A Molestation Victim's Take on JoPa's Passing

[AZGrizFan]

Yeah....too bad your hero JoPa wasn't still alive so HE could pay the piper for his sins...

JoePa reported what he knew to higher authority. Remember, McQueary didn't tell him everything. Curley, Schultz and Spanier covered it up. JoePa did not.

I seriously can't fathom that you're letting him off the moral hook so easily.

[UNI88]

JoePa reported what he knew to higher authority. Remember, McQueary didn't tell him everything. Curley, Schultz and Spanier covered it up. JoePa did not.

I seriously can't fathom that you're letting him off the moral hook so easily.

JoePa did a lot of great things in his career but his failure to use his influence to make sure this was addressed expeditiously and thoroughly will be a huge black mark on his overall record.

[Franks Tanks]

Quite a web of mis-information and faulty logic spouted by AzGrizFan (although that shouldn’t surprise me).

It is unfathomable that Joe is somehow the scapegoat in all of this when he didn’t witness anything, is not a law enforcement official, and not an administrator of the university. Sure Joe was an important man, and his opinion held sway at PSU, but he was a just football coach. Mike McQueary did not tell Joe that he thought the boy was being raped. MM told Joe a watered down version, and testified as such under oath in the Curley/Shultz hearings. He told Joe a toned down version, and Joe arranged a meeting with Curley and Shultz. Both Joe and MM viewed Shultz as law enforcement, and MM testified as such. MM told his story to just Shultz and Curley, Joe was not present for the meeting and never heard the gory details from Mike. Joe indicated he followed up with Mike, and apparently Mike said it was handled to his satisfaction.

What killed Joe is the fact that MM didn’t tell him the full story. Perhaps Joe should’ve instructed MM to call the Police, but Joe and MM thought talking to Shultz was the same as reporting it to the Police. Joe was not a witness or a victim and his account of what Mike told him would mean little. The cops need a victim and/or a witness to have success in these cases. I agree that Joe should’ve pushed MM/Shultz/Curley to ensure it was investigated and vetted properly. He could have done more in this regard. However Joe didn’t know the details, and was under the impression that it was investigated properly. Joe was a trusting man and If MM and or Curley told him it was investigated and settled he probably believed them. I do think Joe made a mistake, and that is clear with the benefit of hindsight, but we are killing a man who didn’t know the full story and trusted the people in charge did the right thing.

[Franks Tanks]

I think he called you and I t-shirt fans....dumbass move really.


Had it not been for out of state tuition at Michigan being over 40k a year and being that far from my family i'd be a um asking right now

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To me Joe Pa missed his chance of nipping this in the bud when the opportunity presented itself.Still can't believe he came up with that lazy excuse of not wanting to interfere with vacation plans of school president to remove a child molester from society!!!!!!

That is a horse shit statement. Joe put MM in contact with Curley/Shultz almost immediately after he was told. MM was a grown man at the time, and could've easily called law enforcement himself as the witness if he felt Joe was moving too slowly. I think MM did not call law enforcement because he knew he was meeting with Shultz shortly, who was in charge of campus police amongst other duties.

Also Joe said some odd things in his old age. I believe he made the weekend comment during the grand jury questioning, and he was 84 years old at the time. Joe had some bizarre press conference during the 9,10,11 seasons as his age was getting to him. Don't harp on a goofy comment from an old man.

[rkwittem]

Yeah....too bad your hero JoPa wasn't still alive so HE could pay the piper for his sins...

JoePa reported what he knew to higher authority. Remember, McQueary didn't tell him everything. Curley, Schultz and Spanier covered it up. JoePa did not.

The new CNN report just proves what we all knew. JoePa was as guilty as the rest. Say goodbye to that nice statue and having your coach's name on the trophy. Put Schembechler or Hayes on there like it should've been from the start.

[CitadelGrad]

JoePa reported what he knew to higher authority. Remember, McQueary didn't tell him everything. Curley, Schultz and Spanier covered it up. JoePa did not.

