2025-2026 Domestic Leftist Violence Thread

[kalm]

It really is that SIMPLE.

Has nothing to do with the right to protest and carry a gun.

[UNI88]

It really is that SIMPLE.

Good advice for ashley babbitt but it doesn't really apply to Alex Pretti since he wasn't obstructing law enforcement and posed little to no threat to the lives of the agents when he was shot.

Video shows an agent disarming him and removing the weapon from his proximity before he was shot. Was he shot in the back? What will the autopsy show?

[Caribbean Hen]

It really is that SIMPLE.

Has nothing to do with the right to protest and carry a gun.

The way the local politicians are elevating things and not allowing ICE to do their job and you decide to go down there with a handgun and two loaded magazine clips….

Your chances of dying just went up dramatically

[Caribbean Hen]

It really is that SIMPLE.

Tony gets it

[BDKJMU]

It really is that SIMPLE.

Has nothing to do with the right to protest and carry a gun.

Carry a gun and physically interfere with law enforcement = FAFO.

[kalm]

Has nothing to do with the right to protest and carry a gun.

The way the local politicians are elevating things and not allowing ICE to do their job and you decide to go down there with a handgun and two loaded magazine clips….

Your chances of dying just went up dramatically

Of course it does. Same as having a firearm in your home.

he had every right to carry his permitted weapon. There are no MN state laws forbidding this. If they had simply detained or arrested him, there would have been no charges filed.

[UNI88]

How did Pretti interfere with / obstruct law enforcement?
- By being there? No
- By filming? No
- By helping a woman who had been shoved to the ground up? No
- By carrying a weapon with a valid permit? No

So tell us, what exactly did he do to interfere / obstruct law enforcement?

More importantly, what threat did he actually pose to the agents at the time that he was shot?
- Was he still armed? No
- Could he have lunged for his weapon? Doesn't look like it
- Could he have physically overpowered the 7 or so agents who were standing over him? No
- Was he even facing the agents or was his back to the agents?

How do you justify shooting an unarmed man 10+ times?

If and when the agents involved are indicted by local/state government will MAQA yahoos be consistent and say that they FAFOed or will they claim government overreach or similar?

[kalm]

Has nothing to do with the right to protest and carry a gun.

Carry a gun and physically interfere with law enforcement = FAFO.

So legally carrying a gun deserves an execution? Do you ever carry guns?

Trying to assist a protestor who had been knocked to the ground by agents is physically interfering with LE? And then getting assaulted by agents is FAFO?

Christ on a crutch you guys are horrible at this.

[SeattleGriz]

It really is that SIMPLE.

Has nothing to do with the right to protest and carry a gun.

It actually does. If you knew anything about carrying a weapon, the cardinal rule is to NEVER get yourself in a situation in which it will need to be used.

Wearing one and then being aggressive is a sure fire way of getting killed.

I conceal carry only in situations where me and/or my family could get boxed in. Both my children know my rule. Stay behind me and we escape if possible, not fight.

You are also supposed to have your CCL and government ID in your possession as well.

[UNI88]

Has nothing to do with the right to protest and carry a gun.

It actually does. If you knew anything about carrying a weapon, the cardinal rule is to NEVER get yourself in a situation in which it will need to be used.

Wearing one and then being aggressive is a sure fire way of getting killed.

Then Agent Jonathan Ross violated the cardinal rule when he stepped in front of Renee Good's vehicle.

Keep pitching softballs junior, using MAQA yahoo "logic" against them is too easy.

[kalm]

Has nothing to do with the right to protest and carry a gun.

It actually does. If you knew anything about carrying a weapon, the cardinal rule is to NEVER get yourself in a situation in which it will need to be used.

Wearing one and then being aggressive is a sure fire way of getting killed.

I conceal carry only in situations where me and/or my family could get boxed in. Both my children know my rule. Stay behind me and we escape if possible, not fight.

Is it protected by the constitution? Check.

Was he aggressively helping another protestor? Check.

[BDKJMU]

Oh, and once he started fighting with law enforcement he was no longer legally carrying because he was committing a felony.

[BDKJMU]

It actually does. If you knew anything about carrying a weapon, the cardinal rule is to NEVER get yourself in a situation in which it will need to be used.

Wearing one and then being aggressive is a sure fire way of getting killed.

I conceal carry only in situations where me and/or my family could get boxed in. Both my children know my rule. Stay behind me and we escape if possible, not fight.

Is it protected by the constitution? Check.

Was he aggressively helping another protestor? Check.

Was he aggressively interfering and then fighting/resisting with law enforcement? Check.
(Which is a felony, which removes said Constitutional protection).

