Joey Rotten has perfected being wrong.... his administration has been wrong about everythingSeattleGriz wrote: ↑Sat Oct 19, 2024 5:14 am Some of you uninformed rubes need to read this and understand a peace agreement was reached early and the US/UK scuttled it.
https://glenndiesen.substack.com/p/sabo ... ent#_ftn17
In February 2022, Russia invaded Ukraine to impose a settlement after some NATO countries had undermined the Minsk-2 peace agreement for 7 years. On the first day after the invasion, Zelensky confirmed that Moscow contacted him to discuss negotiations based on restoring Ukraine’s neutrality.[1] On the third day after the invasion, Russia and Ukraine agreed to start negotiations on a peace based on Russian military withdrawal in return for Ukrainian neutrality.[2] Zelensky responded favourably to this condition, and he even called for a “collective security agreement” to include Russia to mitigate the security competition that had sparked the war.[3]
The negotiations that followed are referred to as the Istanbul negotiations, in which Russia and Ukraine were close to an agreement before the US and the UK sabotaged it.
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