The new CNN report just proves what we all knew. JoePa was as guilty as the rest. Say goodbye to that nice statue and having your coach's name on the trophy. Put Schembechler or Hayes on there like it should've been from the start.

You have no idea what you are talking about. There is absolutely no evidence that Paterno knew of the 1998 incident. The emails concerning the 2002 incident indicate a cover-up by Spanier, Schultz and Curley -- not Paterno.

I guess some people are just determined to believe what they want to believe.

[dbackjon]

Joe Paterno is a motherfucking piece of shit - and anyone that defends him must spport fucking little boys, because that is what the fuckhead allowed to go on.

They need to tear down any mention of Paterno - anywhere.

"After giving it more thought and talking it over with Joe yesterday, I am uncomfortable with what we agreed were the next steps. I am having trouble with going to everyone but the person involved. I would be more comfortable meeting with the person and tell them about the information we received and tell them we are aware of the first situation," Curley's email said, according to CNN.
It's unclear why Curley suggested that Sandusky (the "person involved") wouldn't be contacted when Schultz's email told Curley to "talk with the subject asap." But the bottom line is that child welfare services was never contacted. And Sandusky, convicted earlier this month on 45 counts of molestation, continued to stalk and abuse the area's disadvantaged boys for seven more years.
The email is devastating on multiple levels, perhaps most for Paterno, who had escaped some measure of scorn thus far by playing the, in-hindsight-I-should've-done-more angle. Paterno, who won more games than any other major college football coach, died at age 85 in January of lung cancer.
[Yahoo! Sports Radio: Dan Wetzel on the Sandusky verdict]
According to Curley's email, Paterno participated more than he ever admitted, including likely talking Curley – and thus the others – out of the plan to turn Sandusky over to authorities.
Take a second for that one to sink in.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/ncaaf--joe ... IR9jw5nYcB" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

FUCK PATERNO, and FUCK his defenders - you are all scum.

[rkwittem]

The new CNN report just proves what we all knew. JoePa was as guilty as the rest. Say goodbye to that nice statue and having your coach's name on the trophy. Put Schembechler or Hayes on there like it should've been from the start.

You have no idea what you are talking about. There is absolutely no evidence that Paterno knew of the 1998 incident. The emails concerning the 2002 incident indicate a cover-up by Spanier, Schultz and Curley -- not Paterno.

I guess some people are just determined to believe what they want to believe.

Does that include the loyal Penn State hacks who still have their heads in the sand about this whole mess? Paterno told those guys not to report Sandusky. What more evidence do you need?

[AZGrizFan]

Quite a web of mis-information and faulty logic spouted by AzGrizFan (although that shouldn’t surprise me).

It is unfathomable that Joe is somehow the scapegoat in all of this when he didn’t witness anything, is not a law enforcement official, and not an administrator of the university. Sure Joe was an important man, and his opinion held sway at PSU, but he was a just football coach. Mike McQueary did not tell Joe that he thought the boy was being raped. MM told Joe a watered down version, and testified as such under oath in the Curley/Shultz hearings. He told Joe a toned down version, and Joe arranged a meeting with Curley and Shultz. Both Joe and MM viewed Shultz as law enforcement, and MM testified as such. MM told his story to just Shultz and Curley, Joe was not present for the meeting and never heard the gory details from Mike. Joe indicated he followed up with Mike, and apparently Mike said it was handled to his satisfaction.

What killed Joe is the fact that MM didn’t tell him the full story. Perhaps Joe should’ve instructed MM to call the Police, but Joe and MM thought talking to Shultz was the same as reporting it to the Police. Joe was not a witness or a victim and his account of what Mike told him would mean little. The cops need a victim and/or a witness to have success in these cases. I agree that Joe should’ve pushed MM/Shultz/Curley to ensure it was investigated and vetted properly. He could have done more in this regard. However Joe didn’t know the details, and was under the impression that it was investigated properly. Joe was a trusting man and If MM and or Curley told him it was investigated and settled he probably believed them. I do think Joe made a mistake, and that is clear with the benefit of hindsight, but we are killing a man who didn’t know the full story and trusted the people in charge did the right thing.