[kalm]

Is it protected by the constitution? Check.

Was he aggressively helping another protestor? Check.

Was he aggressively interfering and then fighting/resisting with law enforcement? Check.
(Which is a felony, which removes said Constitutional protection).

Stretch….

[SeattleGriz]

How did Pretti interfere with / obstruct law enforcement?
- By being there? No
- By filming? No
- By helping a woman who had been shoved to the ground up? No
- By carrying a weapon with a valid permit? No

So tell us, what exactly did he do to interfere / obstruct law enforcement?

More importantly, what threat did he actually pose to the agents at the time that he was shot?
- Was he still armed? No
- Could he have lunged for his weapon? Doesn't look like it
- Could he have physically overpowered the 7 or so agents who were standing over him? No
- Was he even facing the agents or was his back to the agents?

How do you justify shooting an unarmed man 10+ times?

If and when the agents involved are indicted by local/state government will MAQA yahoos be consistent and say that they FAFOed or will they claim government overreach or similar?

You have no idea what transpired and your history of blatent lies on the subject severely undercuts your narrative.

Why did he bring a gun to a protest? Was he going to shoot law enforcement?

[SeattleGriz]

It actually does. If you knew anything about carrying a weapon, the cardinal rule is to NEVER get yourself in a situation in which it will need to be used.

Wearing one and then being aggressive is a sure fire way of getting killed.

Then Agent Jonathan Ross violated the cardinal rule when he stepped in front of Renee Good's vehicle.

Keep pitching softballs junior, using MAQA yahoo "logic" against them is too easy.

Check the video. He initially wasn't in front of the vehicle. It was when she backed up turning the vehicle that he then was in the front left corner of the vehicle. Stop lying.

[UNI88]

Is it protected by the constitution? Check.

Was he aggressively helping another protestor? Check.

Was he aggressively interfering and then fighting/resisting with law enforcement? Check.
(Which is a felony, which removes said Constitutional protection).

How was he"aggressively interfering"?

How did Pretti interfere with / obstruct law enforcement?
- By being there? No
- By filming? No
- By helping a woman who had been shoved to the ground up? No
- By carrying a weapon with a valid permit? No

So tell us, what exactly did he do to interfere / obstruct law enforcement?

More importantly, what threat did he actually pose to the agents at the time that he was shot?
- Was he still armed? No
- Could he have lunged for his weapon? Doesn't look like it
- Could he have physically overpowered the 7 or so agents who were standing over him? No
- Was he even facing the agents or was his back to the agents?

How do you justify shooting an unarmed man 10+ times?

If and when the agents involved are indicted by local/state government will MAQA yahoos be consistent and say that they FAFOed or will they claim government overreach or similar?

[UNI88]

Then Agent Jonathan Ross violated the cardinal rule when he stepped in front of Renee Good's vehicle.

Keep pitching softballs junior, using MAQA yahoo "logic" against them is too easy.

Check the video. He initially wasn't in front of the vehicle. It was when she backed up. Stop lying.

He walked around the vehicle including in front of it before she backed up. He violated the cardinal rule, plain and simple.

The only one lying is you, to yourself.

[BDKJMU]

………

[SeattleGriz]

Check the video. He initially wasn't in front of the vehicle. It was when she backed up. Stop lying.

He walked around the vehicle including in front of it before she backed up. He violated the cardinal rule, plain and simple.

The only one lying is you, to yourself.

No. You said Good did not hit him. Obvious lie.

He circled the vehicle because he was videoing and he originally was out of harms way.

How is putting your vehicle and driving towards officers acceptable, especially when directed to exit the vehicle while it was in park? It's pathetic you are trying to blame this on the officer. It's a non sequitur.

[UNI88]

How did Pretti interfere with / obstruct law enforcement?
- By being there? No
- By filming? No
- By helping a woman who had been shoved to the ground up? No
- By carrying a weapon with a valid permit? No

So tell us, what exactly did he do to interfere / obstruct law enforcement?

More importantly, what threat did he actually pose to the agents at the time that he was shot?
- Was he still armed? No
- Could he have lunged for his weapon? Doesn't look like it
- Could he have physically overpowered the 7 or so agents who were standing over him? No
- Was he even facing the agents or was his back to the agents?

How do you justify shooting an unarmed man 10+ times?

If and when the agents involved are indicted by local/state government will MAQA yahoos be consistent and say that they FAFOed or will they claim government overreach or similar?

You have no idea what transpired and your history of blatent lies on the subject severely undercuts your narrative.

