Trump vs Harris

[SeattleGriz]

See the usual pieces of shit on this board won't denounce Joe's statement. Tells you all you need to know.

[SeattleGriz]

Holy fuck. You Libs voting for Kamala because your wife is overbearing, grab your sack and squeeze.

[UNI88]

See the usual pieces of shit on this board won't denounce Joe's statement. Tells you all you need to know.

Joe's statement was stupid and divisive. It shouldn't have been uttered and he should apologize.

Your turn to denounce doneOLD calling American citizens who oppose him "the enemies within" and threatening to use the military against them.

I won't hold my breath waiting.

[houndawg]

See the usual pieces of shit on this board won't denounce Joe's statement. Tells you all you need to know.

Joe's statement was stupid and divisive. It shouldn't have been uttered and he should apologize.

Your turn to denounce doneOLD calling American citizens who oppose him "the enemies within" and threatening to use the military against them.

I won't hold my breath waiting.

...he's just sayin' what everyone is thinkin

[kalm]

Sorry but that’s complete bullshit and exactly what I’m talking about.

The goal here for any reasonable person is peace and the end of wanton destruction from all combatants.

There are two ways to achieve this. Agreement and cooperation to end hostilities on behalf of both sides or enough death and destruction of one side that they no longer have a choice.

FFS, Reagan was more even handed at this in allowing sanctions and withholding arms to Israel than either Biden or Obama. And you know how much I love Reagan.

Carter helped negotiate a lasting peace at Camp David.

These things can be done. These are choices we as nations and human beings make.

Hmm. You seemed to be missing when Russia was willing to work with Ukraine. In fact you pushed war. Your schtick is old.

Talk about snooze. But hey…at least you, Orban, Kim Jong Un, and all of your MAGA buddies are on the right side of history here.

[kalm]

A truly great read on the reality of economic numbers, federal taxation and the role it plays on increased taxes and/or reduced services at the state and local level. How this of course hurts the middle class on down and in the long run diminishes economic demand on a national level. EG: Apple needs your standard of living high enough to still afford the latest iPhone. Starlink needs your hard earned dollars to afford their Sat-Internet.

The article has some receipts.

We are told repeatedly that Republicans favor low taxes and that Democrats do not. We are reminded consistently by pundits, journalists and scholars that tax cuts represent what may be our most readily available and useful tool for economic stimulus. Flat, or flatter, taxes, we are told, are the only means to the achievement of tax simplicity and tax compliance. In the conventional wisdom, progressively graduated rates mostly “punish” success and discourage capital formation. And tax “fairness” is most often equated with tax variety (rather than tax incidence, or “Who pays what?”). Held widely by American citizens of all classes and education levels, these creeds are all demonstrably false and misleading. And it is adherence to these myths that generates persistent economic volatility and weakness, sapping what is likely the key factor behind strong capitalist economies and the widespread prosperity they are capable of generating: the steady redistribution of income to ensure robust consumer demand, steady incentives for investment and the provision of critical public services. Even on the question of who tends to favor lower or higher taxes, it is easy to be deceived. When income taxes are reduced (at the federal and state level) and the entire tax code is rendered less progressive as a result, two things happen almost automatically: other much more regressive taxes rise to fill the vacuum created by universally demanded (if not readily acknowledged) public services and consumer demand falters as higher taxes begin to fall on those compelled to spend all that they earn. Overall economic activity and prospective revenue growth, in turn, begin to stagnate, triggering a vicious cycle of tax rate increases (among the untouched regressive tax vehicles), just to maintain public services and economic activity.

Capitalizing on this miseducation and ignorance, Republican politicians have stumbled upon a remarkably effective political strategy: preach tax cuts as the be-all and end-all of successful economic policy; ignore the ways in which federal income tax cuts often lead to increased tolls, fees and property, sales, and excise tax increases; relinquish all but rhetorical opposition to the federal deficits created by federal tax cuts; and cap it off by hinting repeatedly that more could be done — allegedly to great effect — by reducing government spending directed at “undeserving” and “unambitious” poor people of color. Finding it quite easy, as well, to paint their Democratic rivals as proponents of higher taxes in general, even as the Republican strategy produces higher regressive taxes that most citizens feel quite readily, Republican political leaders have their cake and eat it too, riding a diffuse anti-tax sentiment to political victory. Actual results in this game don’t often matter, at least as long as their Democratic opponents succeed in staving off the most precipitous decline with safety nets and the preservation of some progressive fiscal policy elements. On the federal level, where the game has been played most completely, Republican prospects also became tied most significantly to the benign neglect of the deficit spending that accompanied every federal income tax cut in the Reagan, Bush and Trump administrations. “Deficits don’t matter,” Dick Cheney declared in 2002. The decried but now accepted deficits had become both the source of fiscal stimulus needed to offset tax cut damage and a perennial weapon wielded against income tax cut opponents. Begun quietly with what Republican activist and Wall Street Journal editor Jude Wanniski called the “Two Santa Claus Theory” — under which Republicans could counter the Democratic social spending Santa Claus with their own tax-cutting Kris Kringle — this approach promised political “success” even amid policy failure, for opponents could be pinned with the deficits and damage it produced.