"After giving it more thought and talking it over with Joe yesterday, I am uncomfortable with what we agreed were the next steps. I am having trouble with going to everyone but the person involved. I would be more comfortable meeting with the person and tell them about the information we received and tell them we are aware of the first situation," Curley's email said, according to CNN.
It's unclear why Curley suggested that Sandusky (the "person involved") wouldn't be contacted when Schultz's email told Curley to "talk with the subject asap." But the bottom line is that child welfare services was never contacted. And Sandusky, convicted earlier this month on 45 counts of molestation, continued to stalk and abuse the area's disadvantaged boys for seven more years.
The email is devastating on multiple levels, perhaps most for Paterno, who had escaped some measure of scorn thus far by playing the, in-hindsight-I-should've-done-more angle. Paterno, who won more games than any other major college football coach, died at age 85 in January of lung cancer.
[Yahoo! Sports Radio: Dan Wetzel on the Sandusky verdict]
According to Curley's email, Paterno participated more than he ever admitted, including likely talking Curley – and thus the others – out of the plan to turn Sandusky over to authorities.
Take a second for that one to sink in.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/ncaaf--joe ... IR9jw5nYcB" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Hey, Frank: Take your "web of misinformation and faulty logic" and shove it firmly up your ass. Better yet, let Sandusky help you. You defenders are fucking pathetic.

[rkwittem]

Quite a web of mis-information and faulty logic spouted by AzGrizFan (although that shouldn’t surprise me).

It is unfathomable that Joe is somehow the scapegoat in all of this when he didn’t witness anything, is not a law enforcement official, and not an administrator of the university. Sure Joe was an important man, and his opinion held sway at PSU, but he was a just football coach. Mike McQueary did not tell Joe that he thought the boy was being raped. MM told Joe a watered down version, and testified as such under oath in the Curley/Shultz hearings. He told Joe a toned down version, and Joe arranged a meeting with Curley and Shultz. Both Joe and MM viewed Shultz as law enforcement, and MM testified as such. MM told his story to just Shultz and Curley, Joe was not present for the meeting and never heard the gory details from Mike. Joe indicated he followed up with Mike, and apparently Mike said it was handled to his satisfaction.

What killed Joe is the fact that MM didn’t tell him the full story. Perhaps Joe should’ve instructed MM to call the Police, but Joe and MM thought talking to Shultz was the same as reporting it to the Police. Joe was not a witness or a victim and his account of what Mike told him would mean little. The cops need a victim and/or a witness to have success in these cases. I agree that Joe should’ve pushed MM/Shultz/Curley to ensure it was investigated and vetted properly. He could have done more in this regard. However Joe didn’t know the details, and was under the impression that it was investigated properly. Joe was a trusting man and If MM and or Curley told him it was investigated and settled he probably believed them. I do think Joe made a mistake, and that is clear with the benefit of hindsight, but we are killing a man who didn’t know the full story and trusted the people in charge did the right thing.

"After giving it more thought and talking it over with Joe yesterday, I am uncomfortable with what we agreed were the next steps. I am having trouble with going to everyone but the person involved. I would be more comfortable meeting with the person and tell them about the information we received and tell them we are aware of the first situation," Curley's email said, according to CNN.
It's unclear why Curley suggested that Sandusky (the "person involved") wouldn't be contacted when Schultz's email told Curley to "talk with the subject asap." But the bottom line is that child welfare services was never contacted. And Sandusky, convicted earlier this month on 45 counts of molestation, continued to stalk and abuse the area's disadvantaged boys for seven more years.
The email is devastating on multiple levels, perhaps most for Paterno, who had escaped some measure of scorn thus far by playing the, in-hindsight-I-should've-done-more angle. Paterno, who won more games than any other major college football coach, died at age 85 in January of lung cancer.
[Yahoo! Sports Radio: Dan Wetzel on the Sandusky verdict]
According to Curley's email, Paterno participated more than he ever admitted, including likely talking Curley – and thus the others – out of the plan to turn Sandusky over to authorities.
Take a second for that one to sink in.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/ncaaf--joe ... IR9jw5nYcB" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Hey, Frank: Take your "web of misinformation and faulty logic" and shove it firmly up your ass. Better yet, let Sandusky help you. You defenders are **** pathetic.