Why did he bring a gun to a protest? Was he going to shoot law enforcement?

You don't want to address my questions so you resort to name callling. You have nothing and you're flailing for reasons to justify the shooting and demonstrate your absolute loyalty to your false god.

How is it that I "have no idea what transpired" when I'm asking people who have stated that Pretti interfered with law enforcement how he did so? They made a statement, I'm asking them to back it up. They appear to be the ones who "have no idea what transpired".

I will ask again (and again if needed) ...

How did Pretti interfere with / obstruct law enforcement?
- By being there? No
- By filming? No
- By helping a woman who had been shoved to the ground up? No
- By carrying a weapon with a valid permit? No

So tell us, what exactly did he do to interfere / obstruct law enforcement?

More importantly, what threat did he actually pose to the agents at the time that he was shot?
- Was he still armed? No
- Could he have lunged for his weapon? Doesn't look like it
- Could he have physically overpowered the 7 or so agents who were standing over him? No
- Was he even facing the agents or was his back to the agents?

How do you justify shooting an unarmed man 10+ times?

[SeattleGriz]

You have no idea what transpired and your history of blatent lies on the subject severely undercuts your narrative.

Why did he bring a gun to a protest? Was he going to shoot law enforcement?

You don't want to address my questions so you resort to name callling. You have nothing and you're flailing for reasons to justify the shooting and demonstrate your absolute loyalty to your false god.

How is it that I "have no idea what transpired" when I'm asking people who have stated that Pretti interfered with law enforcement how he did so? They made a statement, I'm asking them to back it up. They appear to be the ones who "have no idea what transpired".

I will ask again (and again if needed) ...

How did Pretti interfere with / obstruct law enforcement?
- By being there? No
- By filming? No
- By helping a woman who had been shoved to the ground up? No
- By carrying a weapon with a valid permit? No

So tell us, what exactly did he do to interfere / obstruct law enforcement?

More importantly, what threat did he actually pose to the agents at the time that he was shot?
- Was he still armed? No
- Could he have lunged for his weapon? Doesn't look like it
- Could he have physically overpowered the 7 or so agents who were standing over him? No
- Was he even facing the agents or was his back to the agents?

How do you justify shooting an unarmed man 10+ times?

Unlike you, I wait for more video to come out instead of making up a narrative and asking a bunch of unanswerable questions.

What can be said is that the guys parents warned him not to do anything stupid and ALL responsible gun owners know better than to get in a scuffle with law enforcement and then resist.

I love how you don't require any sort of responsibility for stupid actions.

[UNI88]

You don't want to address my questions so you resort to name callling. You have nothing and you're flailing for reasons to justify the shooting and demonstrate your absolute loyalty to your false god.

How is it that I "have no idea what transpired" when I'm asking people who have stated that Pretti interfered with law enforcement how he did so? They made a statement, I'm asking them to back it up. They appear to be the ones who "have no idea what transpired".

I will ask again (and again if needed) ...

How did Pretti interfere with / obstruct law enforcement?
- By being there? No
- By filming? No
- By helping a woman who had been shoved to the ground up? No
- By carrying a weapon with a valid permit? No

So tell us, what exactly did he do to interfere / obstruct law enforcement?

More importantly, what threat did he actually pose to the agents at the time that he was shot?
- Was he still armed? No
- Could he have lunged for his weapon? Doesn't look like it
- Could he have physically overpowered the 7 or so agents who were standing over him? No
- Was he even facing the agents or was his back to the agents?

How do you justify shooting an unarmed man 10+ times?

Unlike you, I wait for more video to come out instead of making up a narrative and asking a bunch of unanswerable questions.

What can be said is that the guys parents warned him not to do anything stupid and ALL responsible gun owners know better than to get in a scuffle with law enforcement and then resist.

I love how you don't require any sort of responsibility for stupid actions.

You should tell the people stating that Pretti interfered with / obstructed law enforcement that they should "wait for more video to come out instead of making up a narrative".

[SeattleGriz]

Unlike you, I wait for more video to come out instead of making up a narrative and asking a bunch of unanswerable questions.

What can be said is that the guys parents warned him not to do anything stupid and ALL responsible gun owners know better than to get in a scuffle with law enforcement and then resist.

I love how you don't require any sort of responsibility for stupid actions.

You should tell the people stating that Pretti interfered with / obstructed law enforcement that they should "wait for more video to come out instead of making up a narrative".

Am I having a discussion with them right now? Love your guilt by association fallacy.

[BDKJMU]

Minnedishu or Mogappolis? The Somalis should feel right at home.