When the CAA loses VCU, ODU, Ga St. who do they add?

[danefan]

Maine is way out of the way and is struggling w/ fb. UNH could but they already have their best sport. If they took SB and Albany they'd still have UNH and Maine fb. AEC would be down to 7. They could invite 1-3 NEC members. If for some reason they said no, then NJIT puts them back at 8. So in no way would UNH and maine have their other sports killed.

How is Maine stugggling with football, moron????

Jeezus Christ......stopping talking out of your gaping azzhole!

I was going to ask the same question, but I figured you'd get to it before me.

Maine seems fine. Now they don't have to go to Atlanta so even better.

[aceinthehole]

Maine is way out of the way and is struggling w/ fb. UNH could but they already have their best sport. If they took SB and Albany they'd still have UNH and Maine fb. AEC would be down to 7. They could invite 1-3 NEC members. If for some reason they said no, then NJIT puts them back at 8. So in no way would UNH and maine have their other sports killed.

I think you are underestinating the impact and reality of making that move in the "board room"

First, UNH and Maine already have/had a long-term relationship established with many of the current CAA schools through CAA Football. I find it hard to imagine that the Presidents and ADs at Delaware, Towson, W&M, JMU, as well as NU and Hofstra would vote to add SBU and Albany over UNH and Maine for full membership to the CAA.

Now, I could see the CAA inviting just SBU, but if they need 2 AE teams, I would have to imagine the New England pair is selected over the SUNY pair. Of course, it is also possible that all 4 could come over as a package.

I just don't see UNH and Maine very happy playing their other sports in the AE with Boston U., Hartford, Binghamton, UMBC, Vermont, and some combination of NEC teams (most likely CCSU, Quinnipiac, and Monmouth) while most of their "peers" are in the CAA.

[89Hen]

Tough to predict the future on this one. UMass was close to dropping football then they go I-A. GMU and VCU have both thought about introducing football. Would the CAA invite them back in after leaving? Richmond kinda snuck back into the CAA through the Yankee/A10 door. IF the CAA wants to keep teams like Maine and UNH around for football and NU and Hoftsra around for all sports, it would make sense for the CAA maybe think about adding Albany and/or Stony. I've said it for years, if I had my druthers CAA football would only be for all-sport CAA teams. Nothing personal against Nova, Richmond, UNH or Maine.

How does that help UNH and Maine? Why wouldn't UNH and Maine be offered full CAA membership instead of adding UA and SBU?

UNH and Maine aren't joining the CAA, so why ask?

[Fresno St. Alum]

Maine is way out of the way and is struggling w/ fb. UNH could but they already have their best sport. If they took SB and Albany they'd still have UNH and Maine fb. AEC would be down to 7. They could invite 1-3 NEC members. If for some reason they said no, then NJIT puts them back at 8. So in no way would UNH and maine have their other sports killed.

How is Maine stugggling with football, moron????

Jeezus Christ......stopping talking out of your gaping azzhole!

Dickhead, I'm not the first to bring it up, there has been discussion about it on here in the past. You're so awesome tearing up the CAA, what was I thinking Best of luck to your school, you having to come out and debunk my post speaks volumes. But hey, if you're all good w/ boat loads of money coming in, then no worries.

[Fresno St. Alum]

Maine is way out of the way and is struggling w/ fb. UNH could but they already have their best sport. If they took SB and Albany they'd still have UNH and Maine fb. AEC would be down to 7. They could invite 1-3 NEC members. If for some reason they said no, then NJIT puts them back at 8. So in no way would UNH and maine have their other sports killed.

I think you are underestinating the impact and reality of making that move in the "board room"

First, UNH and Maine already have/had a long-term relationship established with many of the current CAA schools through CAA Football. I find it hard to imagine that the Presidents and ADs at Delaware, Towson, W&M, JMU, as well as NU and Hofstra would vote to add SBU and Albany over UNH and Maine for full membership to the CAA.