[Franks Tanks]

Quite a web of mis-information and faulty logic spouted by AzGrizFan (although that shouldn’t surprise me).

It is unfathomable that Joe is somehow the scapegoat in all of this when he didn’t witness anything, is not a law enforcement official, and not an administrator of the university. Sure Joe was an important man, and his opinion held sway at PSU, but he was a just football coach. Mike McQueary did not tell Joe that he thought the boy was being raped. MM told Joe a watered down version, and testified as such under oath in the Curley/Shultz hearings. He told Joe a toned down version, and Joe arranged a meeting with Curley and Shultz. Both Joe and MM viewed Shultz as law enforcement, and MM testified as such. MM told his story to just Shultz and Curley, Joe was not present for the meeting and never heard the gory details from Mike. Joe indicated he followed up with Mike, and apparently Mike said it was handled to his satisfaction.

What killed Joe is the fact that MM didn’t tell him the full story. Perhaps Joe should’ve instructed MM to call the Police, but Joe and MM thought talking to Shultz was the same as reporting it to the Police. Joe was not a witness or a victim and his account of what Mike told him would mean little. The cops need a victim and/or a witness to have success in these cases. I agree that Joe should’ve pushed MM/Shultz/Curley to ensure it was investigated and vetted properly. He could have done more in this regard. However Joe didn’t know the details, and was under the impression that it was investigated properly. Joe was a trusting man and If MM and or Curley told him it was investigated and settled he probably believed them. I do think Joe made a mistake, and that is clear with the benefit of hindsight, but we are killing a man who didn’t know the full story and trusted the people in charge did the right thing.

"After giving it more thought and talking it over with Joe yesterday, I am uncomfortable with what we agreed were the next steps. I am having trouble with going to everyone but the person involved. I would be more comfortable meeting with the person and tell them about the information we received and tell them we are aware of the first situation," Curley's email said, according to CNN.
It's unclear why Curley suggested that Sandusky (the "person involved") wouldn't be contacted when Schultz's email told Curley to "talk with the subject asap." But the bottom line is that child welfare services was never contacted. And Sandusky, convicted earlier this month on 45 counts of molestation, continued to stalk and abuse the area's disadvantaged boys for seven more years.
The email is devastating on multiple levels, perhaps most for Paterno, who had escaped some measure of scorn thus far by playing the, in-hindsight-I-should've-done-more angle. Paterno, who won more games than any other major college football coach, died at age 85 in January of lung cancer.
[Yahoo! Sports Radio: Dan Wetzel on the Sandusky verdict]
According to Curley's email, Paterno participated more than he ever admitted, including likely talking Curley – and thus the others – out of the plan to turn Sandusky over to authorities.
Take a second for that one to sink in.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/ncaaf--joe ... IR9jw5nYcB" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Hey, Frank: Take your "web of misinformation and faulty logic" and shove it firmly up your ass. Better yet, let Sandusky help you. You defenders are **** pathetic.

I am not a blind Joe Paterno apologist. I stated above and before that Joe is by no means innocent in all of this, and could've and should've done more, but I do not think it is fair that he has recieved the brunt of the media firestorm. I felt Joe was in the dark a bit and Joe felt Spanier, Curley and Shultz handled it to the satisfaction of the witness (Mike McQueary).

We do have some new information that must be considered. Tim Curley's email mentions a conversation with Joe, but we don't have the full text and do not know what the conversation was regarding. Perhaps Curley said to Joe "We are going to handle this in house, what do you think?" Joe could have said "Tim do what you think is right." Alternatively Joe could have pushed Curley to handle it in house- we do not know based on that one sentance. IF Joe pushed the others to handle it internally he made a grave mistake and deserves criticism. However, the leaked bits of information do not prove that was the case. Joe is the big name is all of this and it sells papers and gets ratings. Naturally everyone is in a rush to implicate Paterno as the mastermind of a cover-up and will do anything to lean the discussion to that end. Regardless of the e-mail trail Joe made a mistake, but it is way too early to say with certainity that it was all squashed because Joe said so.

