The evidence continues to mount that DHS/ICE is responsible for the deteriorating situation.Federal officers “gassed” Portland police officers and fired pepper balls at one local officer outside the U.S. Immigration and Enforcement building in the city in the past month.
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Portland police also are expected to testify that the increased presence of federal officers outside the ICE building since Sept. 27 has “caused the situation to deteriorate,” with federal officers responding with “needless” and sometimes “arbitrary” firing of tear gas, pepper balls and smoke canisters.
The federal government created “the very emergency they propose to resolve with the National Guard,” lawyers for the two states and city wrote in a trial memorandum filed in federal court Monday.
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Trial over troops ordered to Portland will showcase tension between local police, federal officers
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How ironic (i.e. hypocritical) that they don't want others to cover their faces.
Are they going to arrest themselves for wearing masks whie violating federal, state or local law, ordinance or regulation (excessive force maybe)?
How do you define "near a federal facility"?
I don't see it withstanding a court challenge.
This is more about attempting to intimidate citizens exercising their right to free speech.
They're clearly afraid of the Frog and his friends.
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There is no valid reason for the lunatic leftist protestors to be wearing masks.UNI88 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 06, 2025 8:17 amHow ironic (i.e. hypocritical) that they don't want others to cover their faces.
Are they going to arrest themselves for wearing masks whie violating federal, state or local law, ordinance or regulation (excessive force maybe)?
How do you define "near a federal facility"?
I don't see it withstanding a court challenge.
This is more about attempting to intimidate citizens exercising their right to free speech.
They're clearly afraid of the Frog and his friends.
There‘s an obvious one for the LEOs- to keep the lunatic leftist protestors from doxxing them.

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I don't buy the doxxing thing. First, had it really been that big of an issue? It seems more pre-emptory than anything else. Second, just make the crime for doxxing a police officer or any other LEO incredibly significant - make it 25 years in jail, no parole. Make it like a $1M fine. Basically make it so that someone who does dox a LEO has their life ruined for doing it. I can get behind that, we don't have a working society if people can target and persecute LEO and their families for just doing their job. But I'd rather we go that route than the don't wear uniforms and cover your faces tact we've gone to.BDKJMU wrote: ↑Thu Nov 06, 2025 10:27 amThere is no valid reason for the lunatic leftist protestors to be wearing masks.UNI88 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 06, 2025 8:17 am
How ironic (i.e. hypocritical) that they don't want others to cover their faces.
Are they going to arrest themselves for wearing masks whie violating federal, state or local law, ordinance or regulation (excessive force maybe)?
How do you define "near a federal facility"?
I don't see it withstanding a court challenge.
This is more about attempting to intimidate citizens exercising their right to free speech.
They're clearly afraid of the Frog and his friends.
There‘s an obvious one for the LEOs- to keep the lunatic leftist protestors from doxxing them.
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Well then after the law you propose is passed (I agree with that) then the masks could come off.GannonFan wrote: ↑Thu Nov 06, 2025 11:00 amI don't buy the doxxing thing. First, had it really been that big of an issue? It seems more pre-emptory than anything else. Second, just make the crime for doxxing a police officer or any other LEO incredibly significant - make it 25 years in jail, no parole. Make it like a $1M fine. Basically make it so that someone who does dox a LEO has their life ruined for doing it. I can get behind that, we don't have a working society if people can target and persecute LEO and their families for just doing their job. But I'd rather we go that route than the don't wear uniforms and cover your faces tact we've gone to.

