GOP Needs To Man Up & Confront Sarah Palin

[Ivytalk]

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Your OPINION of what the GOP OUGHT to do does NOT line up with the definition of "need."

What kind of psychobabble is this?

[youngterrier]

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Your OPINION of what the GOP OUGHT to do does NOT line up with the definition of "need."

What kind of psychobabble is this?

cocaine is one heck of a drug

[Ivytalk]

"Strappeth on thy royal codpiece and have at that tawdry Alaskan wench!" -- Arthur, King of the Britons

Now, DAT'S what I'm talkin' 'bout!

[native]

two things:
1. if TX isn't in the GOP's hip pocket it's over before it starts... they'll go GOP no matter what
2. Perry has enough skeletons they're running around eating leftovers out of his fridge...
3. smarmy doesn't work with a GOP base weened on Bush/McCain/Palin/Rand Paul... too slick and they hate you (see Coleman, Norm)

Oh, good LORD. The dumb 54% of Americans elected an acknowledged drug user with questionable US citizenship, questionable religious background and ties to a terrorist simply because he's a great speech-reader. What skeletons can Perry possibly have that top THAT?

Finally ... truth.

Same principle applies to Palin. She not perfect, but she remains better than One Big Assed Mistake ... America!

[native]

"Strappeth on thy royal codpiece and have at that tawdry Alaskan wench!" -- Arthur, King of the Britons

Now, DAT'S what I'm talkin' 'bout!

Dismissing main street and Tea Party sentiment in all the red states between the coasts is not the proper way to deal with Palin. She must be embraced and her issues respected. Anything less by you country club Republicans guarantees the disaster you fear.

[Col Hogan]

And I still like Mitch Daniels.

+1

[93henfan]

Christie...

+1

If the Republicans in Delaware had listened to Christie (and me) instead of the teabagger wackos, they'd have one more seat in the US Senate right now:

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[SuperHornet]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Maslo ... _Needs.svg

Your OPINION of what the GOP OUGHT to do does NOT line up with the definition of "need."

What kind of psychobabble is this?

Appa's OPINION does NOT translate into the GOP's NEED. What's more straightforward than that? I could say you "need" to go jump in a lake, but that wouldn't make it a true need. Simply my opinion. Same thing applies here. Appa is not the judge of the "needs" of the Republican Party.

[BlueHen86]

"Strappeth on thy royal codpiece and have at that tawdry Alaskan wench!" -- Arthur, King of the Britons

Now, DAT'S what I'm talkin' 'bout!

Dismissing main street and Tea Party sentiment in all the red states between the coasts is not the proper way to deal with Palin. She must be embraced and her issues respected. Anything less by you country club Republicans guarantees the disaster you fear.

I think it's that attitude that guarantees disaster (although I'd be okay giving her a physical embrace ). The sooner people stop taking her seriously the sooner she'll go away. The GOP is divided right now and she isn't the person to unite it. I don't know who is, but it isn't her. Let's hope the GOP can find someone electable in the next two years or we get four more years of Obama.

[BlueHen86]

What kind of psychobabble is this?

Appa's OPINION does NOT translate into the GOP's NEED. What's more straightforward than that? I could say you "need" to go jump in a lake, but that wouldn't make it a true need. Simply my opinion. Same thing applies here. Appa is not the judge of the "needs" of the Republican Party.

We need you to jump in a lake.

[native]

Dismissing main street and Tea Party sentiment in all the red states between the coasts is not the proper way to deal with Palin. She must be embraced and her issues respected. Anything less by you country club Republicans guarantees the disaster you fear.

I think it's that attitude that guarantees disaster (although I'd be okay giving her a physical embrace ). The sooner people stop taking her seriously the sooner she'll go away. The GOP is divided right now and she isn't the person to unite it. I don't know who is, but it isn't her. Let's hope the GOP can find someone electable in the next two years or we get four more years of Obama.

You must separate the person from the issues. She is a legitimate representative of the hopes and aspirations of millions of voters. Even as a person Palin is not as bad as the vast majority of Dem pols, but she is not my first choice any more than she is the first choice of the majority on this thread.

However, making Palin the object of derision and dismissing her and will make her a martyr of sorts and be counterproductive. The success of Republicans is truly in the hands of the eastern establishment and country club types. If they treat Palin like Mike Castle treated O'Donnel, we are all doomed.

[BlueHen86]

I think it's that attitude that guarantees disaster (although I'd be okay giving her a physical embrace ). The sooner people stop taking her seriously the sooner she'll go away. The GOP is divided right now and she isn't the person to unite it. I don't know who is, but it isn't her. Let's hope the GOP can find someone electable in the next two years or we get four more years of Obama.

You must separate the person from the issues. She is a legitimate representative of the hopes and aspirations of millions of voters. Even as a person Palin is not as bad as the vast majority of Dem pols, but she is not my first choice any more than she is the first choice of the majority on this thread.

However, making Palin the object of derision and dismissing her and will make her a martyr of sorts and be counterproductive. The success of Republicans is truly in the hands of the eastern establishment and country club types. If they treat Palin like Mike Castle treated O'Donnel, we are all doomed.