[AZGrizFan]

Hey, Frank: Take your "web of misinformation and faulty logic" and shove it firmly up your ass. Better yet, let Sandusky help you. You defenders are **** pathetic.

I am not a blind Joe Paterno apologist. I stated above and before that Joe is by no means innocent in all of this, and could've and should've done more, but I do not think it is fair that he has recieved the brunt of the media firestorm. I felt Joe was in the dark a bit and Joe felt Spanier, Curley and Shultz handled it to the satisfaction of the witness (Mike McQueary).

We do have some new information that must be considered. Tim Curley's email mentions a conversation with Joe, but we don't have the full text and do not know what the conversation was regarding. Perhaps Curley said to Joe "We are going to handle this in house, what do you think?" Joe could have said "Tim do what you think is right." Alternatively Joe could have pushed Curley to handle it in house- we do not know based on that one sentance. IF Joe pushed the others to handle it internally he made a grave mistake and deserves criticism. However, the leaked bits of information do not prove that was the case. Joe is the big name is all of this and it sells papers and gets ratings. Naturally everyone is in a rush to implicate Paterno as the mastermind of a cover-up and will do anything to lean the discussion to that end. Regardless of the e-mail trail Joe made a mistake, but it is way too early to say with certainity that it was all squashed because Joe said so.

"Brunt of the media firestorm"? I have hardly heard his name mentioned since he died. Dying might have been the best thing that could have happened to him, honestly.

[Franks Tanks]

I am not a blind Joe Paterno apologist. I stated above and before that Joe is by no means innocent in all of this, and could've and should've done more, but I do not think it is fair that he has recieved the brunt of the media firestorm. I felt Joe was in the dark a bit and Joe felt Spanier, Curley and Shultz handled it to the satisfaction of the witness (Mike McQueary).

We do have some new information that must be considered. Tim Curley's email mentions a conversation with Joe, but we don't have the full text and do not know what the conversation was regarding. Perhaps Curley said to Joe "We are going to handle this in house, what do you think?" Joe could have said "Tim do what you think is right." Alternatively Joe could have pushed Curley to handle it in house- we do not know based on that one sentance. IF Joe pushed the others to handle it internally he made a grave mistake and deserves criticism. However, the leaked bits of information do not prove that was the case. Joe is the big name is all of this and it sells papers and gets ratings. Naturally everyone is in a rush to implicate Paterno as the mastermind of a cover-up and will do anything to lean the discussion to that end. Regardless of the e-mail trail Joe made a mistake, but it is way too early to say with certainity that it was all squashed because Joe said so.

"Brunt of the media firestorm"? I have hardly heard his name mentioned since he died. Dying might have been the best thing that could have happened to him, honestly.

There wasn't much in the news between Joe's death and the Sandusky trial because little or no new information came out.

Even before all of this Joe wasn't perfect. He was cranky, mean to the media, had too many players getting into trouble, and just too damm stubborn for his own good. However people respected him because he demanded academic excellence among his players, and tried to do things the right way. If he was instrumental in keeping the Sandusky incident in house, he messed up big time and deserves criticism. It pains everyone that Sandusky could've been stopped earlierand there is no good excuse as to why he wasn't.

[AZGrizFan]

"Brunt of the media firestorm"? I have hardly heard his name mentioned since he died. Dying might have been the best thing that could have happened to him, honestly.

There wasn't much in the news between Joe's death and the Sandusky trial because little or no new information came out.

Even before all of this Joe wasn't perfect. He was cranky, mean to the media, had too many players getting into trouble, and just too damm stubborn for his own good. However people respected him because he demanded academic excellence among his players, and tried to do things the right way. If he was instrumental in keeping the Sandusky incident in house, he messed up big time and deserves criticism. It pains everyone that Sandusky could've been stopped earlierand there is no good excuse as to why he wasn't.

