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[kalm]

Temporarily and thanks to trump's war jacking up the price of oil.

Wrong. Been doing fine since the beginning of the SMO. The whole bullshit line Russia is crumpling economically belongs in Klamdami's conspiracy thread. Only you, klamala and jelly buy into it

Or you could get off your lazy ass and, you know produce done facts…maybe read an article.

Russian President Vladimir Putin made his concerns about the economy public as he vented frustration at aides and demanded they come up with solutions.
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During a televised meeting on the economy Wednesday, he revealed that GDP shrank by combined 1.8% in January and February, adding that manufacturing, industrial production, and construction were negative.

“I expect to hear detailed reports today on the current economic situation and why the trajectory of macroeconomic indicators is currently below expectations,” Putin said. “Moreover, below the expectations of not only experts and analysts, but also the forecasts of the government itself and the central bank of Russia.”

The meeting was attended by Prime Minister Mikhail Mishustin, Kremlin Deputy Chief of Staff Maxim Oreshkin, First Deputy Prime Minister Denis Manturov, Deputy Prime Minister Alexander Novak, Central Bank Governor Elvira Nabiullina, and ​the CEO of PSB ​bank.

Russia’s economy had already been slowing down as Putin’s war on Ukraine continues to keep inflation high and the labor market tight.

An economic contraction would be the first since 2022, when Russia invaded Ukraine and was hit by Western sanctions that slashed energy exports.

Massive military spending helped GDP expand by 4.1% in 2023 and 4.9% in 2024. But weak oil revenue and deeper deficits forced Moscow to limit defense outlays. GDP grew by just 1% last year, and the Kremlin earlier predicted 1.3% growth this year.

https://fortune.com/2026/04/18/russia-e ... l-exports/

[SeattleGriz]

Wrong. Been doing fine since the beginning of the SMO. The whole bullshit line Russia is crumpling economically belongs in Klamdami's conspiracy thread. Only you, klamala and jelly buy into it

Or you could get off your lazy ass and, you know produce done facts…maybe read an article.

Russian President Vladimir Putin made his concerns about the economy public as he vented frustration at aides and demanded they come up with solutions.
Recommended Video

During a televised meeting on the economy Wednesday, he revealed that GDP shrank by combined 1.8% in January and February, adding that manufacturing, industrial production, and construction were negative.

“I expect to hear detailed reports today on the current economic situation and why the trajectory of macroeconomic indicators is currently below expectations,” Putin said. “Moreover, below the expectations of not only experts and analysts, but also the forecasts of the government itself and the central bank of Russia.”

The meeting was attended by Prime Minister Mikhail Mishustin, Kremlin Deputy Chief of Staff Maxim Oreshkin, First Deputy Prime Minister Denis Manturov, Deputy Prime Minister Alexander Novak, Central Bank Governor Elvira Nabiullina, and ​the CEO of PSB ​bank.

Russia’s economy had already been slowing down as Putin’s war on Ukraine continues to keep inflation high and the labor market tight.

An economic contraction would be the first since 2022, when Russia invaded Ukraine and was hit by Western sanctions that slashed energy exports.

Massive military spending helped GDP expand by 4.1% in 2023 and 4.9% in 2024. But weak oil revenue and deeper deficits forced Moscow to limit defense outlays. GDP grew by just 1% last year, and the Kremlin earlier predicted 1.3% growth this year.

https://fortune.com/2026/04/18/russia-e ... l-exports/

How many years now have the Russians been in trouble financially? It's just around the corner!

Stop peddling conspiracy and narrative.

[UNI88]

Or you could get off your lazy ass and, you know produce done facts…maybe read an article.



https://fortune.com/2026/04/18/russia-e ... l-exports/

How many years now have the Russians been in trouble financially? It's just around the corner!

Stop peddling conspiracy and narrative.

How many times has trump declared the US has won the war with Iran? It's just around the corner!

