Tebow To Be Trumped..

Post by **Wedgebuster** » Fri Mar 16, 2012 7:13 am

Broncos owner Pat Bowlen's jet is enroute to Raleigh, NC as I type...

espn a-buzz, is this a Chilly/Favre moment??

Anyway, nice run there Timmy Teabag, back to the bench or elsewhere with you!

Post by **dbackjon** » Fri Mar 16, 2012 8:00 am

And who is in Raliegh?

Post by **Wedgebuster** » Fri Mar 16, 2012 8:26 am

dbackjon wrote:And who is in Raliegh?

Why Peyton Manonboy of course, who else?

SuperHornet · Post by **SuperHornet** » Fri Mar 16, 2012 9:41 am

Come on, Wedgie. This is nothing more than a second interview. He'll probably do the same with one or two of the other places he's visited before he makes his decision.

Besides, I'm not sure the Broncos have enough weapons to make it worth Manning's time unless they convince him that they'll have enough cache after signing him to get some receivers in free agency. Eric Decker isn't going to be enough.

Post by **TwinTownBisonFan** » Fri Mar 16, 2012 10:15 am

SuperHornet wrote:Come on, Wedgie. This is nothing more than a second interview. He'll probably do the same with one or two of the other places he's visited before he makes his decision.

Besides, I'm not sure the Broncos have enough weapons to make it worth Manning's time unless they convince him that they'll have enough cache after signing him to get some receivers in free agency. Eric Decker isn't going to be enough.

Manning has made a career out making decent receivers in to all-pros...

Pierre Garcon anyone?

(this excludes Marvin Harrison who would have been good anywhere... but Payton made a potential HoFer)

89Hen · Post by **89Hen** » Fri Mar 16, 2012 10:38 am

Wedgebuster wrote:Anyway, nice run there Timmy Teabag, back to the bench or elsewhere with you!

Why the hate?

Post by **grizzaholic** » Fri Mar 16, 2012 10:39 am

89Hen wrote:
Wedgebuster wrote:Anyway, nice run there Timmy Teabag, back to the bench or elsewhere with you!

Why the hate?

Because he is NOT a good QB and should have never ever gotten the job.

Post by **Grizalltheway** » Fri Mar 16, 2012 10:55 am

89Hen wrote:
Wedgebuster wrote:Anyway, nice run there Timmy Teabag, back to the bench or elsewhere with you!

Why the hate?

I could ask the same of you and porn, bub.

89Hen · Post by **89Hen** » Fri Mar 16, 2012 11:28 am

Grizalltheway wrote:
89Hen wrote: Why the hate?
I could ask the same of you and porn, bub.

How so? Where did I say I hated it? You might want to read that thread again.

89Hen · Post by **89Hen** » Fri Mar 16, 2012 11:32 am

grizzaholic wrote:
89Hen wrote: Why the hate?
Because he is NOT a good QB and should have never ever gotten the job.

Not buying that. Sam Bradford had a worse passer rating, but not only do I not see any hate for him, he's often talked about fondly as the future of the Rams and an up and coming young QB.

Post by **Vidav** » Fri Mar 16, 2012 11:38 am

89Hen wrote:
grizzaholic wrote:
Because he is NOT a good QB and should have never ever gotten the job.
Not buying that. Sam Bradford had a worse passer rating, but not only do I not see any hate for him, he's often talked about fondly as the future of the Rams and an up and coming young QB.

Passer rating is not really a good stat to base their comparison on.

Chad Pennington has the #12 career passer rating and he isn't exactly great.

Romo has the #2 and people complain about him constantly.

SuperHornet · Post by **SuperHornet** » Fri Mar 16, 2012 11:40 am

Vidav wrote:
89Hen wrote: Not buying that. Sam Bradford had a worse passer rating, but not only do I not see any hate for him, he's often talked about fondly as the future of the Rams and an up and coming young QB.

Passer rating is not really a good stat to base their comparison on.

Chad Pennington has the #12 career passer rating and he isn't exactly great.

Romo has the #2 and people complain about him constantly.

It's also so complicated as to be of no practical use. Just as a comparison, ERA for a baseball pitcher is MUCH easier to understand.

Post by **Grizalltheway** » Fri Mar 16, 2012 11:46 am

89Hen wrote:
Grizalltheway wrote: I could ask the same of you and porn, bub.
How so? Where did I say I hated it? You might want to read that thread again.