And that's been my point all along, and why Paterno, being the icon that he was, was really in the BEST position to actually do something about it years earlier. Instead, he helped bury it and in the process allowed dozens of more children to be victimized, many on PSU property. Joe knew. And he took it to his grave....his lack of action is inexcusable, all in the name of protecting the institution and his rep.

[SDHornet]

Joe Paterno is a motherfucking piece of shit - and anyone that defends him must spport fucking little boys, because that is what the fuckhead allowed to go on.

They need to tear down any mention of Paterno - anywhere.

"After giving it more thought and talking it over with Joe yesterday, I am uncomfortable with what we agreed were the next steps. I am having trouble with going to everyone but the person involved. I would be more comfortable meeting with the person and tell them about the information we received and tell them we are aware of the first situation," Curley's email said, according to CNN.
It's unclear why Curley suggested that Sandusky (the "person involved") wouldn't be contacted when Schultz's email told Curley to "talk with the subject asap." But the bottom line is that child welfare services was never contacted. And Sandusky, convicted earlier this month on 45 counts of molestation, continued to stalk and abuse the area's disadvantaged boys for seven more years.
The email is devastating on multiple levels, perhaps most for Paterno, who had escaped some measure of scorn thus far by playing the, in-hindsight-I-should've-done-more angle. Paterno, who won more games than any other major college football coach, died at age 85 in January of lung cancer.
[Yahoo! Sports Radio: Dan Wetzel on the Sandusky verdict]
According to Curley's email, Paterno participated more than he ever admitted, including likely talking Curley – and thus the others – out of the plan to turn Sandusky over to authorities.
Take a second for that one to sink in.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/ncaaf--joe ... IR9jw5nYcB" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

FUCK PATERNO, and FUCK his defenders - you are all scum.

Pretty much confirms what we have all been thinking. I also loved how the article pointed out the decision to cover this up was at the same time PSU was struggling on the field and how people were starting to call for Paterno to be let go/retire. It's just pathetic that PSU went to great lengths to cover its image instead of doing the right thing, especially when the harming of children was going on right under their noses. Fucking pathetic.

[bluehenbillk]

Joe Paterno is a motherfucking piece of **** - and anyone that defends him must spport **** little boys, because that is what the **** allowed to go on.

They need to tear down any mention of Paterno - anywhere.

"After giving it more thought and talking it over with Joe yesterday, I am uncomfortable with what we agreed were the next steps. I am having trouble with going to everyone but the person involved. I would be more comfortable meeting with the person and tell them about the information we received and tell them we are aware of the first situation," Curley's email said, according to CNN.
It's unclear why Curley suggested that Sandusky (the "person involved") wouldn't be contacted when Schultz's email told Curley to "talk with the subject asap." But the bottom line is that child welfare services was never contacted. And Sandusky, convicted earlier this month on 45 counts of molestation, continued to stalk and abuse the area's disadvantaged boys for seven more years.
The email is devastating on multiple levels, perhaps most for Paterno, who had escaped some measure of scorn thus far by playing the, in-hindsight-I-should've-done-more angle. Paterno, who won more games than any other major college football coach, died at age 85 in January of lung cancer.
[Yahoo! Sports Radio: Dan Wetzel on the Sandusky verdict]
According to Curley's email, Paterno participated more than he ever admitted, including likely talking Curley – and thus the others – out of the plan to turn Sandusky over to authorities.
Take a second for that one to sink in.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/ncaaf--joe ... IR9jw5nYcB" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

**** PATERNO, and **** his defenders - you are all scum.

Pretty much confirms what we have all been thinking. I also loved how the article pointed out the decision to cover this up was at the same time PSU was struggling on the field and how people were starting to call for Paterno to be let go/retire. It's just pathetic that PSU went to great lengths to cover its image instead of doing the right thing, especially when the harming of children was going on right under their noses. **** pathetic.

+1

It will be interesting to see what Emmert & the NCAA do now - especially since Spanier flat out lied to him to in November. PSU could get nothing or they could get the worst punishment since SMU.

