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Re: The Ukraine Crisis

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UNI88 wrote: Sat Mar 01, 2025 2:06 pm
BDKJMU wrote: Sat Mar 01, 2025 1:50 pm
So you just named 8 more European countries. Like I said last night:
There you are with your opinion again. It's no more valid than my opinion which is that European countries are justifiably worried about an expansionist russia and they'd rather step up- and fight them in Ukraine then in the Baltic States, Poland, etc. They're supporting Ukraine's fight for freedom and democracy against a dictator that wants to erase the Ukrainian identity from history.

You should be cheering. trump's little temper tantrum with Zelensky will likely do more to wean European nations off of dependence on the US for defense than anything else he's tried.
This is just fucking stupid. Russia is not interested in taking over Europe. They've got so much in the way of resources, they want to money off that.
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Re: The Ukraine Crisis

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UNI88 wrote: Sat Mar 01, 2025 2:56 pm
SeattleGriz wrote: Sat Mar 01, 2025 2:54 pm

:lol:
Yes, I am willing to go fight russia if they continue to be the aggressor. But I'm approaching 60 and I don't think I'm the ideal candidate for Ukraine or Europe's defense.
Pontificating from Monaco I see, or some other entitled European country hiding behind empty twitter feeds. :coffee:
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Caribbean Hen wrote: Sat Mar 01, 2025 8:32 am
kalm wrote: Sat Mar 01, 2025 8:27 am

Who’s the dwarf?
who cares..

are you signing your family up to fight Russia or not?
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Re: The Ukraine Crisis

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SeattleGriz wrote: Sat Mar 01, 2025 2:57 pm
UNI88 wrote: Sat Mar 01, 2025 2:06 pm

There you are with your opinion again. It's no more valid than my opinion which is that European countries are justifiably worried about an expansionist russia and they'd rather step up- and fight them in Ukraine then in the Baltic States, Poland, etc. They're supporting Ukraine's fight for freedom and democracy against a dictator that wants to erase the Ukrainian identity from history.

You should be cheering. trump's little temper tantrum with Zelensky will likely do more to wean European nations off of dependence on the US for defense than anything else he's tried.
This is just fucking stupid. Russia is not interested in taking over Europe. They've got so much in the way of resources, they want to money off that.
They want the Breadbasket of Europe and a warm water port. The rest is gravy. Bad mistake for NATO not to puree the Russian excuse for an Army while they can.
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Re: The Ukraine Crisis

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SeattleGriz wrote: Sat Mar 01, 2025 2:57 pm
UNI88 wrote: Sat Mar 01, 2025 2:06 pm
There you are with your opinion again. It's no more valid than my opinion which is that European countries are justifiably worried about an expansionist russia and they'd rather step up- and fight them in Ukraine then in the Baltic States, Poland, etc. They're supporting Ukraine's fight for freedom and democracy against a dictator that wants to erase the Ukrainian identity from history.

You should be cheering. trump's little temper tantrum with Zelensky will likely do more to wean European nations off of dependence on the US for defense than anything else he's tried.
This is just fucking stupid. Russia is not interested in taking over Europe. They've got so much in the way of resources, they want to money off that.
russia has no interest in the Baltic States? In Poland? They don't want a buffer zone? It's fvcking stupid to think that isn't a possibility.

Are you ready to continue to support the embarrassing tools in the White House for the next 4 years? Are you ready to keep carrying putin the war criminal's water for a decade?

Do you expect Ukraine to just roll over and give the territory russia currently holds plus probably more without security guarantees? Do you think such a peace with putin will last? Or will he take that as an opportunity to rearm and train new recruits before attempting to finish Ukraine off?

Who are these adults you say are in charge now? When will they make an appearance?
They haven't made an appearance yet.

I answered your questions, don't be a pussy and continue to duck mine.
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Re: The Ukraine Crisis

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Caribbean Hen wrote: Sat Mar 01, 2025 12:08 pm
UNI88 wrote: Sat Mar 01, 2025 11:50 am

You have nothing so you resort to an ad hominem attack.

You and CH keep mentioning adults are in charge/talking but have provided no evidence of these alleged adults in the trump regime.

How much is RT paying you to sell out your country and carry putin's water?
I've only asked Klam one question today and might as well ask you as Klan declined to answer

Are you ready to go fight against Russia on the front lines?