I agree regarding the issues, which is why I didn't bold that part of your statement. I don't think the GOP should deride her (the Dems will do that), I just think that they need to distance themselves from her as quickly and politely as they can. If she recognizes that she can't win the nomination, but still wants to be a player I think there is is a place in the GOP for her. I get the sense, however, that she plans on running and that will be a disaster and should be discouraged.

[native]

You must separate the person from the issues. She is a legitimate representative of the hopes and aspirations of millions of voters. Even as a person Palin is not as bad as the vast majority of Dem pols, but she is not my first choice any more than she is the first choice of the majority on this thread.

However, making Palin the object of derision and dismissing her and will make her a martyr of sorts and be counterproductive. The success of Republicans is truly in the hands of the eastern establishment and country club types. If they treat Palin like Mike Castle treated O'Donnel, we are all doomed.

I agree regarding the issues, which is why I didn't bold that part of your statement. I don't think the GOP should deride her (the Dems will do that), I just think that they need to distance themselves from her as quickly and politely as they can. If she recognizes that she can't win the nomination, but still wants to be a player I think there is is a place in the GOP for her. I get the sense, however, that she plans on running and that will be a disaster and should be discouraged.

I think we are missing an important point here. Someone like Sarah Palin exists ONLY because of massive failures of leadership, discipline and honor among traditional Repub pols. They must "come to Jesus," so to speak.

[BlueHen86]

I agree regarding the issues, which is why I didn't bold that part of your statement. I don't think the GOP should deride her (the Dems will do that), I just think that they need to distance themselves from her as quickly and politely as they can. If she recognizes that she can't win the nomination, but still wants to be a player I think there is is a place in the GOP for her. I get the sense, however, that she plans on running and that will be a disaster and should be discouraged.

I think we are missing an important point here. Someone like Sarah Palin exists ONLY because of massive failures of leadership, discipline and honor among traditional Repub pols. They must "come to Jesus," so to speak.

Kinda like Hitler.

[SuperHornet]

Appa's OPINION does NOT translate into the GOP's NEED. What's more straightforward than that? I could say you "need" to go jump in a lake, but that wouldn't make it a true need. Simply my opinion. Same thing applies here. Appa is not the judge of the "needs" of the Republican Party.

We need you to jump in a lake.

So if Appa said, "86, go do something anatomically impossible," you'd do it?

[native]

I think we are missing an important point here. Someone like Sarah Palin exists ONLY because of massive failures of leadership, discipline and honor among traditional Repub pols. They must "come to Jesus," so to speak.

Kinda like Hitler.

Nope, but ...

[native]

+1

If the Republicans in Delaware had listened to Christie (and me) instead of the teabagger wackos, they'd have one more seat in the US Senate right now:

[youtube][/youtube]

I prefer Chris Christie, too, but he did not win by being a pompous, aloof ass. If Mike Castle had communicated to the Republican base in a civilized manner instead of deriding O'Donnel, he would be the Senator elect. You and Mike's attitudes are the problem. It is within your power to correct the problem by treating Tea Partiers with respect and gaining their trust and support - which Mike Casstle could easily have done. ...or you can remain high and mighty and lose.

[BlueHen86]

If the Republicans in Delaware had listened to Christie (and me) instead of the teabagger wackos, they'd have one more seat in the US Senate right now:

[youtube][/youtube]

I prefer Chris Christie, too, but he did not win by being a pompous, aloof ass. If Mike Castle had communicated to the Republican base in a civilized manner instead of deriding O'Donnel, he would be the Senator elect. You and Mike's attitudes are the problem. It is within your power to correct the problem by treating Tea Partiers with respect and gaining their trust and support - which Mike Casstle could easily have done. ...or you can remain high and mighty and lose.

The problem lies with the Tea Partiers who back unelectable, and in some cases wacko, candidates. Castle's problem was that he underestimated the stupidity of the Delaware Tea Baggers.

[Ivytalk]

I think it's that attitude that guarantees disaster (although I'd be okay giving her a physical embrace ). The sooner people stop taking her seriously the sooner she'll go away. The GOP is divided right now and she isn't the person to unite it. I don't know who is, but it isn't her. Let's hope the GOP can find someone electable in the next two years or we get four more years of Obama.

You must separate the person from the issues. She is a legitimate representative of the hopes and aspirations of millions of voters. Even as a person Palin is not as bad as the vast majority of Dem pols, but she is not my first choice any more than she is the first choice of the majority on this thread.

However, making Palin the object of derision and dismissing her and will make her a martyr of sorts and be counterproductive. The success of Republicans is truly in the hands of the eastern establishment and country club types. If they treat Palin like Mike Castle treated O'Donnel, we are all doomed.

First of all, native, I would never belong to any "country club" that would have me as a member! Second, and seriously, I reject Palin's know-nothing approach to politics. You can be a conservative and intellectual to boot, or at least not flagrantly anti-intellectual. Palin, O'Donnell and their ilk are giving conservatism a bad name by depriving it of its seriousness and rational approach to public policy. As someone earlier in this thread pointed out, she's just a celebrity, and an unusually shallow one at that.