[Franks Tanks]

Joe Paterno is a motherfucking piece of **** - and anyone that defends him must spport **** little boys, because that is what the **** allowed to go on.

They need to tear down any mention of Paterno - anywhere.

"After giving it more thought and talking it over with Joe yesterday, I am uncomfortable with what we agreed were the next steps. I am having trouble with going to everyone but the person involved. I would be more comfortable meeting with the person and tell them about the information we received and tell them we are aware of the first situation," Curley's email said, according to CNN.
It's unclear why Curley suggested that Sandusky (the "person involved") wouldn't be contacted when Schultz's email told Curley to "talk with the subject asap." But the bottom line is that child welfare services was never contacted. And Sandusky, convicted earlier this month on 45 counts of molestation, continued to stalk and abuse the area's disadvantaged boys for seven more years.
The email is devastating on multiple levels, perhaps most for Paterno, who had escaped some measure of scorn thus far by playing the, in-hindsight-I-should've-done-more angle. Paterno, who won more games than any other major college football coach, died at age 85 in January of lung cancer.
[Yahoo! Sports Radio: Dan Wetzel on the Sandusky verdict]
According to Curley's email, Paterno participated more than he ever admitted, including likely talking Curley – and thus the others – out of the plan to turn Sandusky over to authorities.
Take a second for that one to sink in.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/ncaaf--joe ... IR9jw5nYcB" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

**** PATERNO, and **** his defenders - you are all scum.

Pretty much confirms what we have all been thinking. I also loved how the article pointed out the decision to cover this up was at the same time PSU was struggling on the field and how people were starting to call for Paterno to be let go/retire. It's just pathetic that PSU went to great lengths to cover its image instead of doing the right thing, especially when the harming of children was going on right under their noses. **** pathetic.

It is distrubing that something could've been done to protect the kids years earlier. I will say however that the e-mails indicate that it was swept under the rug to protect Jerry, and not just the football program. Spanier’s infamous e-mail suggests they would handle it in house to be “humane” to Jerry. This was a man that many of them knew for years, if not decades, and at some level I think they also had a hard time processing the information. It is not an excuse, but a reason as to why they felt they should show him some compassion. It was an indescribably bad decision, but I think it was the driving force behind the decision. Not reporting the issues just to protect the program doesn't make a lot of sense.

[AZGrizFan]

Pretty much confirms what we have all been thinking. I also loved how the article pointed out the decision to cover this up was at the same time PSU was struggling on the field and how people were starting to call for Paterno to be let go/retire. It's just pathetic that PSU went to great lengths to cover its image instead of doing the right thing, especially when the harming of children was going on right under their noses. **** pathetic.

It is distrubing that something could've been done to protect the kids years earlier. I will say however that the e-mails indicate that it was swept under the rug to protect Jerry, and not just the football program. Spanier’s infamous e-mail suggests they would handle it in house to be “humane” to Jerry. This was a man that many of them knew for years, if not decades, and at some level I think they also had a hard time processing the information. It is not an excuse, but a reason as to why they felt they should show him some compassion. It was an indescribably bad decision, but I think it was the driving force behind the decision. Not reporting the issues just to protect the program doesn't make a lot of sense.

Still waiting for my mis-information and faulty logic.

[dbackjon]

It is distrubing that something could've been done to protect the kids years earlier. I will say however that the e-mails indicate that it was swept under the rug to protect Jerry, and not just the football program. Spanier’s infamous e-mail suggests they would handle it in house to be “humane” to Jerry. This was a man that many of them knew for years, if not decades, and at some level I think they also had a hard time processing the information. It is not an excuse, but a reason as to why they felt they should show him some compassion. It was an indescribably bad decision, but I think it was the driving force behind the decision. Not reporting the issues just to protect the program doesn't make a lot of sense.

Still waiting for my mis-information and faulty logic.

State Penners are still in denial.

[AZGrizFan]

Still waiting for my mis-information and faulty logic.

State Penners are still in denial.

Like nothing I've ever seen.