Are all these European nations that tweet "We stand behind The Ukraine" ready to go in and kick Putins ass? or are they standing behind something

Are they ready to fund this embarrassing tool Zelensky for a decade?
Your question didn’t dignify a response.

Are you ready to go fight for Russia on the front lines and save them from the hostile invader?
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Re: The Ukraine Crisis

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Caribbean Hen wrote: Sat Mar 01, 2025 3:12 pm
UNI88 wrote: Sat Mar 01, 2025 2:56 pm
Yes, I am willing to go fight russia if they continue to be the aggressor. But I'm approaching 60 and I don't think I'm the ideal candidate for Ukraine or Europe's defense.
Pontificating from Monaco I see, or some other entitled European country hiding behind empty twitter feeds. :coffee:
I guess it was too much to ask you for an answer that wasn't trite. Trite, superficial answers are your schtick.

I'll ask again:
- Are American kids being sent to the grinder?
- Will Ukraine stop fighting if trump pulls US support?
- Will pulling US support lead to peace? Will it save lives or could it actually cost more lives?
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UNI88 wrote: Sat Mar 01, 2025 5:10 pm
SeattleGriz wrote: Sat Mar 01, 2025 2:57 pm

This is just fucking stupid. Russia is not interested in taking over Europe. They've got so much in the way of resources, they want to money off that.
russia has no interest in the Baltic States? In Poland? They don't want a buffer zone? It's fvcking stupid to think that isn't a possibility.

Are you ready to continue to support the embarrassing tools in the White House for the next 4 years? Are you ready to keep carrying putin the war criminal's water for a decade?

Do you expect Ukraine to just roll over and give the territory russia currently holds plus probably more without security guarantees? Do you think such a peace with putin will last? Or will he take that as an opportunity to rearm and train new recruits before attempting to finish Ukraine off?

Who are these adults you say are in charge now? When will they make an appearance?
They haven't made an appearance yet.

I answered your questions, don't be a pussy and continue to duck mine.
Once again, very slowly. Your line of thinking is wrong. The American people voted out this uninformed neocon view. Go back to shoving green beans up your nose. Child.

Remember when you weren't interested in any of that when Putin offered peace deals before and right after the start of the SMO? Why weren't you talking then? Exactly. Sit down and be quiet. Child.
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Re: The Ukraine Crisis

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SeattleGriz wrote: Sat Mar 01, 2025 5:30 pm
UNI88 wrote: Sat Mar 01, 2025 5:10 pm
russia has no interest in the Baltic States? In Poland? They don't want a buffer zone? It's fvcking stupid to think that isn't a possibility.

Are you ready to continue to support the embarrassing tools in the White House for the next 4 years? Are you ready to keep carrying putin the war criminal's water for a decade?

Do you expect Ukraine to just roll over and give the territory russia currently holds plus probably more without security guarantees? Do you think such a peace with putin will last? Or will he take that as an opportunity to rearm and train new recruits before attempting to finish Ukraine off?

Who are these adults you say are in charge now? When will they make an appearance?
They haven't made an appearance yet.

I answered your questions, don't be a pussy and continue to duck mine.
Once again, very slowly. Your line of thinking is wrong. The American people voted out this uninformed neocon view. Go back to shoving green beans up your nose. Child.

Remember when you weren't interested in any of that when Putin offered peace deals before and right after the start of the SMO? Why weren't you talking then? Exactly. Sit down and be quiet. Child.
Still ducking my questions. Stop being a pussy.
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SeattleGriz wrote: Sat Mar 01, 2025 5:30 pm
UNI88 wrote: Sat Mar 01, 2025 5:10 pm

russia has no interest in the Baltic States? In Poland? They don't want a buffer zone? It's fvcking stupid to think that isn't a possibility.

Are you ready to continue to support the embarrassing tools in the White House for the next 4 years? Are you ready to keep carrying putin the war criminal's water for a decade?

Do you expect Ukraine to just roll over and give the territory russia currently holds plus probably more without security guarantees? Do you think such a peace with putin will last? Or will he take that as an opportunity to rearm and train new recruits before attempting to finish Ukraine off?

Who are these adults you say are in charge now? When will they make an appearance?
They haven't made an appearance yet.

I answered your questions, don't be a pussy and continue to duck mine.
Once again, very slowly. Your line of thinking is wrong. The American people voted out this uninformed neocon view. Go back to shoving green beans up your nose. Child.