Exploiting normal psychological tendencies to imagine that “more money in my pocket” and “less money in theirs” simply must be good policy, the widespread ignorance of actual public spending and significant intergovernmental fiscal policies (where federal change forces state and local change, or vice versa), and the compelling notion that personal economic opportunity or success must be derived from personal talent and initiative (rather than significant public policy reform), the “Two Santa Claus” strategy has buoyed a Republican Party that has consistently delivered sub-par results. Here’s hoping that Americans can soon be taught to see through this glass a little less darkly, and that we can, instead, begin to reward good economic policy with the political success it deserves and requires.

https://dailyprogress.com/opinion/colum ... sy3OzUlxOw

[kalm]

Bwhahahaha! They still don’t get it.

To remain an incel or snatch a trad wife. A binary choice that haunts all MAGA.

[BDKJMU]

Bwhahahaha! They still don’t get it.

To remain an incel or snatch a trad wife. A binary choice that haunts all MAGA.

There are probably a lot of guys doing vice versa. Telling their lib girlfriends/wives they are voting for Commiela, while secretly voting for Trump.

[Caribbean Hen]

See the usual pieces of shit on this board won't denounce Joe's statement. Tells you all you need to know.

Fact is Joey the Dim has been showing his hand on how he feels about 200,000,000 million Americans since before he got elected, he's really Butt hurt that people just don't like him

[kalm]

See the usual pieces of shit on this board won't denounce Joe's statement. Tells you all you need to know.

Fact is Joey the Dim has been showing his hand on how he feels about 200,000,000 million Americans since before he got elected, he's really Butt hurt that people just don't like him

Meanwhile, you MAGA types are completely unaware of this just as you were with Trump calling g Kamala a fascist first. Faux outrage! Womp, womp.

[Caribbean Hen]

Fact is Joey the Dim has been showing his hand on how he feels about 200,000,000 million Americans since before he got elected, he's really Butt hurt that people just don't like him

Meanwhile, you MAGA types are completely unaware of this just as you were with Trump calling g Kamala a fascist first. Faux outrage! Womp, womp.

I'm pretty sure the name calling was started by Brew Hillary, deplorables and Dems were calling Trump a fascist the minute he came down the escalator

but who cares, call me whatever you want just don't call me late for dinner

[BDKJMU]

Fact is Joey the Dim has been showing his hand on how he feels about 200,000,000 million Americans since before he got elected, he's really Butt hurt that people just don't like him

Meanwhile, you MAGA types are completely unaware of this just as you were with Trump calling g Kamala a fascist first. Faux outrage! Womp, womp.

He called her those things, NOT her supporters or rally attenders. YUGE difference.

[BDKJMU]

Is Biden trying to sabotage the Harris campaign? Here you the sitting POTUS not involved in the current Presidential campaign at the height of the campaign. Unheard of for a sitting POTUS. During Commiela’s Elipse rally Biden is at the WH literally within sight of the Elipse, yet he doesn’t make an appearance? Yet at the same time he is on a zoom meeting where he calls all the Trump supporters trash. That’s the 2nd (or 3rd) time Biden has been doing an event at literally the same time as a Harris event. It’s a well known secret that Biden is pissed off he was shoved aside, and that his fake doctor wife hates Commiela after she called Biden a racist on national TV during the 2020 donk primary debate. If I thought Biden had the capability I would think he was playing some 3D chess.

[UNI88]

Meanwhile, you MAGA types are completely unaware of this just as you were with Trump calling g Kamala a fascist first. Faux outrage! Womp, womp.

He called her those things, NOT her supporters or rally attenders. YUGE difference.

Calling those that oppose him the "enemy within" and threatening to use the military against more then shrinks that difference.

The snowflake outrage by MAQA yahoos about biden calling them garbage after they've cheered on doneOLD's inflammatory and divisive name calling is rich indeed.

Let's condemn all of it and ask our leaders to be bigger than that.

