The Ukraine Crisis

[SeattleGriz]

EU and/or Ukraine are under no obligation to agree to anything they aren't involved in negotiating and trump is the one who is going to look bad when that happens.

You sure didn't care for the Russian speaking Ukrainians who said they wanted autonomy. Why the change of heart?

[kalm]

You sure didn't care for the Russian speaking Ukrainians who said they wanted autonomy. Why the change of heart?

That’s an internal matter. Would need more information.

There r been secessionist movements everywhere. Like modern day Texas when there’s a Democratic president. Or the formation of the PNW state of Liberty. Ethnic Americans who speak broken English.

[SeattleGriz]

You sure didn't care for the Russian speaking Ukrainians who said they wanted autonomy. Why the change of heart?

That’s an internal matter. Would need more information.

There r been secessionist movements everywhere. Like modern day Texas when there’s a Democratic president. Or the formation of the PNW state of Liberty. Ethnic Americans who speak broken English.

WTF? Shit's been happening for 11 years and you need information? Lazy ass. Told you, that's Uni St Behar's role.

I also love how your ethics changes due to it being an "internal matter". Why do your virtual ethics change? Isn't everything you judge based on what people should be doing to be good people? Slaughtering innocent civilians because they didn't want to be under the angry boot of the political class of the Ukraine sure sounds like an issue.

Here's a little tidbit of what portends for Ukraine:

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/an ... 025-03-14/

This guy was part of Ukraine and the inhumane attack on anyone that didn't toe Slavic hatred toward Russia.

A prominent anti-Russian activist was shot dead in the Ukrainian port city of Odesa on Friday and law enforcement authorities said they were not ruling out Russian involvement in the killing.
A 31-year-old victim was named as Demian Hanul, a blogger who local media said took part in the 2014 Maidan revolution against Ukraine's then pro-Russian president. He was also once a member of the far-right Right Sector group, media said

Also:

https://tass.com/world/1927493

These are the assholes you are defending. Wait until the war is over and retribution comes to all those involved with fucking their fellow Ukrainian over...but that will just be an internal squabble to you with your ever shift ethics.

PARIS, March 13. /TASS/. The European Court of Human Rights (ECHR) has held the Ukrainian authorities accountable for failing to take action to prevent violence and protect lives during the events in Odessa on May 2, 2014, when extremists set fire to the House of Trade Unions.

"In the case the European Court of Human Rights Court held, unanimously, that there had been: violations of Article 2 (right to life/investigation) of the European Convention on Human Rights, on account of the relevant authorities’ failure to do everything that could reasonably be expected of them to prevent the violence in Odesa on 2 May 2014, to stop that violence after its outbreak, to ensure timely rescue measures for people trapped in the fire," reads a press release published on the court's website.

Also, it is said that the Kiev authorities did not conduct a proper investigation of the events.

[kalm]

That’s an internal matter. Would need more information.

There r been secessionist movements everywhere. Like modern day Texas when there’s a Democratic president. Or the formation of the PNW state of Liberty. Ethnic Americans who speak broken English.

WTF? Shit's been happening for 11 years and you need information? Lazy ass. Told you, that's Uni St Behar's role.

I also love how your ethics changes due to it being an "internal matter". Why do your virtual ethics change? Isn't everything you judge based on what people should be doing to be good people? Slaughtering innocent civilians because they didn't want to be under the angry boot of the political class of the Ukraine sure sounds like an issue.

Here's a little tidbit of what portends for Ukraine:

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/an ... 025-03-14/

This guy was part of Ukraine and the inhumane attack on anyone that didn't toe Slavic hatred toward Russia.

A prominent anti-Russian activist was shot dead in the Ukrainian port city of Odesa on Friday and law enforcement authorities said they were not ruling out Russian involvement in the killing.
A 31-year-old victim was named as Demian Hanul, a blogger who local media said took part in the 2014 Maidan revolution against Ukraine's then pro-Russian president. He was also once a member of the far-right Right Sector group, media said

Also:

https://tass.com/world/1927493

These are the assholes you are defending. Wait until the war is over and retribution comes to all those involved with fucking their fellow Ukrainian over...but that will just be an internal squabble to you with your ever shift ethics.

PARIS, March 13. /TASS/. The European Court of Human Rights (ECHR) has held the Ukrainian authorities accountable for failing to take action to prevent violence and protect lives during the events in Odessa on May 2, 2014, when extremists set fire to the House of Trade Unions.