Now, I could see the CAA inviting just SBU, but if they need 2 AE teams, I would have to imagine the New England pair is selected over the SUNY pair. Of course, it is also possible that all 4 could come over as a package.

I just don't see UNH and Maine very happy playing their other sports in the AE with Boston U., Hartford, Binghamton, UMBC, Vermont, and some combination of NEC teams (most likely CCSU, Quinnipiac, and Monmouth) while most of their "peers" are in the CAA.

I'm not saying that UNH has no chance, we'll see what they do, if/when this all goes down. They could go south instead. They could stay at 10. It just seems to me if they make an add of a school w/ FCS fb, grab a fb school you don't already have. If they think ODU, JMU are sticking around for a long time, then sure add UNH.

[Fresno St. Alum]

looks like these guys were wondering about the future of Maine too. You have the second comment. So you've read this.

https://bangordailynews.com/2011/08/30/ ... ostReadBox" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[mainejeff]

How is Maine stugggling with football, moron????

Jeezus Christ......stopping talking out of your gaping azzhole!

Dickhead, I'm not the first to bring it up, there has been discussion about it on here in the past. You're so awesome tearing up the CAA, what was I thinking Best of luck to your school, you having to come out and debunk my post speaks volumes. But hey, if you're all good w/ boat loads of money coming in, then no worries.

Listen dickhead.........the Maine AD has debunked Maine moving out or moving down numerous times. Go back to your "Bruiser" talk and leave the Maine expertise to those that follow the program.

[mainejeff]

looks like these guys were wondering about the future of Maine too. You have the second comment. So you've read this.

https://bangordailynews.com/2011/08/30/ ... ostReadBox" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

"These guys" is BDN town drunk Larry Mahoney. He is about 2 years and 10 rumors behind when it comes to UMaine sports. He covers the hockey team regularly and can barely keep up with them, never mind the latest goings on in FCS football. Provide me a link to the AD or Prez stating that football is being de-emphasized and discontinued and then we'll talk......

[Fresno St. Alum]

Dickhead, I'm not the first to bring it up, there has been discussion about it on here in the past. You're so awesome tearing up the CAA, what was I thinking Best of luck to your school, you having to come out and debunk my post speaks volumes. But hey, if you're all good w/ boat loads of money coming in, then no worries.

Listen dickhead.........the Maine AD has debunked Maine moving out or moving down numerous times. Go back to your "Bruiser" talk and leave the Maine expertise to those that follow the program.

So you want to be left alone so you can talk to yourself about how awesome Maine is at football.

[jmufan]

If they add SB, I bet it is only for football. I thought I read somewhere that the AD at SB will be meeting with Yeager sometime this summer.

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[collegesportsinfo]

Maine is way out of the way and is struggling w/ fb. UNH could but they already have their best sport. If they took SB and Albany they'd still have UNH and Maine fb. AEC would be down to 7. They could invite 1-3 NEC members. If for some reason they said no, then NJIT puts them back at 8. So in no way would UNH and maine have their other sports killed.

I think you are underestinating the impact and reality of making that move in the "board room"

First, UNH and Maine already have/had a long-term relationship established with many of the current CAA schools through CAA Football. I find it hard to imagine that the Presidents and ADs at Delaware, Towson, W&M, JMU, as well as NU and Hofstra would vote to add SBU and Albany over UNH and Maine for full membership to the CAA.

Now, I could see the CAA inviting just SBU, but if they need 2 AE teams, I would have to imagine the New England pair is selected over the SUNY pair. Of course, it is also possible that all 4 could come over as a package.

I just don't see UNH and Maine very happy playing their other sports in the AE with Boston U., Hartford, Binghamton, UMBC, Vermont, and some combination of NEC teams (most likely CCSU, Quinnipiac, and Monmouth) while most of their "peers" are in the CAA.

Can't agree with you there. Stony Brook replaces the lost LI/NYC market from the Hofstra dropping of football, adds a travel partner to maximize the region for the CAA, is a closer travel distance for all the non-football sports. I think if App St. rejected the CAA for all-sports membership, that Stony Brook would be the GA St. replacement. It's nothing against UNH or Maine, it's just that having SB and Hofstra will do more for the conference than having UNH and Northeastern.