The illegal invasion has cost russia in young men, world reputation, and economically. Only a fool would argue otherwise.

[kalm]

Or you could get off your lazy ass and, you know produce done facts…maybe read an article.





https://fortune.com/2026/04/18/russia-e ... l-exports/

How many years now have the Russians been in trouble financially? It's just around the corner!

Stop peddling conspiracy and narrative.

[SeattleGriz]

How many years now have the Russians been in trouble financially? It's just around the corner!

Stop peddling conspiracy and narrative.

How many times has trump declared the US has won the war with Iran? It's just around the corner!

The illegal invasion has cost russia in young men, world reputation, and economically. Only a fool would argue otherwise.

Were you just waiting to use that line just like a kid that can't contain his new joke? Blurting it out at the first chance.

What does Trump's statement on a different topic have to do with the Russian economy?

Is this you?

[UNI88]

How many times has trump declared the US has won the war with Iran? It's just around the corner!

The illegal invasion has cost russia in young men, world reputation, and economically. Only a fool would argue otherwise.

Were you just waiting to use that line just like a kid that can't contain his new joke? Blurting it out at the first chance.

What does Trump's statement on a different topic have to do with the Russian economy?

It highlights your double standard when it comes to anything related to trump and/or his sodomist, putin.

The illegal invasion has cost russia in young men, world reputation, and economically. Only a fool would argue otherwise.

[SeattleGriz]

Were you just waiting to use that line just like a kid that can't contain his new joke? Blurting it out at the first chance.

What does Trump's statement on a different topic have to do with the Russian economy?

It highlights your double standard when it comes to anything related to trump and/or his sodomist, putin.

The illegal invasion has cost russia in young men, world reputation, and economically. Only a fool would argue otherwise.

This was a war that was thrust upon Russia. Russia has been handling this SMO quite easily.

You sure do like gay comments about sucking dick and sodomy. You got a problem with gays?

[kalm]

It highlights your double standard when it comes to anything related to trump and/or his sodomist, putin.

The illegal invasion has cost russia in young men, world reputation, and economically. Only a fool would argue otherwise.

This was a war that was thrust upon Russia. Russia has been handling this SMO quite easily.

You sure do like gay comments about sucking dick and sodomy. You got a problem with gays?

Still claiming Russia’s justification?



Just stop…you’re embarrassing yourself again.

[SeattleGriz]

This was a war that was thrust upon Russia. Russia has been handling this SMO quite easily.

You sure do like gay comments about sucking dick and sodomy. You got a problem with gays?

Still claiming Russia’s justification?



Just stop…you’re embarrassing yourself again.

As soon as you tell me why it was okay for Ukraine to kill its own Russian speaking population that simply wanted to be left alone?

We can get to the bottom of this right now. Why was it okay for Kiev to kill its own citizens?

[UNI88]

Still claiming Russia’s justification?



Just stop…you’re embarrassing yourself again.

As soon as you tell me why it was okay for Ukraine to kill its own Russian speaking population that simply wanted to be left alone?

We can get to the bottom of this right now. Why was it okay for Kiev to kill its own citizens?

Why are you only focused on Ukraine killing its own citizens?
- Why is it okay for putin and the Kremlin to kill its own citizens?
- Why is it okay for trump and his regime to kill US citizens?

[SeattleGriz]

As soon as you tell me why it was okay for Ukraine to kill its own Russian speaking population that simply wanted to be left alone?

We can get to the bottom of this right now. Why was it okay for Kiev to kill its own citizens?

Why are you only focused on Ukraine killing its own citizens?
- Why is it okay for putin and the Kremlin to kill its own citizens?
- Why is it okay for trump and his regime to kill US citizens?

15,000 killed for simply wanting to be left alone is far greater than the two laughable examples you came up with.

Don't forget dropping Russian as an official language as well. If we dropped Spanish in the same manner, you'd stroke out over outrage.

