No TV = Sellout?

ronbo · Post by **ronbo** » Mon Nov 28, 2011 4:46 am

Montana might get a few thousand extra in the stands because of the lack of coverage. Good or bad for the University?

89Hen · Post by **89Hen** » Mon Nov 28, 2011 8:33 am

Bad. You normally get a pretty good crowd and TV coverage is a bonus for any school.

89Hen · Post by **89Hen** » Mon Nov 28, 2011 8:58 am

Are there no games this week on TV??

Post by **93henfan** » Mon Nov 28, 2011 9:00 am

89Hen wrote:Are there no games this week on TV??

ESPN3 only.

89Hen · Post by **89Hen** » Mon Nov 28, 2011 9:02 am

93henfan wrote:
89Hen wrote:Are there no games this week on TV??
ESPN3 only.

WTF?

Post by **TwinTownBisonFan** » Mon Nov 28, 2011 10:27 am

89Hen wrote:
93henfan wrote:
ESPN3 only.
WTF?

I'm going to say this in every damn thread until it sinks in.

MORE PEOPLE HAVE ESPN3 THAN HAVE ESPNU!

The fact that the ENTIRE slate of playoff games will be broadcast is a big win for FCS - you'll have to forgive ESPN for running programming that gets better ratings on their broadcast networks I guess...

While I agree that their coverage of FCS still sucks out loud - and could be improved with even a tiny bit of effort - like an online-only weekly FCS show and just ONE writer/blogger to cover the entire division... but they are SHOWING the games - which is a big improvement over 10 years ago.

Post by **93henfan** » Mon Nov 28, 2011 10:31 am

TwinTownBisonFan wrote:
89Hen wrote: WTF?
I'm going to say this in every damn thread until it sinks in.

MORE PEOPLE HAVE ESPN3 THAN HAVE ESPNU!

The fact that the ENTIRE slate of playoff games will be broadcast is a big win for FCS - you'll have to forgive ESPN for running programming that gets better ratings on their broadcast networks I guess...

While I agree that their coverage of FCS still sucks out loud - and could be improved with even a tiny bit of effort - like an online-only weekly FCS show and just ONE writer/blogger to cover the entire division... but they are SHOWING the games - which is a big improvement over 10 years ago.

Yeah, but for those of us who live in non-wilderness areas and have ESPNU, we'd rather be able to simply turn on our TV and watch than worry about buying the requisite cables, hooking up our computer to our HDTV, and then sitting through the inevitable hiccups that go along with streaming.

89Hen · Post by **89Hen** » Mon Nov 28, 2011 10:31 am

TwinTownBisonFan wrote:
89Hen wrote: WTF?
I'm going to say this in every damn thread until it sinks in.

MORE PEOPLE HAVE ESPN3 THAN HAVE ESPNU!

The fact that the ENTIRE slate of playoff games will be broadcast is a big win for FCS - you'll have to forgive ESPN for running programming that gets better ratings on their broadcast networks I guess...

While I agree that their coverage of FCS still sucks out loud - and could be improved with even a tiny bit of effort - like an online-only weekly FCS show and just ONE writer/blogger to cover the entire division... but they are SHOWING the games - which is a big improvement over 10 years ago.

Should have at least one game on 2.

Post by **TwinTownBisonFan** » Mon Nov 28, 2011 10:41 am

89Hen wrote:
TwinTownBisonFan wrote:
I'm going to say this in every damn thread until it sinks in.

MORE PEOPLE HAVE ESPN3 THAN HAVE ESPNU!

The fact that the ENTIRE slate of playoff games will be broadcast is a big win for FCS - you'll have to forgive ESPN for running programming that gets better ratings on their broadcast networks I guess...

While I agree that their coverage of FCS still sucks out loud - and could be improved with even a tiny bit of effort - like an online-only weekly FCS show and just ONE writer/blogger to cover the entire division... but they are SHOWING the games - which is a big improvement over 10 years ago.
Should have at least one game on 2.

Not for nothing - but why would a network with billions invested in the Bowl system promote the playoffs? It's not in their interest to show mid-major level teams playing in early playoff games - when instead they can show the C-USA title game, UConn/Cincy, Syracuse/Pitt, Arkansas/UConn hoops, Illinois/Gonzaga hoops, Texas/Baylor, Pitt/Tennessee hoops, USF/Kansas hoops, the ACC Championship, the Big 10 Championship and BYU/Hawaii

ALL of those things (their schedule for Saturday) are better for ratings than FCS football. That's a fact.

GannonFan · Post by **GannonFan** » Mon Nov 28, 2011 10:42 am

93henfan wrote:
TwinTownBisonFan wrote:
I'm going to say this in every damn thread until it sinks in.

MORE PEOPLE HAVE ESPN3 THAN HAVE ESPNU!

The fact that the ENTIRE slate of playoff games will be broadcast is a big win for FCS - you'll have to forgive ESPN for running programming that gets better ratings on their broadcast networks I guess...

