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UNI88 wrote: Mon Oct 21, 2024 9:27 pm
BDKJMU wrote: Mon Oct 21, 2024 9:10 pm
You going to claim the other 7 betting sites, only a couple points on avg less conkish, are conk controlled also? :suspicious:
https://www.realclearpolling.com/bettin ... /president
They aren't polls and people with money can use it to influence what they show. IF those people are willing to spend $43 million on Polymarket, why wouldn't they or others be willing to do it on Kalshi, PredictIt, etc?
Reading is fundamental. :suspicious: Neither of those sites are included in the RCP avg.

43 million. Lol that’s not going to influence much 2.2 BILLION already bet on the just the 2024 POTUS election just on Polymarket. Newsflash Kamala was ahead on Polymarket as late as 10/2.
https://polymarket.com/event/presidenti ... 9572391057
And people willing to throw down multiple 8 figures guarantee have access that you, I & the gen public don’t have: internal polling.
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BDKJMU wrote: Mon Oct 21, 2024 9:53 pm
UNI88 wrote: Mon Oct 21, 2024 9:27 pm

They aren't polls and people with money can use it to influence what they show. IF those people are willing to spend $43 million on Polymarket, why wouldn't they or others be willing to do it on Kalshi, PredictIt, etc?
Reading is fundamental. :suspicious: Neither of those sites are included in the RCP avg.

43 million. Lol that’s not going to influence much 2.2 BILLION already bet on the just the 2024 POTUS election just on Polymarket. Newsflash Kamala was ahead on Polymarket as late as 10/2.
https://polymarket.com/event/presidenti ... 9572391057
And people willing to throw down multiple 8 figures guarantee have access that you, I & the gen public don’t have: internal polling.
You don't need access to internal polling if you pay attention, son. The Donald is in Panic Mode and the tell is that its not even Halloween and he's already talking about the War on Christmas. :coffee:
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Also, many can rightly sense that Kamala’s a fraud:

1981: 🚩Graduated High School in CANADA, where she grew up since the age of 12.
1981: Attended Vanier College in Montreal, for 1yr.
1982: 🚩Transferred to Howard University, is held back.
1986: Graduated Howard University

🚩 No US Diploma & took 5yrs to complete a 4yr undergraduate degree.

🚩🚩Kamala got into law school through an affirmative action program called the Legal Education Opportunity Program. As the underachieving daughter of Professors, Kamala is a prime example of how AA was abused, and why it is illegal, today.

1987: 🚩#82 Law School in US
1988: 🚩#82 Law School in US
1989: Graduated from it: Hasting College of Law
1990: Staff Lawyer DAs office in Bay Area (all newbies are called eg “Assistant DAs” or “Deputy DAs”, etc.)

🚩FAILED Bar Exam and, after needing a do-over, eventually passed. NOTE: Kamala Harris was a below average law student & only 18% of her UC Hastings law classmates failed the bar that year.

1991: Staff Lawyer
1992: Staff Lawyer, then Employment is terminated.

1993: 🚩Began affair w/Willie Brown, twice her age.

(Finally registered to vote at Age 29, despite telling everyone she was an avid “feedumb” advocate since childhood.)

1994: 🚩Willie appointed her to high-paying job on Unemployment Insurance Board.

🚩Kamala had no Insurance Experience though, so the Press took notice of inappropriately appointing his mistress to public political positions & wrote about it, even in, eg, The Los Angeles Times, etc.

1995: 🚩Kamala quit that Board as Willie appointed her to a different high-paying 1 that required fewer hours & just once a month meetings - CA Medical Asst. Commission.

🚩Yet again, Kamala had no Medical or relevant Legal experience, though. More bad Press shared this truth.

1996: Nothing Else
1997: Nothing Else
1998: Willie sent her back to a Staff Attorney job, managing fine & fee processing, filing at CCU in SF for that DAs Office.

1999: 🚩Caught neglecting to properly file exculpatory evidence in George Gage case—led to 70 year prison sentence. Press was all over it.

2000: 🚩Had to leave there, so Willie sent her to work as a Staff Attorney at SF City Hall, working for city attorney Louise Renne, doing filing for child abuse & neglect cases.
2001: Same
2002: 🚩Lied about Prosecutorial Record. Press was all over it.

(🚩🚩Google Search shows no video, pics or any evidence of Kamala Harris actually prosecuting a case, talking to press after she did, etc., like normal DAs Office Attorneys do, etc., bc she never actually did.)

2003: 🚩NONETHELESS, powerful local politician & Mayor now, Willie Brown, admitted he miraculously helped get Staff Attorney Kamala elected as San Francisco DA!!