[Sarah Palin]

I think it's that attitude that guarantees disaster (although I'd be okay giving her a physical embrace ). The sooner people stop taking her seriously the sooner she'll go away. The GOP is divided right now and she isn't the person to unite it. I don't know who is, but it isn't her. Let's hope the GOP can find someone electable in the next two years or we get four more years of Obama.

You must separate the person from the issues. She is a legitimate representative of the hopes and aspirations of millions of voters. Even as a person Palin is not as bad as the vast majority of Dem pols, but she is not my first choice any more than she is the first choice of the majority on this thread.

However, making Palin the object of derision and dismissing her and will make her a martyr of sorts and be counterproductive. The success of Republicans is truly in the hands of the eastern establishment and country club types. If they treat Palin like Mike Castle treated O'Donnel, we are all doomed.

I love you Native.

[BlueHen86]

We need you to jump in a lake.

So if Appa said, "86, go do something anatomically impossible," you'd do it?

No, because he didn't tell me that I needed to.

You need to get a sense of humor.

[Pwns]

What man or mouse with a fully functioning human brain and a résumé as thin as Palin’s would flirt with a presidential run? It makes the political biography of Barack Obama look more like Winston Churchill’s, despite the fact that the 44th president breezed into the Oval Office as little more than a glorified state senator.....

Is this a joke?

[native]

I prefer Chris Christie, too, but he did not win by being a pompous, aloof ass. If Mike Castle had communicated to the Republican base in a civilized manner instead of deriding O'Donnel, he would be the Senator elect. You and Mike's attitudes are the problem. It is within your power to correct the problem by treating Tea Partiers with respect and gaining their trust and support - which Mike Casstle could easily have done. ...or you can remain high and mighty and lose.

The problem lies with the Tea Partiers who back unelectable, and in some cases wacko, candidates. Castle's problem was that he underestimated the stupidity of the Delaware Tea Baggers.

We do not disagree on your point! But the solution is not to deride the Tea Party or their candidates, which guarantees failure for the center-right.

You seem to assume that the Tea Party is incapable of learning from their mistakes. I disagree. They must be embraced and co-opted. The establishment types must acknowledge their mistakes and move towards the Tea Party.

[native]

You must separate the person from the issues. She is a legitimate representative of the hopes and aspirations of millions of voters. Even as a person Palin is not as bad as the vast majority of Dem pols, but she is not my first choice any more than she is the first choice of the majority on this thread.

However, making Palin the object of derision and dismissing her and will make her a martyr of sorts and be counterproductive. The success of Republicans is truly in the hands of the eastern establishment and country club types. If they treat Palin like Mike Castle treated O'Donnel, we are all doomed.

First of all, native, I would never belong to any "country club" that would have me as a member! Second, and seriously, I reject Palin's know-nothing approach to politics. You can be a conservative and intellectual to boot, or at least not flagrantly anti-intellectual. Palin, O'Donnell and their ilk are giving conservatism a bad name by depriving it of its seriousness and rational approach to public policy. As someone earlier in this thread pointed out, she's just a celebrity, and an unusually shallow one at that.

I was hoping that post might elicit a response from you, IT!

While it is absurd to call Palin flagrantly anti-intellectual, neither is Palin an intellectual giant. She is run-of-the-mill intellectually for a politician. O'Donnel is unusually shallow, but Palin is not.

It is corruption and lack of discipline that has given conservatism a bad name, NOT Sarah Palin!

Sarah Palin is bright, charismatic, moderately experienced, and has taken advantage of her celebrity and adoring crowds to jump to the head of the line without the gravitas and accomplishments we might prefer. Her opportunity came only because of the corruption and lack of fiscal discipline among traditional Republican politicians, who must eat large quantities of humble pie and demonstrate believable levels of epiphany before they can or should be taken seriously by Palin, the Tea Party or Main Street Republicans.

Palin is not without achievement. Why do you dou dismiss her legitimate accomplishments as governor in challenging both the corruption of the traditional Republican pay-for-play culture in Alaska and the idiocy of the left-wing-nut culture? Sure, there are political arenas larger than Wasilla and the state of Alaska, but she came to the table with greater legitimate life accomplishments than did Obama.

No, Palin does NOT make Obama look like a Churchill. Internalizing and relentlessly regurgitating anti-American communist coffee klatch dogma does not make Obama or anyone else an intellectual, although it passes for most of the political class.

I agree that Palin is not the person to unite the GOP, but attacking Palin is not the answer.

[Appaholic]

What man or mouse with a fully functioning human brain and a résumé as thin as Palin’s would flirt with a presidential run? It makes the political biography of Barack Obama look more like Winston Churchill’s, despite the fact that the 44th president breezed into the Oval Office as little more than a glorified state senator.....

Is this a joke?

No, it's the opinion of former Republican Florida Representative Joe Scarborough....