And if VCU and GMU leave the CAA, I still see Boston University selected over UNH or Maine...since they would have been selected in 2005 if they had football. They didn't, so NU, despite having worst numbers (facilities, media market penetration, and even academics by a small amount) was invited so that the CAA could get to 6 all-sports members and usurp FCS sponsorship. As for the 3rd of the 3 replacements, sure UNH could be an option. But it would seem also just as likely that the CAA would TRY to replace the southern departure of GA St. with a school like Davidson, CofC (already rejected the CAA twice) and even, as long a shot as it seems, Coastal Carolina.

[alvin kayak]

http://www.delawareonline.com/article/2 ... re-unclear" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Delaware Online article mentions Yeager's preference for 12-team league.

Top candidates are Coastal Carolina, Charleston, Davidson, Stony Brook, Boston U, Charlotte.

[danefan]

http://www.delawareonline.com/article/2 ... re-unclear

Delaware Online article mentions Yeager's preference for 12-team league.

Top candidates are Coastal Carolina, Charleston, Davidson, Stony Brook, Boston U, Charlotte.

It doesn't say those are the "Top Candidates". It just says they are the ones that may be a fit.

[alvin kayak]

http://www.delawareonline.com/article/2 ... re-unclear

Delaware Online article mentions Yeager's preference for 12-team league.

Top candidates are Coastal Carolina, Charleston, Davidson, Stony Brook, Boston U, Charlotte.

It doesn't say those are the "Top Candidates". It just says they are the ones that may be a fit.

Semantics much?

[danefan]

It doesn't say those are the "Top Candidates". It just says they are the ones that may be a fit.

Semantics much?

Well, when you mention that "Yeager's preference" and "top candidates" in the same post it makes it seem like the schools you indicate are part of Yeager's preference. I was just pointing out that it is not the case. We don't know who the CAA's preference is yet.

[collegesportsinfo]

It doesn't say those are the "Top Candidates". It just says they are the ones that may be a fit.

Semantics much?

Yes, very important semantics. Those are not the top candidates. The top "candidates" from that list would be Stony Brook and then Coastal Carolina, since both sponsor football, and the CAA NEEDS a new all-sports school with football.

Since Charlotte already rejected the CAA WITH GMU, VCU and GA State, it is beyond a stretch to assume Charlotte is even remotely interested, especially a year after the A10 got 4 NCAA bids.

For non-football schools, Charleston already rejected the CAA TWICE, most recently in 2005 when the CAA then opted for GA State...so without GMU, VCU or GA State, why would anyone thing Charleston would want to move there now?

There has been no public response over the years from Davidson.

BU would join.

So if were going to include unrealistic schools as "TOP" "candidates", then might as well include even further stretches like Villanova, Fordham, etc.

[danefan]

Semantics much?

Yes, very important semantics. Those are not the top candidates. The top "candidates" from that list would be Stony Brook and then Coastal Carolina, since both sponsor football, and the CAA NEEDS a new all-sports school with football.

Since Charlotte already rejected the CAA WITH GMU, VCU and GA State, it is beyond a stretch to assume Charlotte is even remotely interested, especially a year after the A10 got 4 NCAA bids.

For non-football schools, Charleston already rejected the CAA TWICE, most recently in 2005 when the CAA then opted for GA State...so without GMU, VCU or GA State, why would anyone thing Charleston would want to move there now?

There has been no public response over the years from Davidson.

BU would join.

So if were going to include unrealistic schools as "TOP" "candidates", then might as well include even further stretches like Villanova, Fordham, etc.

I have to think that Albany and Stony Brook are both in the mix.

The question for anyone looking at the league though, is whether you really want to be in the CAA anymore if GMU and VCU leave.

JMU is out the door at some point soon.

How long before ODU moves us? 10 years tops.

[89Hen]

The question for anyone looking at the league though, is whether you really want to be in the CAA anymore if GMU and VCU leave.