[kalm]

Why are you only focused on Ukraine killing its own citizens?
- Why is it okay for putin and the Kremlin to kill its own citizens?
- Why is it okay for trump and his regime to kill US citizens?

15,000 killed for simply wanting to be left alone is far greater than the two laughable examples you came up with.

Don't forget dropping Russian as an official language as well. If we dropped Spanish in the same manner, you'd stroke out over outrage.

15,000? You mean during the Russian backed Donbass conflict after Crimea? How many troops and how many civilians? Which side were they fighting for?

[UNI88]

Why are you only focused on Ukraine killing its own citizens?
- Why is it okay for putin and the Kremlin to kill its own citizens?
- Why is it okay for trump and his regime to kill US citizens?

15,000 killed for simply wanting to be left alone is far greater than the two laughable examples you came up with.

Don't forget dropping Russian as an official language as well. If we dropped Spanish in the same manner, you'd stroke out over outrage.

It could be argued that Chechen rebels just "wanted to be left alone". How many of them and Chechen civilians did russia kill? Estimated civilian deaths are 25,000-50,000. I don't consider that number "laughable". Why are you so callous about Chechen deaths but care so deeply about russian deaths?

[SeattleGriz]

15,000 killed for simply wanting to be left alone is far greater than the two laughable examples you came up with.

Don't forget dropping Russian as an official language as well. If we dropped Spanish in the same manner, you'd stroke out over outrage.

15,000? You mean during the Russian backed Donbass conflict after Crimea? How many troops and how many civilians? Which side were they fighting for?

Klam can't answer the question. Putin's a meany and I don't care about Ukrainians killing Ukrainians.

What cop out pussy answer.

[SeattleGriz]

15,000 killed for simply wanting to be left alone is far greater than the two laughable examples you came up with.

Don't forget dropping Russian as an official language as well. If we dropped Spanish in the same manner, you'd stroke out over outrage.

It could be argued that Chechen rebels just "wanted to be left alone". How many of them and Chechen civilians did russia kill? Estimated civilian deaths are 25,000-50,000. I don't consider that number "laughable". Why are you so callous about Chechen deaths but care so deeply about russian deaths?

Answer the question Klam #2. Why was it okay for Ukrainians to kill Ukrainians. Surely you can answer a direct question.

[UNI88]

It could be argued that Chechen rebels just "wanted to be left alone". How many of them and Chechen civilians did russia kill? Estimated civilian deaths are 25,000-50,000. I don't consider that number "laughable". Why are you so callous about Chechen deaths but care so deeply about russian deaths?

Answer the question Klam #2. Why was it okay for Ukrainians to kill Ukrainians. Surely you can answer a direct question.

Why was and is it okay for russians to kills russians?

What was and is it okay for the trump regime to kill Americans?

I can dodge a question just like you, I just don't do it nearly as frequently.

[SeattleGriz]

Answer the question Klam #2. Why was it okay for Ukrainians to kill Ukrainians. Surely you can answer a direct question.

Why was and is it okay for russians to kills russians?

What was and is it okay for the trump regime to kill Americans?

I can dodge a question just like you, I just don't do it nearly as frequently.

You always do and that was the first question I asked Klam, but now that you've stepped in and commented, why was it okay for Ukraine to kill its own Ukrainian citizens on the Russian border?

[UNI88]

Why was and is it okay for russians to kills russians?

What was and is it okay for the trump regime to kill Americans?

I can dodge a question just like you, I just don't do it nearly as frequently.

You always do and that was the first question I asked Klam, but now that you've stepped in and commented, why was it okay for Ukraine to kill its own Ukrainian citizens on the Russian border?

You're projecting.

[kalm]

15,000? You mean during the Russian backed Donbass conflict after Crimea? How many troops and how many civilians? Which side were they fighting for?

Klam can't answer the question. Putin's a meany and I don't care about Ukrainians killing Ukrainians.

What cop out pussy answer.

