for him in the primaries?
He was polling at around 5%. 150+ million voted 2020..

The left claims Comrade Commiela represents tens of millions of people, and she has received lesss than 1% and 0% of the votes the last 2 presidential primaries..
She was on the ticket that was elected in 2020. Before that she's been elected to the US Senate, California Attorney General, and San Francisco District Attorney. Voters have actually cast ballots for her. How many voters have actually cast ballots for rfk jr?

Yes he was polling around 5% when he dropped out. In March he was polling at around 10%. His campaign was sinking into irrelevance.
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UNI88 wrote: Sun Aug 25, 2024 1:53 pm
BDKJMU wrote: Sun Aug 25, 2024 1:27 pm
He was polling at around 5%. 150+ million voted 2020..

The left claims Comrade Commiela represents tens of millions of people, and she has received lesss than 1% and 0% of the votes the last 2 presidential primaries..
She was on the ticket that was elected in 2020. Before that she's been elected to the US Senate, California Attorney General, and San Francisco District Attorney. Voters have actually cast ballots for her. How many voters have actually cast ballots for rfk jr?

Yes he was polling around 5% when he dropped out. In March he was polling at around 10%. His campaign was sinking into irrelevance.
Voters in DEEP blue SF and blue CA have cast ballots for her. Almost no one outside of CA has.

If the donks had removed Biden from running a year earlier than they did and had a real primary there’s little chance she would have been the donk nominee. Again she was polling at about 1% in 2020 donk primary when she dropped out.
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SeattleGriz wrote: Sun Aug 25, 2024 12:33 pm
UNI88 wrote: Sun Aug 25, 2024 11:11 am Gen. McMaster’s blistering account of the Trump White House

Does this make 17?

How are MAQA yahoos going to attempt to dismiss the opinions of a decorated general?
Oooh. Was that one of the guys Trump overpowered when he took control of The Beast and stormed back to the Capitol?

Yes, he's just like RFK Jr in his importance of unifying common goals between the Independent and Republican tickets. Perfectly the same.
General HR McMaster was a National Security Advisor under trump. What governmental positions has rfk jr held?

As kalm said he's did some good work but he's gone off the deep end into cloud cuckoo land.

On the bolded, what proof do you have that rfk jr is trying to unify the Independent and Republican tickets for the good of all and not for his own selfish benefit? And don't regurgitate what he said, he's a politician and his words are not proof.

I ask because you seem to believe that rfk jr, trump and other MAQA yahoos say and do what they do for noble reasons while believing that those that opposed them are lying for nefarious reasons. You have no proof and do this based on your faith in them and your belief in their ideology. You then dismiss anyone that disagrees by asking for irrefutable/video proof or simply calling them names and questioning their sanity.
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BDKJMU wrote: Sun Aug 25, 2024 1:59 pm
UNI88 wrote: Sun Aug 25, 2024 1:53 pm
She was on the ticket that was elected in 2020. Before that she's been elected to the US Senate, California Attorney General, and San Francisco District Attorney. Voters have actually cast ballots for her. How many voters have actually cast ballots for rfk jr?

Yes he was polling around 5% when he dropped out. In March he was polling at around 10%. His campaign was sinking into irrelevance.
Voters in DEEP blue SF and blue CA have cast ballots for her. Almost no one outside of CA has.

If the donks had removed Biden from running a year earlier than they did and had a real primary there’s little chance she would have been the donk nominee. Again she was polling at about 1% in 2020 donk primary when she dropped out.
That's more voters than have cast ballots for rfk jr.

You might be right but it's irrelevant at this point in time. She is the Democratic candidate and if rfk jr's 5% matters then so does harris' 46% which is nine times greater than rfk jrs.
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UNI88 wrote: Sun Aug 25, 2024 2:06 pm
SeattleGriz wrote: Sun Aug 25, 2024 12:33 pm

Oooh. Was that one of the guys Trump overpowered when he took control of The Beast and stormed back to the Capitol?

Yes, he's just like RFK Jr in his importance of unifying common goals between the Independent and Republican tickets. Perfectly the same.
General HR McMaster was a National Security Advisor under trump. What governmental positions has rfk jr held?

As kalm said he's did some good work but he's gone off the deep end into cloud cuckoo land.

On the bolded, what proof do you have that rfk jr is trying to unify the Independent and Republican tickets for the good of all and not for his own selfish benefit? And don't regurgitate what he said, he's a politician and his words are not proof.

I ask because you seem to believe that rfk jr, trump and other MAQA yahoos say and do what they do for noble reasons while believing that those that opposed them are lying for nefarious reasons. You have no proof and do this based on your faith in them and your belief in their ideology. You then dismiss anyone that disagrees by asking for irrefutable/video proof or simply calling them names and questioning their sanity.
It's not that difficult, but let me spell it out for you.

RFK represented millions of Liberal votes with his platform. RFK has now agreed to bring important parts of his platform to Trump's. While the two are quite different politicians, they both agree that a big problem in America is the chronic health issue.

Two separate tickets uniting the common parts.
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