#3 MSU @ #26 SAC

[BlueHen86]

I don't dispute anything that you posted above, but you can't deny that the 4 points wouldn't have helped SAC.

The argument here should be between SAC fans and the refs. If the refs blew a call there is no reason for MSU fans to come to their aid. MSU won, that outcome won't be changed and there is nothing wrong with admitting that you might have had a little help from the refs. MSU didn't do anything wrong there is no need to make rationalizations.

I have admitted that the refs blew the call, they blew many more too, that affected the game, some of those calls killed MSU drives that may have added points to our side, to win in the BSC you have to overcome bad reffing (its a fact) SAC was unable to do that, MSU was able to do that.

Dont blame the game on the refs, blame it on 4 turnovers if anything, a couple of those were key in the 4th quarter and had a much larger impact on the game than a blown call in the 1st quarter.

But you also said that the 4 points had no effect on the game. That's absurd.

[cats2506]

I have admitted that the refs blew the call, they blew many more too, that affected the game, some of those calls killed MSU drives that may have added points to our side, to win in the BSC you have to overcome bad reffing (its a fact) SAC was unable to do that, MSU was able to do that.

Dont blame the game on the refs, blame it on 4 turnovers if anything, a couple of those were key in the 4th quarter and had a much larger impact on the game than a blown call in the 1st quarter.

But you also said that the 4 points had no effect on the game. That's absurd.

that single call had no more effect than several other bad calls in the game, and other (non reffing) factors had a bigger impact than bad calls on the final outcome of the game.

that should provide some clarification as to my position

[EWURanger]

I watched the game, and the play in question was a bad call that should have been called a TD. The Big Sky will probably come out and say as muh after it's reviewed. While it did have an effect as to the overall game, it happened in the first quarter. I think if it had happened in the final couple of possessions or something, then the Sac fans would have a legit complaint. However, the int at the end and the other mistakes by Sac are what sealed the deal. Overall, I thought Sac played really well and probably should have won the game. But, the mistakes cost them. Bad calls are the norm in the Big Sky and every team has to deal with them. Generally, the better teams will find a way to do that. It is what it is.


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[cats2506]

I watched the game, and the play in question was a bad call that should have been called a TD. The Big Sky will probably come out and say as muh after it's reviewed. While it did have an effect as to the overall game plan, it happened in the first quarter. I think if it had happened in the final couple of possessions or something, then the Sac fans would have a legit complaint. However, the int at the end and the other mistakes by Sac are what sealed the deal. Overall, I thought Sac played really well and probably should have won the game. But, the mistakes cost them. Bad calls are the norm in the Big Sky and every team has to deal with them. Generally, the better teams will find a way to do that. It is what it is.


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[cats2506]

My argument with SD is that he is unwilling to admit that the 2010 game was thrown into overtime on a bad call in the final moments of the game that gave SAC a TD that should have been a touchback and MSU ball on the 20, the conference confirmed this after the game, just as they will confirm the bad calls in yesterdays game.

BTW MSU overcame that bad call too and won the game.

[Brock Landers]

Arguing with 2506 on anything is a waste of time. He believes what he needs to

[Screamin_Eagle174]

Arguing with 2506 on anything is a waste of time. She believes what she needs to

FIFY.

[cats2506]

Arguing with 2506 on anything is a waste of time. He believes what he needs to

Ha, good comeback for when you can't refute my argument

[Brock Landers]

Arguing with 2506 on anything is a waste of time. He believes what he needs to

Ha, good comeback for when you can't refute my argument

Comeback? I didn't watch the game, I don't care what happened, and I couldn't care less about refuting whatever it is you're talking about. But I certainly trust all of them over your dumb ass

[cats2506]

Ha, good comeback for when you can't refute my argument

Comeback? I didn't watch the game, I don't care what happened, and I couldn't care less about refuting whatever it is you're talking about. But I certainly trust all of them over your dumb ass

Of course, you know nothing but are going to comment on it anway

you never disappoint

[Brock Landers]

Comeback? I didn't watch the game, I don't care what happened, and I couldn't care less about refuting whatever it is you're talking about. But I certainly trust all of them over your dumb ass

Of course, you know nothing but are going to comment on it anway

you never disappoint

Has that ever stopped you? Judging by your thousands of posts on our site, I'd say no

Besides, if Sac had beaten you, it would only be because they stole signals or something right?