Remember when you weren't interested in any of that when Putin offered peace deals before and right after the start of the SMO? Why weren't you talking then? Exactly. Sit down and be quiet. Child.
Tap out. :lol:
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UNI88 wrote: Sat Mar 01, 2025 2:06 pm
BDKJMU wrote: Sat Mar 01, 2025 1:50 pm
So you just named 8 more European countries. Like I said last night:
There you are with your opinion again. It's no more valid than my opinion which is that European countries are justifiably worried about an expansionist russia and they'd rather step up- and fight them in Ukraine then in the Baltic States, Poland, etc. They're supporting Ukraine's fight for freedom and democracy against a dictator that wants to erase the Ukrainian identity from history.

You should be cheering. trump's little temper tantrum with Zelensky will likely do more to wean European nations off of dependence on the US for defense than anything else he's tried.
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SeattleGriz wrote: Sat Mar 01, 2025 2:57 pm
UNI88 wrote: Sat Mar 01, 2025 2:06 pm

There you are with your opinion again. It's no more valid than my opinion which is that European countries are justifiably worried about an expansionist russia and they'd rather step up- and fight them in Ukraine then in the Baltic States, Poland, etc. They're supporting Ukraine's fight for freedom and democracy against a dictator that wants to erase the Ukrainian identity from history.

You should be cheering. trump's little temper tantrum with Zelensky will likely do more to wean European nations off of dependence on the US for defense than anything else he's tried.
This is just fucking stupid. Russia is not interested in taking over Europe. They've got so much in the way of resources, they want to money off that.
That and they don’t have the capability even if the US wasn’t in NATO. 2025 Russia vs the rest of Europe isn’t even in the same realm as 1939 Germany vs the rest of Europe.
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No suit, no lunch, no respect: Zelenskyy-Trump feud started with a fashion dig
Outfitted in a black sweatshirt featuring an embroidered Ukrainian trident, black slacks and boots, he was substantially underdressed in comparison to Trump, who was wearing a suit and tie.

“You’re all dressed up today,” Trump said sarcastically.

President Donald Trump and Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelenskyy got into a heated exchange during their meeting in the Oval Office.
It all quickly went downhill from there.
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During his tête-à-tête with Trump in the Oval Office, Brian Glenn, White House correspondent for the pro-Trump network Real America’s Voice, asked Zelenskyy why he was not wearing a suit while visiting the “highest level” office in the country.

“Why don’t you wear a suit?,” he said. “A lot of Americans have problems with you not respecting the office.”
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UNI88 wrote: Sat Mar 01, 2025 8:30 pm No suit, no lunch, no respect: Zelenskyy-Trump feud started with a fashion dig
Outfitted in a black sweatshirt featuring an embroidered Ukrainian trident, black slacks and boots, he was substantially underdressed in comparison to Trump, who was wearing a suit and tie.

“You’re all dressed up today,” Trump said sarcastically.

President Donald Trump and Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelenskyy got into a heated exchange during their meeting in the Oval Office.
It all quickly went downhill from there.
...
During his tête-à-tête with Trump in the Oval Office, Brian Glenn, White House correspondent for the pro-Trump network Real America’s Voice, asked Zelenskyy why he was not wearing a suit while visiting the “highest level” office in the country.

“Why don’t you wear a suit?,” he said. “A lot of Americans have problems with you not respecting the office.”
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Did brian glenn ask musk why he didn't wear a suit? Hypocrite much MAQA yahoos?
:dunce: that you can’t see that it’s not even a comparable situation. Stupid much TDSers?
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BDKJMU wrote: Sat Mar 01, 2025 8:10 pm
SeattleGriz wrote: Sat Mar 01, 2025 2:57 pm

This is just fucking stupid. Russia is not interested in taking over Europe. They've got so much in the way of resources, they want to money off that.
That and they don’t have the capability even if the US wasn’t in NATO. 2025 Russia vs the rest of Europe isn’t even in the same realm as 1939 Germany vs the rest of Europe.
But it’s what the lying media and the idiot CIA cubicle dwellers, that have been wrong on everything, have told them for their whole life…
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kalm wrote: Sat Mar 01, 2025 5:12 pm
Caribbean Hen wrote: Sat Mar 01, 2025 12:08 pm

I've only asked Klam one question today and might as well ask you as Klan declined to answer

Are you ready to go fight against Russia on the front lines?