"In the case the European Court of Human Rights Court held, unanimously, that there had been: violations of Article 2 (right to life/investigation) of the European Convention on Human Rights, on account of the relevant authorities’ failure to do everything that could reasonably be expected of them to prevent the violence in Odesa on 2 May 2014, to stop that violence after its outbreak, to ensure timely rescue measures for people trapped in the fire," reads a press release published on the court's website.

Also, it is said that the Kiev authorities did not conduct a proper investigation of the events.

You’re all over the map as usual. You’re not some Russian or Ukrainian expert who fully understands the long history of internal conflict and all of the complications involved either.

Regardless, none of this was a green light for Russia to invade, willfully causing death and destruction.

No amount of your flailing will ever change that.

[SeattleGriz]

WTF? Shit's been happening for 11 years and you need information? Lazy ass. Told you, that's Uni St Behar's role.

I also love how your ethics changes due to it being an "internal matter". Why do your virtual ethics change? Isn't everything you judge based on what people should be doing to be good people? Slaughtering innocent civilians because they didn't want to be under the angry boot of the political class of the Ukraine sure sounds like an issue.

Here's a little tidbit of what portends for Ukraine:

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/an ... 025-03-14/

This guy was part of Ukraine and the inhumane attack on anyone that didn't toe Slavic hatred toward Russia.



Also:

https://tass.com/world/1927493

These are the assholes you are defending. Wait until the war is over and retribution comes to all those involved with fucking their fellow Ukrainian over...but that will just be an internal squabble to you with your ever shift ethics.

You’re all over the map as usual. You’re not some Russian or Ukrainian expert who fully understands the long history of internal conflict and all of the complications involved either.

Regardless, none of this was a green light for Russia to invade, willfully causing death and destruction.

No amount of your flailing will ever change that.

Unlike you, I've educated myself on what has been happening. While not an expert, it is patently obvious you're lazy as fuck when it comes to understanding the situation. Calling the slaughter of Ukrainian civilians an internal squabble shows just how little you understand.

You don't get it do you? You've been supporting a piece of shit regime that was willing to kill it's own civilians. The dude that was put down in the streets was a perfect example. You just wait until the war is over and all the pieces of shit you supported take their laundered money and leave. Everyone who is left had better watch their backs for selling out their fellow countrymen.

Lastly, Putin was asked to defend the Oblasts. Go check your history. Just because your ethical stance is governed by your moral relativism, doesn't mean you can't do some research.

[kalm]

You’re all over the map as usual. You’re not some Russian or Ukrainian expert who fully understands the long history of internal conflict and all of the complications involved either.

Regardless, none of this was a green light for Russia to invade, willfully causing death and destruction.

No amount of your flailing will ever change that.

Unlike you, I've educated myself on what has been happening. While not an expert, it is patently obvious you're lazy as fuck when it comes to understanding the situation. Calling the slaughter of Ukrainian civilians an internal squabble shows just how little you understand.

You don't get it do you? You've been supporting a piece of shit regime that was willing to kill it's own civilians. The dude that was put down in the streets was a perfect example. You just wait until the war is over and all the pieces of shit you supported take their laundered money and leave. Everyone who is left had better watch their backs for selling out their fellow countrymen.

Lastly, Putin was asked to defend the Oblasts. Go check your history. Just because your ethical stance is governed by your moral relativism, doesn't mean you can't do some research.

[SeattleGriz]

Unlike you, I've educated myself on what has been happening. While not an expert, it is patently obvious you're lazy as fuck when it comes to understanding the situation. Calling the slaughter of Ukrainian civilians an internal squabble shows just how little you understand.

You don't get it do you? You've been supporting a piece of shit regime that was willing to kill it's own civilians. The dude that was put down in the streets was a perfect example. You just wait until the war is over and all the pieces of shit you supported take their laundered money and leave. Everyone who is left had better watch their backs for selling out their fellow countrymen.

Lastly, Putin was asked to defend the Oblasts. Go check your history. Just because your ethical stance is governed by your moral relativism, doesn't mean you can't do some research.

Way to fold.

From this:

EU and/or Ukraine are under no obligation to agree to anything they aren't involved in negotiating and trump is the one who is going to look bad when that happens.

To: Ukraine gets to trample over it's own citizen's rights.

Lazy ass. Go educate yourself.