Actually, that's my refute. You'll come up with anything to spin the Cats. You're the PR of your kind

(notice the specific use of those three emoticons, in true 2506 style)

[cats2506]

Of course, you know nothing but are going to comment on it anway

you never disappoint

Has that ever stopped you? Judging by your thousands of posts on our site, I'd say no

Besides, if Sac had beaten you, it would only be because they stole signals or something right?

Actually, that's my refute. You'll come up with anything to spin the Cats. You're the PR of your kind

(notice the specific use of those three emoticons, in true 2506 style)

Jeeze, I didnt realize that the Cats winning again would upset you so much, Its OK, you still have 2 more weeks until the fizz offically have a losing season and the last streak is broken.

(notice the use of an emoticon that shows your real emotions)

[Brock Landers]

Upset? I'm having a great time. Now that JiBBles and lakes are gone I have to pick on some other ultra-homer low-hanging fruit

[EWURanger]

Whatever happened to Lakes? I remember Jibbles being banned, but what about the other guy?


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[SDHornet]

My argument with SD is that he is unwilling to admit that the 2010 game was thrown into overtime on a bad call in the final moments of the game that gave SAC a TD that should have been a touchback and MSU ball on the 20, the conference confirmed this after the game, just as they will confirm the bad calls in yesterdays game.

BTW MSU overcame that bad call too and won the game.

WTF does the 2010 game have to do with this one. I don’t get the 2 wrongs make a right idea with this one for occurrences that happened 2 years ago.

If you go back and re-read my first post game post I point out the other aspects of the game that costs us besides the blown TD call. It’s one thing to just say you need to overcome the refs and the other team; it’s another when it’s a top ranked team to overcome along with blown calls. Still claiming that call had no impact on the game is absurd.

And where is this stealing calls thing coming from. This is news to me. And if it did happen, is there a rule against stealing calls. Honest questions.

[Screamin_Eagle174]

2506 and other bitchkitten fans are trying to detract away from the fact that they're right on track for getting blown out by the Griz, and another early playoff exit.

A season ago, Montana State capped October with a resounding trouncing of Idaho State in Bobcat Stadium. In the victory, MSU rushed for 415 yards in a 54-13 demolition of the Bengals, spoiling former MSU head coach Mike Kramer’s return to the Gallatin Valley. Some would say it was the peak performance of MSU’s season.
The next week, Montana State needed a feverish comeback to down Weber State. Two weeks later, the then-No. 1 Bobcats were steamrolled by the Montana Grizzlies in Bozeman, 36-10.

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[cats2506]

My argument with SD is that he is unwilling to admit that the 2010 game was thrown into overtime on a bad call in the final moments of the game that gave SAC a TD that should have been a touchback and MSU ball on the 20, the conference confirmed this after the game, just as they will confirm the bad calls in yesterdays game.

BTW MSU overcame that bad call too and won the game.

WTF does the 2010 game have to do with this one. I don’t get the 2 wrongs make a right idea with this one for occurrences that happened 2 years ago.

If you go back and re-read my first post game post I point out the other aspects of the game that costs us besides the blown TD call. It’s one thing to just say you need to overcome the refs and the other team; it’s another when it’s a top ranked team to overcome along with blown calls. Still claiming that call had no impact on the game is absurd.

And where is this stealing calls thing coming from. This is news to me. And if it did happen, is there a rule against stealing calls. Honest questions.