Are all these European nations that tweet "We stand behind The Ukraine" ready to go in and kick Putins ass? or are they standing behind something

Are they ready to fund this embarrassing tool Zelensky for a decade?
Your question didn’t dignify a response.

Are you ready to go fight for Russia on the front lines and save them from the hostile invader?
Your smug and dismissive reply totally reflects failed US policy on Russia going back to 1990. They were totally defeated, but you and your political heroes needed evil to justify your endless wars.
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Caribbean Hen wrote: Sun Mar 02, 2025 7:08 am
kalm wrote: Sat Mar 01, 2025 5:12 pm

Your question didn’t dignify a response.

Are you ready to go fight for Russia on the front lines and save them from the hostile invader?
Your smug and dismissive reply totally reflects failed US policy on Russia going back to 1990. They were totally defeated, but you and your political heroes needed evil to justify your endless wars.
Which heroes are you referring to here?
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kalm wrote: Sun Mar 02, 2025 7:33 am
Caribbean Hen wrote: Sun Mar 02, 2025 7:08 am

Your smug and dismissive reply totally reflects failed US policy on Russia going back to 1990. They were totally defeated, but you and your political heroes needed evil to justify your endless wars.
Which heroes are you referring to here?
wow so many, .... Just be thankful that Donald Trump is trying to negotiate peace. It's a welcome approach to a senseless war.
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Caribbean Hen wrote: Sun Mar 02, 2025 8:49 am
kalm wrote: Sun Mar 02, 2025 7:33 am

Which heroes are you referring to here?
wow so many, .... Just be thankful that Donald Trump is trying to negotiate peace. It's a welcome approach to a senseless war.
Which of my heroes do you think disagree with peace?
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Caribbean Hen wrote: Tue Jul 08, 1975 4:10 pmwow so many, .... Just be thankful that Donald Trump is trying to negotiate peace. It's a welcome approach to a senseless war.
He's not trying to negotiate peace. A negotiation would involve both parties and would involve concessions from both sides. He switched sides. Our position is now Russia's.

Give Russia everything they've taken of yours, give Russia back everything you've taken of theirs, you get no security assurances for the future. Deal???? Why don't you want peace like Peaceful Putin???
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Skjellyfetti wrote: Sun Mar 02, 2025 9:22 am
Caribbean Hen wrote: Tue Jul 08, 1975 4:10 pmwow so many, .... Just be thankful that Donald Trump is trying to negotiate peace. It's a welcome approach to a senseless war.
He's not trying to negotiate peace. A negotiation would involve both parties and would involve concessions from both sides. He switched sides. Our position is now Russia's.

Give Russia everything they've taken of yours, give Russia back everything you've taken of theirs, you get no security assurances for the future. Deal???? Why don't you want peace like Peaceful Putin???
that's your TDS speaking; I will forgive you until you're on the medication :D

Trump is speaking with both parties, if he sided with the Ukraine you won't have any negotiations.

Russian won't be giving much if anything back, are you kidding? do you think Putin is going to tell all those mothers I sent your sons to grave for nothing?

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kalm wrote: Sun Mar 02, 2025 9:18 am
Caribbean Hen wrote: Sun Mar 02, 2025 8:49 am

wow so many, .... Just be thankful that Donald Trump is trying to negotiate peace. It's a welcome approach to a senseless war.
Which of my heroes do you think disagree with peace?
Jake Sullivan... wrong on everything
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Caribbean Hen wrote: Sun Mar 02, 2025 7:08 am
kalm wrote: Sat Mar 01, 2025 5:12 pm
Your question didn’t dignify a response.

Are you ready to go fight for Russia on the front lines and save them from the hostile invader?
Your smug and dismissive reply totally reflects failed US policy on Russia going back to 1990. They were totally defeated, but you and your political heroes needed evil to justify your endless wars.
Smug and dismissive reply ...

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When was the last time that you posted something of substance that you authored on your own?
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Caribbean Hen wrote: Sun Mar 02, 2025 9:46 am
kalm wrote: Sun Mar 02, 2025 9:18 am

Which of my heroes do you think disagree with peace?
Jake Sullivan... wrong on everything
Can’t stand Sullivan nor Biden’s Nat. Sec. team in general. And you cited failed policy from the 90’s.

That’s all you got? Try again.
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