While I agree that their coverage of FCS still sucks out loud - and could be improved with even a tiny bit of effort - like an online-only weekly FCS show and just ONE writer/blogger to cover the entire division... but they are SHOWING the games - which is a big improvement over 10 years ago.
Yeah, but for those of us who live in non-wilderness areas and have ESPNU, we'd rather be able to simply turn on our TV and watch than worry about buying the requisite cables, hooking up our computer to our HDTV, and then sitting through the inevitable hiccups that go along with streaming.

Eh, I just watch them on the laptop - I can get by watching football on a 17" screen. And it frees up my TV to watch even more football games. And under this system, I get to watch every FCS playoff game. I had never seen Central Arkansas or Tenn Tech before last weekend and gosh darnit, if it wasn't really exciting (sarcastic) to get to see them duke it out!

Post by **Grizalltheway** » Mon Nov 28, 2011 10:47 am

93henfan wrote:
TwinTownBisonFan wrote:
I'm going to say this in every damn thread until it sinks in.

MORE PEOPLE HAVE ESPN3 THAN HAVE ESPNU!

The fact that the ENTIRE slate of playoff games will be broadcast is a big win for FCS - you'll have to forgive ESPN for running programming that gets better ratings on their broadcast networks I guess...

While I agree that their coverage of FCS still sucks out loud - and could be improved with even a tiny bit of effort - like an online-only weekly FCS show and just ONE writer/blogger to cover the entire division... but they are SHOWING the games - which is a big improvement over 10 years ago.
Yeah, but for those of us who live in non-wilderness areas and have ESPNU, we'd rather be able to simply turn on our TV and watch than worry about buying the requisite cables, hooking up our computer to our HDTV, and then sitting through the inevitable hiccups that go along with streaming.

Why not just drive the 50 miles/3 hours with traffic to Townson and watch that game?

89Hen · Post by **89Hen** » Mon Nov 28, 2011 10:50 am

TwinTownBisonFan wrote:Illinois/Gonzaga hoops... USF/Kansas hoops

ALL of those things (their schedule for Saturday) are better for ratings than FCS football. That's a fact.

Not sure that's a fact.

Post by **TwinTownBisonFan** » Mon Nov 28, 2011 11:10 am

89Hen wrote:
TwinTownBisonFan wrote:Illinois/Gonzaga hoops... USF/Kansas hoops

ALL of those things (their schedule for Saturday) are better for ratings than FCS football. That's a fact.
Not sure that's a fact.

Kansas basketball is a name brand.

Illinois/Gonzaga - might be rivaled by the best FCS game next week (Ga So/ODU or App/Maine) but I'd wager that put head-to-head, the hoops game wins out.

89Hen · Post by **89Hen** » Mon Nov 28, 2011 11:44 am

TwinTownBisonFan wrote:Kansas basketball is a name brand.

It is, but USF is not.

Post by **grizzaholic** » Mon Nov 28, 2011 12:37 pm

TwinTownBisonFan wrote:
89Hen wrote: WTF?
I'm going to say this in every damn thread until it sinks in.

MORE PEOPLE HAVE ESPN3 THAN HAVE ESPNU!

The fact that the ENTIRE slate of playoff games will be broadcast is a big win for FCS - you'll have to forgive ESPN for running programming that gets better ratings on their broadcast networks I guess...

While I agree that their coverage of FCS still sucks out loud - and could be improved with even a tiny bit of effort - like an online-only weekly FCS show and just ONE writer/blogger to cover the entire division... but they are SHOWING the games - which is a big improvement over 10 years ago.

And I am going to tell you to go fuck yourself. I have gameplan and ESPNU and am pissed that I cannot DVR the Griz game and not watch any other FCS games. Take your fucking opinions and shove them up your dickhole while you gargle Lakes' ball bag and JBB rams a pool cue up your ass.

DoubleNicks · Post by **DoubleNicks** » Mon Nov 28, 2011 12:39 pm

TwinTownBisonFan wrote: I'm going to say this in every damn thread until it sinks in.

MORE PEOPLE HAVE ESPN3 THAN HAVE ESPNU!

The fact that the ENTIRE slate of playoff games will be broadcast is a big win for FCS - you'll have to forgive ESPN for running programming that gets better ratings on their broadcast networks I guess...

While I agree that their coverage of FCS still sucks out loud - and could be improved with even a tiny bit of effort - like an online-only weekly FCS show and just ONE writer/blogger to cover the entire division... but they are SHOWING the games - which is a big improvement over 10 years ago.

I understand you being sympathetic to ESPN (we do live in a free market economy and service providers can choose about whatever they would like to sell, just like as consumers we aren't forced to purchase services/products we don't want).

However, what's amusing is that ESPN is already investing in broadcasting these games by sending camera crews, etc. to the game sites yet is not offering a Pay-Per-View option or selling partial rights to local stations. From their perspective, that is a lot of potential revenue they are missing (and like I said, they already have the expenses by putting it on their online site).