2004: 🚩Refused to seek death penalty for cop murderer.
2005: 🚩Refused to release records of sexually abusive Priests.
2006:
2007:
2008:
2009:
2010: Elected as CA AG by 0.5% margin.
2011: 🚩Withheld information leading to 600+ drug-related cases being tossed.
2012: } 🚩Threw 1,500+ people behind
2013: } bars over marijuana offenses
2014: } and refused early release of
2015: } prisoners bc of cheap labor.
2016: Elected to the CA U.S. Senate seat.
2017:
2018: 🚩Chanted “down, down with deportation” at parade w/hoaxter Jussie Smollett.

2019: 🚩Entered 2020 presidential race—dropped out over no support from her own State, due to her publicized abysmal history & lack of real experience.
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kalm wrote: Tue Oct 22, 2024 6:30 am
nah, allowing the K puppet to speak is the Dems biggest problem right now, but she does have one thing going for her..... her voters are dumber than her....check out Nick Shirley in Atlanta, Hounddawg makes an appearance and is the lady dressed in red

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kalm wrote: Tue Oct 22, 2024 6:30 am
Funny how in 2016 and 2020 with a lot of polls way undercounting Trump the left wasn’t complaining about democrats purchasing and flooding the the zone with Clinton and Biden leaning junk polls,

Gamestoppig lol. If Commiela wins these guys lose their $$$$.
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BDKJMU wrote: Mon Oct 21, 2024 9:53 pm
UNI88 wrote: Mon Oct 21, 2024 9:27 pm
They aren't polls and people with money can use it to influence what they show. IF those people are willing to spend $43 million on Polymarket, why wouldn't they or others be willing to do it on Kalshi, PredictIt, etc?
Reading is fundamental. :suspicious: Neither of those sites are included in the RCP avg.

43 million. Lol that’s not going to influence much 2.2 BILLION already bet on the just the 2024 POTUS election just on Polymarket. Newsflash Kamala was ahead on Polymarket as late as 10/2.
https://polymarket.com/event/presidenti ... 9572391057
And people willing to throw down multiple 8 figures guarantee have access that you, I & the gen public don’t have: internal polling.
Do you know what etc. means?
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This thread should be locked after that CH post about Kamala, game over master class in winning.

Shes a low IQ fraud thats why 88 and KKKalm relate to her so well
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NYT sending reporters out to McDonalds locations to get employees to comment on how Trump was doing things wrong..like the box was backward. He didn’t put the salt on right…lol…MCTriggered..
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BDKJMU wrote: Tue Oct 22, 2024 12:22 pm Image
Again. Nobody is losing their mind. They’re just laughing at the staged and feeble publicity stunt of someone who’s never worked a day of manual labor his entire life.

But you guys sure do feel the need to provide cover.
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Lol its starting..
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Biden was the better candidate thats why they ELECTED him. She got 1% of the vote back then and ZERO% now.
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kalm wrote: Tue Oct 22, 2024 12:46 pm
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Again. Nobody is losing their mind. They’re just laughing at the staged and feeble publicity stunt of someone who’s never worked a day of manual labor his entire life.

But you guys sure do feel the need to provide cover.
Nope. The left is
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BDKJMU wrote: Fri Oct 18, 2024 12:02 pm UNI88 forgot there’s a meme’s thread.
Who forgot there was a meme's thread? :D
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BDKJMU wrote: Mon Oct 21, 2024 8:15 pm In a 3 day period Trump blows up the left’s narrative that “Trump Is Hitler”. 1st it was 25+ min of standup at the Al Smith dinner, and then it was working the drive through at McDonalds. Hitler never did stand up comedy. Does anyone believe Hitler could have done stand up comedy? Does anyone believe Hitler could have worked the drive through window at McDonalds?
Mussolini is a better comparison for donito “il douche” trumpolini ...
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Coming from someone that couldnt even spell Fascism let alone define it.

That mildly humorous
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SuperHornet can break out the pom poms.
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Is Lizzy Cheney like Crumbellas Gazoo?

the moment you need is on my shoulder .....

The best thing about a Trump win would be we would never have to see Tiny Tim Walz again
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Caribbean Hen wrote: Wed Oct 23, 2024 5:49 am Is Lizzy Cheney like Crumbellas Gazoo?

the moment you need is on my shoulder .....

The best thing about a Trump win would be we would never have to see Tiny Tim Walz again
I’m not sure campaigning with Cheney is all that valuable but like Walz, she seems to be fairly honest about her opinions.

It’s tough to like any politician but Walz is about close as you can get.

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kalm wrote: Wed Oct 23, 2024 6:10 am
Caribbean Hen wrote: Wed Oct 23, 2024 5:49 am Is Lizzy Cheney like Crumbellas Gazoo?

the moment you need is on my shoulder .....