JMU is out the door at some point soon.

How long before ODU moves us? 10 years tops.

Guess it depends on who is looking. The CAA minus GMU and VCU is still stronger than a lot of other conferences.

[danefan]

The question for anyone looking at the league though, is whether you really want to be in the CAA anymore if GMU and VCU leave.

JMU is out the door at some point soon.

How long before ODU moves us? 10 years tops.

Guess it depends on who is looking. The CAA minus GMU and VCU is still stronger than a lot of other conferences.

Agreed. But is it a long term solution?

[89Hen]

Guess it depends on who is looking. The CAA minus GMU and VCU is still stronger than a lot of other conferences.

Agreed. But is it a long term solution?

I think so. There are plenty of schools that would be good to be associated with that aren't going anywhere. I think you'd see a complete shake-up of BCS/I-A/I-AA before you'd see schools like JMU go anywhere under the current setup.

[JMUDuke2002]

Agreed. But is it a long term solution?

I think so. There are plenty of schools that would be good to be associated with that aren't going anywhere. I think you'd see a complete shake-up of BCS/I-A/I-AA before you'd see schools like JMU go anywhere under the current setup.

JMU is a bit of a wild card right now. We have a new president coming on in July, and no one knows if the top level admin will stay. No one, except maybe the higher donors, has a clue on the new presidents athletic views or where he sees JMU in 2, 5, or 10 years. Interesting time.

[bluehenbillk]

Entries all over Twitter today citing NY Post reporting George Mason & VCU to the A-10 as of May 1st. Butler may be included as well.

[Fresno St. Alum]

Yes, very important semantics. Those are not the top candidates. The top "candidates" from that list would be Stony Brook and then Coastal Carolina, since both sponsor football, and the CAA NEEDS a new all-sports school with football.

Since Charlotte already rejected the CAA WITH GMU, VCU and GA State, it is beyond a stretch to assume Charlotte is even remotely interested, especially a year after the A10 got 4 NCAA bids.

For non-football schools, Charleston already rejected the CAA TWICE, most recently in 2005 when the CAA then opted for GA State...so without GMU, VCU or GA State, why would anyone thing Charleston would want to move there now?

There has been no public response over the years from Davidson.

BU would join.

So if were going to include unrealistic schools as "TOP" "candidates", then might as well include even further stretches like Villanova, Fordham, etc.

I have to think that Albany and Stony Brook are both in the mix.

The question for anyone looking at the league though, is whether you really want to be in the CAA anymore if GMU and VCU leave.

JMU is out the door at some point soon.

How long before ODU moves us? 10 years tops.

My list was Stony Brook, Albany, C.Carolina, Boston, Liberty, UNH.

Is Albany unwilling to add more fb schollies? That would keep them out. I think they should add schollies if that is the hold up for a CAA invite, they might not be on the list either way but my hunch is that it's fb schollies.

[danefan]

I have to think that Albany and Stony Brook are both in the mix.

The question for anyone looking at the league though, is whether you really want to be in the CAA anymore if GMU and VCU leave.

JMU is out the door at some point soon.

How long before ODU moves us? 10 years tops.

My list was Stony Brook, Albany, C.Carolina, Boston, Liberty, UNH.

Is Albany unwilling to add more fb schollies? That would keep them out. I think they should add schollies if that is the hold up for a CAA invite, they might not be on the list either way but my hunch is that it's fb schollies.

Albany is willing able and ready to offer full scholarships for football if the conference affiliation is there. The only reason we are at 38 now is because the NEC limits the max and the administration thought it was better to wait it out in the NEC rather than go independent or to the Big South with SBU. Hindsight might be 20/20, but I think that conversation with the CAA is pretty easy.

The facility issue at Albany was more of a concern for me in the past, but no longer.

Dirt is already moving.

[Fresno St. Alum]

Then I would take Stony Brook, Albany, C.Carolina. That puts you at 12 for fb and 12 total. 1 new state, 2 new markets, plus it brings fb back to Long Island, after Hofstra dropped it.