Did you ask a question here?

Pussy..

[SeattleGriz]

Klam can't answer the question. Putin's a meany and I don't care about Ukrainians killing Ukrainians.

What cop out pussy answer.

Did you ask a question here?

Pussy..

Yes, multiple times.

Why was it okay for the Ukrainian government to kill its own Russian speaking citizens? They only asked for autonomy. Didn't ask to separate. Why was that okay? Employed the closest thing to real Nazis to go after them.

[UNI88]

Did you ask a question here?

Pussy..

Yes, multiple times.

Why was it okay for the Ukrainian government to kill its own Russian speaking citizens? They only asked for autonomy. Didn't ask to separate. Why was that okay? Employed the closest thing to real Nazis to go after them.

They didn't "only ask for autonomy." They took up arms against their nation, they did "ask to separate" and the Donetsk People's Republic the Luhansk People's Republic attempted to declare independence in 2014.

[SeattleGriz]

Yes, multiple times.

Why was it okay for the Ukrainian government to kill its own Russian speaking citizens? They only asked for autonomy. Didn't ask to separate. Why was that okay? Employed the closest thing to real Nazis to go after them.

They didn't "only ask for autonomy." They took up arms against their nation, they did "ask to separate" and the Donetsk People's Republic the Luhansk People's Republic attempted to declare independence in 2014.

As usual, incorrect.

Let's walk down history lane. The US overthrew the pro Russian government. After that, the pro Ukrainian government started taking actions against Russian speaking population by removing Russian as an official language. Once again, if the US did this with Spanish, there wouldn't be a fainting couch big enough for you.

Then, during protests, the Kiev government green lighted the slaughter known as the Maidan Massacre (Kyiv, Feb 18-20, 2014). In addition, there were other killings like in Odessa by Ukrainian government direction.

The referendums conducted by the two self-proclaimed Republics of Donetsk and Lugansk in May 2014, were not referendums of “independence” (независимость), as some unscrupulous journalists have claimed, but referendums of “self-determination” or “autonomy” (самостоятельность).

So here we have a government that didn't even follow its own rules when getting rid of the pro Russian leader, followed by removing the Russian language as an official language and then killing its own citizens at protests. You know protests? Those things you say are required.

After this, because the Ukrainian military was in shambles Kiev resorted to hiring mercenaries that were as close to actual Nazis to go into the Donetsk and Lugansk to kill more of its own citizens.

[UNI88]

They didn't "only ask for autonomy." They took up arms against their nation, they did "ask to separate" and the Donetsk People's Republic the Luhansk People's Republic attempted to declare independence in 2014.

As usual, incorrect.

Let's walk down history lane. The US overthrew the pro Russian government. After that, the pro Ukrainian government started taking actions against Russian speaking population by removing Russian as an official language. Once again, if the US did this with Spanish, there wouldn't be a fainting couch big enough for you.

Then, during protests, the Kiev government green lighted the slaughter known as the Maidan Massacre (Kyiv, Feb 18-20, 2014). In addition, there were other killings like in Odessa by Ukrainian government direction.

The referendums conducted by the two self-proclaimed Republics of Donetsk and Lugansk in May 2014, were not referendums of “independence” (независимость), as some unscrupulous journalists have claimed, but referendums of “self-determination” or “autonomy” (самостоятельность).

So here we have a government that didn't even follow its own rules when getting rid of the pro Russian leader, followed by removing the Russian language as an official language and then killing its own citizens at protests. You know protests? Those things you say are required.

After this, because the Ukrainian military was in shambles Kiev resorted to hiring mercenaries that were as close to actual Nazis to go into the Donetsk and Lugansk to kill more of its own citizens.

Proof from a credible source that the "US overthrew the government"?

Was the law that took away the protections for the russian language signed? Did it take effect?

Show us the results of unbiased investigation(s) proving there was a national government order to slaughter protesters during the Maidan Massacre or in Odessa.