As for just being happy about getting any exposure at all, don't fool yourself. How many non-FCS fans are going to go out of there way to login to ESPN3 and once there, actually choose a FCS game when there are big name programs to choose from as well? At least when Montana or Montana State broadcast a game on the CBS or ABC affiliate stations the visiting team's town should be able to pick them up, as well. I would take that exposure over the "national" exposure of 10 people being bored enough on the ESPN3 site to decide to switch over to a FCS game.

Dukie95 · Post by **Dukie95** » Mon Nov 28, 2011 12:40 pm

93henfan wrote:
TwinTownBisonFan wrote:
I'm going to say this in every damn thread until it sinks in.

MORE PEOPLE HAVE ESPN3 THAN HAVE ESPNU!

The fact that the ENTIRE slate of playoff games will be broadcast is a big win for FCS - you'll have to forgive ESPN for running programming that gets better ratings on their broadcast networks I guess...

While I agree that their coverage of FCS still sucks out loud - and could be improved with even a tiny bit of effort - like an online-only weekly FCS show and just ONE writer/blogger to cover the entire division... but they are SHOWING the games - which is a big improvement over 10 years ago.
Yeah, but for those of us who live in non-wilderness areas and have ESPNU, we'd rather be able to simply turn on our TV and watch than worry about buying the requisite cables, hooking up our computer to our HDTV, and then sitting through the inevitable hiccups that go along with streaming.

Not saying it's worth rushing out and getting one, but...just a public service note...

If you have a compatible internet provider, an X-Box console streams ESPN3 games. You can watch it on your TV without all the cabling and stuff...

Post by **Grizalltheway** » Mon Nov 28, 2011 12:46 pm

Dukie95 wrote:
93henfan wrote:
Yeah, but for those of us who live in non-wilderness areas and have ESPNU, we'd rather be able to simply turn on our TV and watch than worry about buying the requisite cables, hooking up our computer to our HDTV, and then sitting through the inevitable hiccups that go along with streaming.
Not saying it's worth rushing out and getting one, but...just a public service note...

If you have a compatible internet provider, an X-Box console streams ESPN3 games. You can watch it on your TV without all the cabling and stuff...

Stilll have to have and ISP that provides it...

And grizza, hit up clenz to get your shit remote linked, works like a charm for me.

Post by **grizzaholic** » Mon Nov 28, 2011 1:14 pm

Grizalltheway wrote:
Dukie95 wrote:
Not saying it's worth rushing out and getting one, but...just a public service note...

If you have a compatible internet provider, an X-Box console streams ESPN3 games. You can watch it on your TV without all the cabling and stuff...
Stilll have to have and ISP that provides it...

And grizza, hit up clenz to get your shit remote linked, works like a charm for me.

OK. Then I can link it to my DVR to record....hope it works.

putter · Post by **putter** » Mon Nov 28, 2011 1:38 pm

If ESPN is sending a crew to produce the game don't you think they would want to promote it. No FCS playoff game is going to replace a BCS bowel game but the more viewers that ESPN can get the more they can charge advertisers which is where the money is at.

GannonFan · Post by **GannonFan** » Mon Nov 28, 2011 2:02 pm

putter wrote:If ESPN is sending a crew to produce the game don't you think they would want to promote it. No FCS playoff game is going to replace a BCS bowel game but the more viewers that ESPN can get the more they can charge advertisers which is where the money is at.

How much does it cost for ESPN to send out a crew? I'd imagine they could get a local outift to do it and just stamp ESPN on it for the most part. And they do already make money on it - the fact that ISP's offer ESPN3 already is where they make money - people like Verizon and the hundred or so other ISP's that carry ESPN3 already pay ESPN for the rights to the channel. All ESPN has to do is promise to keep the viewing options on ESPN3 filled, and FCS games are one way to do that. If they made the feed available to local outlets, the ISP's would probably complain that they paid this money to carry ESPN3 and now people who would watch it over the ISP are getting to watch it on TV, which may be coming from someone else.

Dukie95 · Post by **Dukie95** » Mon Nov 28, 2011 2:06 pm

and you know ESPN would love it if everyone in Montana knocked on the door of their ISP and demanded ESPN3.

jcu27 · Post by **jcu27** » Mon Nov 28, 2011 4:48 pm

Someone needs to get ahold of an Afghani and tell em to fly a plan right into the ESPN builing.

Post by **grizzaholic** » Mon Nov 28, 2011 4:50 pm

jcu27 wrote:Someone needs to get ahold of an Afghani and tell em to fly a plan right into the ESPN builing.

Might be just a tad bit over the top.

Post by **Grizalltheway** » Mon Nov 28, 2011 4:52 pm

grizzaholic wrote:
jcu27 wrote:Someone needs to get ahold of an Afghani and tell em to fly a plan right into the ESPN builing.
Might be just a tad bit over the top.

Also it's Saudis who specialize in that kind of thing.

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