I said I COULD, not that I SHOULD.

89Hen · Post by **89Hen** » Fri Mar 16, 2012 11:48 am

Grizalltheway wrote:
89Hen wrote: How so? Where did I say I hated it? You might want to read that thread again.
I said I COULD, not that I SHOULD.

89Hen · Post by **89Hen** » Fri Mar 16, 2012 11:55 am

Vidav wrote:
89Hen wrote: Not buying that. Sam Bradford had a worse passer rating, but not only do I not see any hate for him, he's often talked about fondly as the future of the Rams and an up and coming young QB.

Passer rating is not really a good stat to base their comparison on.

Chad Pennington has the #12 career passer rating and he isn't exactly great.

Romo has the #2 and people complain about him constantly.

Do you think Sam Bradford has been a better QB than Tebow?

Bradford is 8-18 in two seasons, has a lower passer rating, and has 89 total rushing yards.

SuperHornet · Post by **SuperHornet** » Fri Mar 16, 2012 11:58 am

I think that was Vidav's point, 89. People consider Bradford to be a "savior" of sorts for StL, but he's not up to par with Tebow in terms of production. Pennington cranked out incidental numbers, but couldn't produce the important one: wins.

I think the takeaway here is that passer rating is a contrived stat that doesn't mean much in the "real world."

VictorG · Post by **VictorG** » Fri Mar 16, 2012 12:01 pm

grizzaholic wrote:
89Hen wrote: Why the hate?
Because he is NOT a good QB and should have never ever gotten the job.

I second this!

He surprised people last year with some qualities they were not expecting.....like luck!

He will not have the same good fortune again. Unless he learns to pass the football he's done....

SuperHornet · Post by **SuperHornet** » Fri Mar 16, 2012 12:10 pm

Since when is passing the be-all and end-all of playing QB? An ability to read defenses and select audibles is MUCH more important, and Tebow greatly improved in that area as last season progressed.

BTW, Manning in Denver still isn't a done deal. The Whiners have emerged as another potential suitor now that they've signed that punk Randy Moss.

http://www.news10.net/news/local/story. ... yid=184607

89Hen · Post by **89Hen** » Fri Mar 16, 2012 12:30 pm

SuperHornet wrote:I think that was Vidav's point, 89. People consider Bradford to be a "savior" of sorts for StL, but he's not up to par with Tebow in terms of production. Pennington cranked out incidental numbers, but couldn't produce the important one: wins.

I think the takeaway here is that passer rating is a contrived stat that doesn't mean much in the "real world."

Huh? That was MY point. Tebow has more wins, better passer rating, better TD/INT ratio, far more rushing yards... Tebow is the better QB right now. You can argue that you think Bradford has more potential, but that's 100% speculation at this point.

Look, I wouldn't want Tebow as my team's QB either, but I just think all the hate is because of 1. the hype/mania and 2. his religious beliefs. The first you can't fault him for, the second... some folks have made their hate for Christians pretty clear on this board.

SuperHornet · Post by **SuperHornet** » Fri Mar 16, 2012 12:51 pm

You make a pretty good case, 89. It just seemed as if Vidav was agreeing with you to some degree.

Post by **Wedgebuster** » Fri Mar 16, 2012 7:03 pm

grizzaholic wrote:
89Hen wrote: Why the hate?
Because he is NOT a good QB and should have never ever gotten the job.

Yeah, WTF hen, you born stupid or just wake up that way??

Willie · Post by **Willie** » Sat Mar 17, 2012 11:57 pm

TwinTownBisonFan wrote:Manning has made a career out making decent receivers in to all-pros...

Pierre Garcon anyone?

Garcon was a beast in college, no one made him "look good"...other way around. Just because it was D-III doesn't mean shit. He could have played anywhere.

Post by **Wedgebuster** » Tue Mar 20, 2012 10:23 am

VictorG · Post by **VictorG** » Tue Mar 20, 2012 11:30 am

This is just great news every way I look at it.

Dolts will suck for several years, Tebow will disappear for good and the Roncho's will be broke and still suck because I don't think Manning has that much left in him.....

Post by **Wedgebuster** » Wed Mar 21, 2012 9:39 am

I wonder if nobody picks up Tebow with his current contract amount, would it be a good move for the Broncos to sign him back to their practice squad.

i could see him being a great and inspirational leader there. Think of the prospect of going up against a motivated practice squad daily at practice.

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