Regardless of your attempts to rewrite history, the political outcome pursued by the Donetsk People's Republic and Luhansk People's Republic was separation from Ukraine and alignment with Russia.

[SeattleGriz]

As usual, incorrect.

Let's walk down history lane. The US overthrew the pro Russian government. After that, the pro Ukrainian government started taking actions against Russian speaking population by removing Russian as an official language. Once again, if the US did this with Spanish, there wouldn't be a fainting couch big enough for you.

Then, during protests, the Kiev government green lighted the slaughter known as the Maidan Massacre (Kyiv, Feb 18-20, 2014). In addition, there were other killings like in Odessa by Ukrainian government direction.

The referendums conducted by the two self-proclaimed Republics of Donetsk and Lugansk in May 2014, were not referendums of “independence” (независимость), as some unscrupulous journalists have claimed, but referendums of “self-determination” or “autonomy” (самостоятельность).

So here we have a government that didn't even follow its own rules when getting rid of the pro Russian leader, followed by removing the Russian language as an official language and then killing its own citizens at protests. You know protests? Those things you say are required.

After this, because the Ukrainian military was in shambles Kiev resorted to hiring mercenaries that were as close to actual Nazis to go into the Donetsk and Lugansk to kill more of its own citizens.

Proof from a credible source that the "US overthrew the government"?

Was the law that took away the protections for the russian language signed? Did it take effect?

Show us the results of unbiased investigation(s) proving there was a national government order to slaughter protesters during the Maidan Massacre or in Odessa.

Regardless of your attempts to rewrite history, the political outcome pursued by the Donetsk People's Republic and Luhansk People's Republic was separation from Ukraine and alignment with Russia.

Separation is another one of your lies. You've never seen the document asking for autonomy have you? Of course you haven't. They simply asked to be left alone on the Eastern border with their long time neighbors and family.

Autonomy. Far different than being a Separatist. Do you now understand why they are falsely labeled as such? Makes them sound like they deserve Naziesque mercenaries sicced on them. You know, the shit you support.

Proof the US overthrew? Jesus Christ. Do you not understand why I was giving CID shit about Nuland? Leaked telephone call of her saying "Fuck the EU" in regard to who was going to replace the pro Russian leader. The whole world agrees with the US overthrowing the leader.

[UNI88]

Proof from a credible source that the "US overthrew the government"?

Was the law that took away the protections for the russian language signed? Did it take effect?

Show us the results of unbiased investigation(s) proving there was a national government order to slaughter protesters during the Maidan Massacre or in Odessa.

Regardless of your attempts to rewrite history, the political outcome pursued by the Donetsk People's Republic and Luhansk People's Republic was separation from Ukraine and alignment with Russia.

Separation is another one of your lies. You've never seen the document asking for autonomy have you? Of course you haven't. They simply asked to be left alone on the Eastern border with their long time neighbors and family.

Autonomy. Far different than being a Separatist. Do you now understand why they are falsely labeled as such? Makes them sound like they deserve Naziesque mercenaries sicced on them. You know, the shit you support.

Proof the US overthrew? Jesus Christ. Do you not understand why I was giving CID shit about Nuland? Leaked telephone call of her saying "Fuck the EU" in regard to who was going to replace the pro Russian leader. The whole world agrees with the US overthrowing the leader.

The word самостоятельность has a range of meanings. However, the actual political outcome sought and achieved by the DPR/LPR was de facto separation and Russian alignment, regardless of the referendum wording. Actions speak louder than words.

Nuland expressed a preference for Yatsenyuk. That's evidence of US influence, which is real and worth acknowledging. It is not evidence of the US orchestrating the removal of Yanukovych.

The real grievances of russian speakers don't justify armed separatism, and they certainly doesn't retroactively justify Russia's 2022 full-scale invasion,

Provide links if you have actual proof/evidence of your allegations rather than rumors and innuendo.