The best thing about a Trump win would be we would never have to see Tiny Tim Walz again
I’m not sure campaigning with Cheney is all that valuable but like Walz, she seems to be fairly honest about her opinions.

It’s tough to like any politician but Walz is about close as you can get.

lol total lack of self-awareness from Timmy

Was Elon imitating Walz....
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A must read regarding character, sacrifice, and honor.
I’ve also previously reported on Trump’s 2017 Memorial Day visit to Arlington National Cemetery. Kelly, who was then the secretary of homeland security, accompanied him. The two men visited Section 60, the 14-acre section that is the burial ground for those killed in America’s most recent wars (and the site of Trump’s Arlington controversy earlier this year). Kelly’s son Robert, a Marine officer killed in 2010 in Afghanistan, is buried in Section 60. Trump, while standing by Robert Kelly’s grave, turned to his father and said, “I don’t get it. What was in it for them?” At first, Kelly believed that Trump was making a reference to the selflessness of America’s all-volunteer force. But later he came to realize that Trump simply does not understand nontransactional life choices. I quoted one of Kelly’s friends, a fellow retired four-star general, who said of Trump, “He can’t fathom the idea of doing something for someone other than himself. He just thinks that anyone who does anything when there’s no direct personal gain to be had is a sucker.” At moments when Kelly was feeling particularly frustrated by Trump, he would leave the White House and cross the Potomac to visit his son’s grave, in part to remind himself about the nature of full-measure sacrifice.


Last year Kelly told me, in reference to Mark Milley’s 44 years in uniform, “The president couldn’t fathom people who served their nation honorably.”

The specific incident I reported in the 2020 article that gained the most attention also provided the story with its headline—“Trump: Americans Who Died in War Are ‘Losers’ and ‘Suckers.’” The story concerned a visit Trump made to France in 2018, during which the president called Americans buried in a World War I cemetery “losers.” He said, in the presence of aides, “Why should I go to that cemetery? It’s filled with losers.” At another moment during this trip, he referred to the more than 1,800 Marines who had lost their lives at Belleau Wood as “suckers” for dying for their country.


Trump had already been scheduled to visit one cemetery, and he did not understand why his team was scheduling a second cemetery visit, especially considering that the rain would be hard on his hair. “Why two cemeteries?” Trump asked. “What the fuck?” Kelly subsequently canceled the second visit, and attended a ceremony there himself with General Dunford and their wives.

White House Chief of Staff John Kelly and Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Joseph Dunford visit the Aisne-Marne American Cemetery and Memorial in Belleau, France, in November 2018. (Shealah Craighead / White House)
The article sparked great controversy, and provoked an irate reaction from the Trump administration, and from Trump himself. In tweets, statements, and press conferences in the days, weeks, and years that followed, Trump labeled The Atlantic a “second-rate magazine,” a “failing magazine,” a “terrible magazine,” and a “third-rate magazine that’s not going to be in business much longer”; he also referred to me as a “con man,” among other things. Trump has continued these attacks recently, calling me a “horrible, radical-left lunatic named Goldberg” at a rally this summer.


In the days after my original article was published, both the Associated Press and, notably, Fox News, confirmed the story, causing Trump to demand that Fox fire Jennifer Griffin, its experienced and well-regarded defense reporter. A statement issued by Alyssa Farah, a White House spokesperson, soon after publication read, “This report is false. President Trump holds the military in the highest regard.”

Shortly after the story appeared, Farah asked numerous White House officials if they had heard Trump refer to veterans and war dead as suckers or losers. She reported publicly that none of the officials she asked had heard him use these terms. Eventually, Farah came out in opposition to Trump. She wrote on X last year that she’d asked the president if my story was true. “Trump told me it was false. That was a lie.”


When I spoke to Farah, who is now known as Alyssa Farah Griffin, this week, she said, “I understood that people were skeptical about the ‘suckers and losers’ story, and I was in the White House pushing back against it. But he said this to John Kelly’s face, and I fundamentally, absolutely believe that John Kelly is an honorable man who served our country and who loves and respects our troops. I’ve heard Donald Trump speak in a dehumanizing way about so many groups. After working for him in 2020 and hearing his continuous attacks on service members since that time, including my former boss General Mark Milley, I firmly and unequivocally believe General Kelly’s account.”

(Pfeiffer, the Trump spokesperson, said, in response, “Alyssa is a scorned former employee now lying in her pursuit to chase liberal adulation. President Trump would never insult our nation’s heroes.”)


Last year, I published a story in this magazine about Milley that coincided with the end of his four-year term. In it, I detailed his tumultuous relationship with Trump. Milley had resisted Trump’s autocratic urges, and also argued against his many thoughtless and impetuous national-security impulses. Shortly after that story appeared, Trump publicly suggested that Milley be executed for treason. This astonishing statement caused John Kelly to speak publicly about Trump and his relationship to the military. Kelly, who had previously called Trump “the most flawed person I have ever met in my life,” told CNN’s Jake Tapper that Trump had referred to American prisoners of war as “suckers” and described as “losers” soldiers who died while fighting for their country.