On the drive in the 4th quarter the Cats pulled your crutch out form under your staff and took the lead

On the drive, Ash had his offense huddle every play — a departure from their normal, no-huddle, hurry-up offense. Ash thought that Sacramento State (6-4, 4-3) figured out their play calls and were stunting at the line accordingly.
“We huddled so we wouldn’t tip our hand,” Ash said. “I thought that was key. They were starting to read us pretty well.”

http://www.bozemandailychronicle.com/sp ... f887a.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

BTW that is a SAC based reporter writing the story

[cats2506]

2. That blown TD call in the first qtr was the difference. We lost by 3, that TD would have given us 4 points. How they miss that clear TD catch by Knowles is beyond me. Of course something like this happens against a team from Montana. I hate to say it but we shouldn’t be surprised.

Here is where the 2010 game comes into play in the conversation.

you are apparently claiming that the bad call is becasue you played a team from Montana and that it is to be expected, yet in the 2010 game I give you an example of the refs actually keeping you in the game and putting it into overtime

I guess we should expect it when we play a Cali team, because we all know they cheat

[SDHornet]

2. That blown TD call in the first qtr was the difference. We lost by 3, that TD would have given us 4 points. How they miss that clear TD catch by Knowles is beyond me. Of course something like this happens against a team from Montana. I hate to say it but we shouldn’t be surprised.

Here is where the 2010 game comes into play in the conversation.

you are apparently claiming that the bad call is becasue you played a team from Montana and that it is to be expected, yet in the 2010 game I give you an example of the refs actually keeping you in the game and putting it into overtime

I guess we should expect it when we play a Cali team, because we all know they cheat

So I guess I should start pulling out some of the bad calls in Bozeman from last season then.

[SDHornet]

On the drive in the 4th quarter the Cats pulled your crutch out form under your staff and took the lead

On the drive, Ash had his offense huddle every play — a departure from their normal, no-huddle, hurry-up offense. Ash thought that Sacramento State (6-4, 4-3) figured out their play calls and were stunting at the line accordingly.
“We huddled so we wouldn’t tip our hand,” Ash said. “I thought that was key. They were starting to read us pretty well.”

http://www.bozemandailychronicle.com/sp ... f887a.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

BTW that is a SAC based reporter writing the story

Is there more proof that signs were being stolen, or is it just speculation at this point?

[cats2506]

Here is where the 2010 game comes into play in the conversation.

you are apparently claiming that the bad call is becasue you played a team from Montana and that it is to be expected, yet in the 2010 game I give you an example of the refs actually keeping you in the game and putting it into overtime

I guess we should expect it when we play a Cali team, because we all know they cheat

So I guess I should start pulling out some of the bad calls in Bozeman from last season then.

I really don't care, but claiming that the reffing is biased against SAC and in favor of the Montana schools just makes you look like a whiny bitch.

Which is my entire point.

[SDHornet]

So I guess I should start pulling out some of the bad calls in Bozeman from last season then.

I really don't care, but claiming that the reffing is biased against SAC and in favor of the Montana schools just makes you look like a whiny bitch.

Which is my entire point.

So back to your original "those 4 points from that bad call had no impact" line of thinking.

[cats2506]

On the drive in the 4th quarter the Cats pulled your crutch out form under your staff and took the lead



http://www.bozemandailychronicle.com/sp ... f887a.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

BTW that is a SAC based reporter writing the story

Is there more proof that signs were being stolen, or is it just speculation at this point?

That statment from coach Ash was way more than enough for me

[SDHornet]

Is there more proof that signs were being stolen, or is it just speculation at this point?

That statment from coach Ash was way more than enough for me

So no actual proof, just a statement. Got it.

[cats2506]

that single call had no more effect than several other bad calls in the game, and other (non reffing) factors had a bigger impact than bad calls on the final outcome of the game.

that should provide some clarification as to my position

Once again for the reading challenged,


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