[kalm]

Meanwhile, you MAGA types are completely unaware of this just as you were with Trump calling g Kamala a fascist first. Faux outrage! Womp, womp.

He called her those things, NOT her supporters or rally attenders. YUGE difference.

Is there?

He’s only threatened to go after “radical left lunatics” and “the enemy within”.

“I think the bigger problem are the people from within. We have some very bad people. We have some sick people, radical-left lunatics,” Trump said.


“And it should be very easily handled by, if necessary, by [the] National Guard or, if really necessary, by the military, because they can’t let that happen,”

Which, according to his own former cabinet officials, he really wanted to do the last time.

So what’s worse, the senile president on his way out saying the quiet and accurate parts out loud or the current candidate threatening to pursue extrajudicial justice while violating the constitution once re-elected?

Are you seriously going to cast Trump as the innocent non-instigator here? Because that would be awesome.

[kalm]

Oh…and he has said “We’re” like a garbage can.

Who’s the we you think he’s talking about.

[Caribbean Hen]

Is Biden trying to sabotage the Harris campaign? Here you the sitting POTUS not involved in the current Presidential campaign at the height of the campaign. Unheard of for a sitting POTUS. During Commiela’s Elipse rally Biden is at the WH literally within sight of the Elipse, yet he doesn’t make an appearance? Yet at the same time he is on a zoom meeting where he calls all the Trump supporters trash. That’s the 2nd (or 3rd) time Biden has been doing an event at literally the same time as a Harris event. It’s a well known secret that Biden is pissed off he was shoved aside, and that his fake doctor wife hates Commiela after she called Biden a racist on national TV during the 2020 donk primary debate. If I thought Biden had the capability I would think he was playing some 3D chess.

Its Jill, she’s finally working for Americans

[Caribbean Hen]

He called her those things, NOT her supporters or rally attenders. YUGE difference.

Calling those that oppose him the "enemy within" and threatening to use the military against more then shrinks that difference.

The snowflake outrage by MAQA yahoos about biden calling them garbage after they've cheered on doneOLD's inflammatory and divisive name calling is rich indeed.

Let's condemn all of it and ask our leaders to be bigger than that.

If Politicians are your leaders you’re in trouble

[BDKJMU]

Some guy named Jake Paul endorsed Trump. I have no ide who that is, but supposedly it’s a big deal.

[BDKJMU]

[kalm]

Some guy named Jake Paul endorsed Trump. I have no ide who that is, but supposedly it’s a big deal.

I’m sure Jake Paul will move done indies and female voters.

[BDKJMU]

Some guy named Jake Paul endorsed Trump. I have no ide who that is, but supposedly it’s a big deal.

I’m sure Jake Paul will move done indies and female voters.

‘done indies’

[Caribbean Hen]

He called her those things, NOT her supporters or rally attenders. YUGE difference.

Is there?

He’s only threatened to go after “radical left lunatics” and “the enemy within”.

“I think the bigger problem are the people from within. We have some very bad people. We have some sick people, radical-left lunatics,” Trump said.


“And it should be very easily handled by, if necessary, by [the] National Guard or, if really necessary, by the military, because they can’t let that happen,”

Which, according to his own former cabinet officials, he really wanted to do the last time.

So what’s worse, the senile president on his way out saying the quiet and accurate parts out loud or the current candidate threatening to pursue extrajudicial justice while violating the constitution once re-elected?

Are you seriously going to cast Trump as the innocent non-instigator here? Because that would be awesome.

Did he actually say he was senile?

[UNI88]

Calling those that oppose him the "enemy within" and threatening to use the military against more then shrinks that difference.

The snowflake outrage by MAQA yahoos about biden calling them garbage after they've cheered on doneOLD's inflammatory and divisive name calling is rich indeed.

Let's condemn all of it and ask our leaders to be bigger than that.

If Politicians are your leaders you’re in trouble

doneOLD is a politician so I guess you and other MAQA yahoos are in trouble.

[kalm]

Is there?

He’s only threatened to go after “radical left lunatics” and “the enemy within”.



Which, according to his own former cabinet officials, he really wanted to do the last time.

So what’s worse, the senile president on his way out saying the quiet and accurate parts out loud or the current candidate threatening to pursue extrajudicial justice while violating the constitution once re-elected?

Are you seriously going to cast Trump as the innocent non-instigator here? Because that would be awesome.

Did he actually say he was senile?

No, but you did. That’s part of the point.

He’s senile yet still the opponent. He’s senile yet able to hurt MAGA feels?