“What can I add that has not already been said?” Kelly asked. “A person that thinks those who defend their country in uniform, or are shot down or seriously wounded in combat, or spend years being tortured as POWs, are all ‘suckers’ because ‘there is nothing in it for them.’ A person that did not want to be seen in the presence of military amputees because ‘it doesn’t look good for me.’ A person who demonstrated open contempt for a Gold Star family—for all Gold Star families—on TV during the 2016 campaign, and rants that our most precious heroes who gave their lives in America’s defense are ‘losers’ and wouldn’t visit their graves in France.”


When we spoke this week, Kelly told me, “President Trump used the terms suckers and losers to describe soldiers who gave their lives in the defense of our country. There are many, many people who have heard him say these things. The visit to France wasn’t the first time he said this.”

Kelly and others have taken special note of the revulsion Trump feels in the presence of wounded veterans. After Trump attended a Bastille Day parade in France, he told Kelly and others that he would like to stage his own parade in Washington, but without the presence of wounded veterans. “I don’t want them,” Trump said. “It doesn’t look good for me.”

Milley also witnessed Trump’s disdain for the wounded. Milley had chosen a severely wounded Army captain, Luis Avila, to sing “God Bless America” at his installation ceremony in 2019. Avila, who had completed five combat tours, had lost a leg in an improvised-explosive-device attack in Afghanistan, and had suffered two heart attacks, two strokes, and brain damage as a result of his injuries. Avila is considered a hero up and down the ranks of the Army.


It had rained earlier on the day of the ceremony, and the ground was soft; at one point Avila’s wheelchair almost toppled over. Milley’s wife, Holly­anne, ran to help Avila, as did then–Vice President Mike Pence. After Avila’s performance, Trump walked over to congratulate him, but then said to Milley, within earshot of several witnesses, “Why do you bring people like that here? No one wants to see that, the wounded.” Never let Avila appear in public again, Trump told Milley.

An equally serious challenge to Milley’s sense of duty came in the form of Trump’s ignorance of the rules of war. In November 2019, Trump intervened in three different brutality cases then being adjudicated by the military. In the most infamous case, the Navy SEAL Eddie Gallagher had been found guilty of posing with the corpse of an ISIS member. Though Gallagher was found not guilty of murder, witnesses testified that he’d stabbed the prisoner in the neck with a hunting knife. In a highly unusual move, Trump reversed the Navy’s decision to demote him. A junior Army officer named Clint Lorance was also the recipient of Trump’s sympathy. Trump pardoned Lorance, who had been convicted of ordering the shooting of three unarmed Afghans, two of whom died. And in a third case, a Green Beret named Mathew Golsteyn was accused of killing an unarmed Afghan he thought was a Taliban bomb maker. “I stuck up for three great warriors against the deep state,” Trump said at a Florida rally.


In the Gallagher case, Trump intervened to allow Gallagher to keep his Trident insignia, one of the most coveted insignia in the entire U.S. military. The Navy’s leadership found this intervention particularly offensive because tradition held that only a commanding officer or a group of SEALs on a Trident Review Board were supposed to decide who merited being a SEAL. Milley tried to convince Trump that his intrusion was hurting Navy morale. They were flying from Washington to Dover Air Force Base, in Delaware, to attend a “dignified transfer,” a repatriation ceremony for fallen service members, when Milley tried to explain to Trump the damage that his interventions were doing.

In my story, I reported that Milley said, “Mr. President, you have to understand that the SEALs are a tribe within a larger tribe, the Navy. And it’s up to them to figure out what to do with Gallagher. You don’t want to intervene. This is up to the tribe. They have their own rules that they follow.”


Trump called Gallagher a hero and said he didn’t understand why he was being punished.

“Because he slit the throat of a wounded prisoner,” Milley said.

“The guy was going to die anyway,” Trump said.

Milley answered, “Mr. President, we have military ethics and laws about what happens in battle. We can’t do that kind of thing. It’s a war crime.” Trump said he didn’t understand “the big deal.” He went on, “You guys”—meaning combat soldiers—“are all just killers. What’s the difference?”

Milley then summoned one of his aides, a combat-veteran SEAL officer, to the president’s Air Force One office. Milley took hold of the Trident pin on the SEAL’s chest and asked him to describe its importance. The aide explained to Trump that, by tradition, only SEALs can decide, based on assessments of competence and character, whether one of their own should lose his pin. But the president’s mind was not changed. Gallagher kept his pin.
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