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"Lunatic" leftist protestors? And you complain about trump being called fascist/Nazi/Hitler. Most of them are reasonable people, peacefully protesting as is their right as American citizens.BDKJMU wrote: ↑Thu Nov 06, 2025 10:27 amThere is no valid reason for the lunatic leftist protestors to be wearing masks.UNI88 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 06, 2025 8:17 am
How ironic (i.e. hypocritical) that they don't want others to cover their faces.
Are they going to arrest themselves for wearing masks whie violating federal, state or local law, ordinance or regulation (excessive force maybe)?
How do you define "near a federal facility"?
I don't see it withstanding a court challenge.
This is more about attempting to intimidate citizens exercising their right to free speech.
They're clearly afraid of the Frog and his friends.
There‘s an obvious one for the LEOs- to keep the lunatic leftist protestors from doxxing them.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with protestors wearing frog, unicorn and other costumes that cover their faces. They're doing so to mock the trump regime's argument that Portland is a lawless war zone which is a valid reason to do so. The regime doesn't want them wearing face coverings because they fear the costumes have been effective with swaying the opinions of average Americans.
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Judge permanently bars Trump from deploying National Guard troops to Portland in response to immigration protests
"This Court arrives at the necessary conclusion that there was neither 'a rebellion or danger of a rebellion' nor was the President 'unable with the regular forces to execute the laws of the United States' in Oregon when he ordered the federalization and deployment of the National Guard," U.S. District Judge Karin J. Immergut, who was appointed by President Donald Trump in his first term, wrote in her ruling.
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She said in her order that it appeared Trump was acting in bad faith with highly exaggerated claims of violence in the city, including saying it was “war ravaged” with “ICE Facilities under siege from attack by Antifa” and “crazy people” who “try to burn down buildings, including federal buildings” every night.
“The President’s determination was simply untethered to the facts,” Immergut wrote.
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What Really Happened in Portland Before Trump Deployed the National Guard
We reviewed federal prosecutions and local arrests, internal protest summaries by the Portland Police Bureau, sworn testimony from local and federal officials as well as more than 700 video clips containing hours of footage posted to social media by protesters, counterprotesters and others. We focused on the three months before Sept. 5, when Trump made his first remarks about sending troops to Portland.
The evidence shows officers and protesters were indeed involved in incidents with varying levels of intensity on a little more than half the days. Protesters and counterprotesters exchanged blows at times. With some frequency, smoke and tear gas filled the air and shots from less-lethal police weapons could be heard.
There was no evidence of what could be termed a coordinated assault.
On most of the days or nights when officers and protesters clashed, local police and federal prosecutors ended up announcing no criminal arrests or charges — even though any number of crimes can be cited if someone commits violence against federal officers or property.
In addition, while protests continued across the summer, most of the alleged action by protesters that resulted in federal prosecution or local arrests ended two months before Trump said troops were needed in Portland.
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While the courts deliberate, ProPublica set out to examine the degree to which protesters were fomenting unrest and the role that federal officers themselves played.
Two policing experts who reviewed videos said federal officers at times used force inappropriately, echoing a Portland police official who testified in court that federal officers were instigating the chaos night after night.
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Portland, OregonUNI88 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 29, 2025 8:06 amNo problem, Portland doesn't need modern day freedom hating Pharisee.Caribbean Hen wrote: ↑Wed Oct 29, 2025 4:43 am
If I’m ever out on the West Coast again, I’ll be bypassing Portland
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Have you ever been to Portland, CH? It’s rad and American AF.Caribbean Hen wrote: ↑Mon Nov 10, 2025 7:35 amPortland, Oregon
The capital of We hate America has just canceled the annual Veterans Day parade.
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Unhinged, radical extremists or your neighbors, relatives and other everyday people?
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Healthcare workers protest against ICE in Portland ...

Unhinged, radical extremists or your neighbors, relatives and other everyday people?

Unhinged, radical extremists or your neighbors, relatives and other everyday people?
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Probably the same medical professionals who during the summer of BLM riots said there shouldn’t be public gatherings except for protests for ‘social justice.’

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We all make mistakes. Just look at the morons who think that the January 6 rioters were patriots.
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So you think the med professionals who in the Spring/summer 2021 said no large public gatherings except for BLM protests are morons. I concur.

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And you think donald j trump is a moron. I concur.
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My brother SiL went to the women’s soccer playoff game in downtown Portland yesterday.
They somehow survived.
They somehow survived.
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Looked at these unhinged, radical extremists peacefully attending a Congresswoman's town hall. They're such a violent threat to the American way of life ...
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I wanted an Irish Stout with a proper nitrogen poor so I went to Kells brewery near Providence Park (where the Thorns & Timbers play) yesterday and also somehow managed to survive the war zone.
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Kells is legendary! Nice choice on the stout. Glad you lived to tell the story.
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“Riots Raging”: The Misleading Story Fox News Told About Portland Before Trump Sent Troops
Fox, trump and MAQA purveyors of FAKE NEWS.ProPublica examined months of Fox News’ coverage and reviewed more than 700 video clips posted to social media by protesters, counterprotesters and others in the three months preceding the Sept. 4 broadcast.
The review found that the news network repeatedly provided a misleading picture of what was happening in Portland.
As The Guardian and The Oregonian/OregonLive have reported, Fox News on Sept. 4 used footage from the 2020 protests after the police killing of George Floyd and said it was from 2025. We found two clear cases from that night as well as one that seemed to match a scene filmed at a key site of the 2020 protests. Fox also mislabeled two other dates of actions shown on screen, and one broadcast implied that a protest from elsewhere was happening in Portland.
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As ProPublica reported last week, most clashes between protesters and police before the Fox News segment did not result in any criminal charges or arrests alleging protesters committed violence. What’s more, based on news releases from federal and local authorities, charges and arrests for assault, arson or destruction of property were almost entirely confined to a period that ended the night of July 4.
Videos after that date captured numerous images of federal officers forcefully moving in on protesters without corresponding criminal charges alleging protester violence.
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