[Franks Tanks]

It is distrubing that something could've been done to protect the kids years earlier. I will say however that the e-mails indicate that it was swept under the rug to protect Jerry, and not just the football program. Spanier’s infamous e-mail suggests they would handle it in house to be “humane” to Jerry. This was a man that many of them knew for years, if not decades, and at some level I think they also had a hard time processing the information. It is not an excuse, but a reason as to why they felt they should show him some compassion. It was an indescribably bad decision, but I think it was the driving force behind the decision. Not reporting the issues just to protect the program doesn't make a lot of sense.

Still waiting for my mis-information and faulty logic.

Many of your posts have inaccuarte facts. Many have stated that Joe was the mastermind behind the whole cover-up mess, and that just does not compute. I have no idea why Spanier decided to squash the plan to report Sandusky, but what could Joe have said to change the mind of a University Presdident who knew he was legally bound to report the incident? Joe could have done more, nearly everyone believes and have stated this, but it is a major leap to say he pushed for a cover-up. If this gets proven that is of course another story.

[AZGrizFan]

Still waiting for my mis-information and faulty logic.

Many of your posts have inaccuarte facts. Many have stated that Joe was the mastermind behind the whole cover-up mess, and that just does not compute. I have no idea why Spanier decided to squash the plan to report Sandusky, but what could Joe have said to change the mind of a University Presdident who knew he was legally bound to report the incident? Joe could have done more, nearly everyone believes and have stated this, but it is a major leap to say he pushed for a cover-up. If this gets proven that is of course another story.

Really? Go ahead and find those posts....I'll wait.

[93henfan]

I don't know if this is new or old news, but CNN got ahold of several cover-up emails from the PSU administration:

http://www.cnn.com/2012/06/30/justice/p ... ?hpt=hp_c2

The messages indicate former Penn State President Graham Spanier and two other former university officials knew they had a problem with Sandusky after a 2001 shower incident, but apparently first decided to handle it using a "humane" approach before contacting outside authorities whose job it is to investigate suspected abuse.
"This is a more humane and upfront way to handle this,' Gary Schultz, who was a university vice president at the time, allegedly wrote.

Records show no authorities were ever contacted and Sandusky was eventually charged with having sexual contact with four more boys after the 2001 incident. On June 22, Sandusky was convicted of abusing 10 boys over 15 years.

In an exchange of messages from February 26 to February 28, 2001, Spanier allegedly acknowledges Penn State could be "vulnerable" for not reporting the incident, according to two sources with knowledge of the case.
"The only downside for us is if the message (to Sandusky) isn't 'heard' and acted upon, and we then become vulnerable for not having reported it," Spanier purportedly writes.
The alleged e-mails among Spanier, Schultz, 62, and former Athletic Director Tim Curley, 57, never mention Sandusky by name, instead referring to him as "the subject" and "the person." Children that Sandusky brought on campus --some of whom might have been victims -- are referred to as "guests."

[Franks Tanks]

Many of your posts have inaccuarte facts. Many have stated that Joe was the mastermind behind the whole cover-up mess, and that just does not compute. I have no idea why Spanier decided to squash the plan to report Sandusky, but what could Joe have said to change the mind of a University Presdident who knew he was legally bound to report the incident? Joe could have done more, nearly everyone believes and have stated this, but it is a major leap to say he pushed for a cover-up. If this gets proven that is of course another story.

Really? Go ahead and find those posts....I'll wait.

I don't have time, but did you not state that Joe covered it up for benefit of the program? I think Joe did not do the right thing, but I do not believe Joe executed a cover-up. That is it. Go away.

Actually I don't even know why I came over here.

[AZGrizFan]

Really? Go ahead and find those posts....I'll wait.

I don't have time, but did you not state that Joe covered it up for benefit of the program? I think Joe did not do the right thing, but I do not believe Joe executed a cover-up. That is it. Go away.

Actually I don't even know why I came over here.

Nope. Never stated that...even though it turns out that that's EXACTLY what he did. But you make a fly-by attacking me and then want me to just "go away"?

Go fuck yourself. I don't know why you came over here either....