2013 NFC B/West Thread

[uofmman1122]

I don't hide my team or pretend I don't like my team just to avoid petty fun-poking.

But you basically just admitted exactly what I said. The 49ers and Griz are easily and far-away my favorite sports teams, and it's often hard to know which one I actually like more (especially when both are good, like right now), so maybe the way you view your NFL team is the same way I view my favorite NHL team (It's Detroit, but I honestly don't pay that much attention).

Either way, SE is pretty harmless (and a douchebag, but that's besides the point), so I guess I don't see the point in the runaround about who your team is. Plus, it's way more fun to play along because you actually have ammo and get to rub it in his face when your college team beats his, and then your NFL team gets revenge in December.

His college team hasn't ever beaten mine.

I was more talking to you, anyways.

[Seahawks08]

At the rate your team is going (1 HoFer every 20 years), it will take them at least another 200 years to even be within sniffing distance of my team's current number of Hall of Famers. Your Super Bowl rate will take even longer.... And my team has taken a painfully long sabbatical from the Super Bowl...though they did have their chances over the last 20 years.)

I'll never cheer for a team that you like (what an embarrassment) or a team with fans that think they are the "real" 12th Man. That honor will always belong to Texas A&M. They invented, it's "theirs" as far as I am concerned. Suddenly some bottom-of-the-barrel (I'm talking historically) pro team builds a ridiculous stadium to amplify crowd noise and THEY get to blatantly steal it from Texas A&M? I realize that college football isn't quite as big in the Pacific NW as it is in Texas, but come on. Have some perspective. Are people in Washington really that provincial and nearsighted? (I realize it's not patented but it's just pathetic. )

Furthermore, I will NEVER cheer for a team with a bunch of wannabe Muhammad Alis or wannabe Fab Fives like Richard Sherman who should be SUSPENDED right now. Adderall, my ass. The guy is a trash-talking, petulant scumbag and would barely be the #2 cornerback on my favorite professional football team. I only wish there was a WR who had the balls to cut his knees out when Sherman helps in run support. Just to teach him some respect. It's obviously clear by how he treats his opponents and former coaches that the guy has not one ounce of respect for anyone else in the league.

I had a lost of respect for the Seahawks under Mike Holmgren when they had Alexander and Hasselbeck and Lofa Tatupu, etc. I loved Joey Galloway as a kid. And I really do like a lot of their current guys. I like Russell Wilson. I like Wagner. I like Earl Thomas. But guys like Sherman piss me off. I would try to end that guy's career every time I played against him if I played in the NFL.

Ok, Dolphins fan...was that so hard to say?

You want to end a guy's career over some playful, harmless words? How childish are you?

[rkwittem]

Nope, not the Raiders. I don't hate Seattle. Just this year's crop. If you weren't so arrogant about a team that hasn't won a Super Bowl, I wouldn't be nearly as sick and tired of them as I currently am. One more thing- if you're so bothered by violence and dirty play, don't watch football. Spare us all the pain of listening to you ramble on about it. In any case, I'm only advocating dirty play towards Richard Sherman. The only people that would miss him from the NFL are Seachickens fans. Nobody else would give a rip. Raiders fans aren't the only ones who like seeing a team use any means necessary to intimidate their opponents.

A bison fan calling someone arrogant.

There's nothing wrong with violence in football as long as it's within the rules. Hell, that's part of why I love this current Seahawks team; they're one of the most physical, break-your-will teams in the league. But to advocate dirty play or wish for an injury to a guy simply because he talks shit and backs it up... that's chicken shit, cowardice douchebaggery.

Your team had no issue cut blocking Ian Williams. Where's the outrage over his injury? Own it- you're a hypocrite.

I don't want him hurt because he talks shit. I don't care that he backs it up. There are plenty of other good DBs who don't run their mouths. I'll list a few I'd rather have- Patrick Peterson, Morris Claiborne, Casey Heyward, Brandon Flowers, Charles Tillman, Darrelle Revis, Antonio Cromartie, Brandon Carr, and a few others I've forgotten. Yes, I'm well aware that he's an elite NFL CB. He's also a world-class asshole. He makes Deion Sanders look like the Pope. I want him injured because he's a douchebag. It's not chicken shit either. You'd hate him if he played anywhere else too and don't even pretend that you give credit where credit is due. You live in a Washington-centric universe. I'm just fine with you staying there. Just own it and admit it. I admitted that I'm a douchebag....why lie to yourself and the rest of us? No one is being fooled.

The NFL is better without him. Remember how Trent Williams slugged him after the NFC Wild Card game? Yeah, he wasn't the only guy who wanted to punch him.
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Now, I'm no expert, but that's not cowardice. That's doing what should have been done before, during, and after the game.

I wouldn't expect anything less from you.

You aren't exactly setting the standard for class either. We really have a nice meeting of the pots and the kettles here. You're a douche, I'm a douche- but I'm a douche with a team that's actually got some NFL hardware, back-to-back FCS championships, and certainly not a blatant homer.
Whereas you blindly assume your team is automatically the best at anything because they wear the colors you like, I actually have some perspective on the matter. I will freely and readily admit that my NFL team is a few years away from serious contention. They have some roster issues that won't be rectified for at minimum, 2 years. But they do at least have some impressive history and tradition to hang their hats on. I'm proud of that. Your team, unfortunately has no tradition beyond Steve Largent and stole its greatest "tradition" from Texas A&M.

Before you blindly assume I'm just another "arrogant Bison fan," go read the KSU-NDSU posts on the FCS football section. I predicted NDSU would LOSE to KSU and furthermore, said they had NO chance. The year before that, I said they would lose at home to Youngstown State.

Yes, I'm just another arrogant Bison fan. Why doesn't your team man up and beat Sam Houston State for once?

[rkwittem]

At the rate your team is going (1 HoFer every 20 years), it will take them at least another 200 years to even be within sniffing distance of my team's current number of Hall of Famers. Your Super Bowl rate will take even longer.... And my team has taken a painfully long sabbatical from the Super Bowl...though they did have their chances over the last 20 years.)

I'll never cheer for a team that you like (what an embarrassment) or a team with fans that think they are the "real" 12th Man. That honor will always belong to Texas A&M. They invented, it's "theirs" as far as I am concerned. Suddenly some bottom-of-the-barrel (I'm talking historically) pro team builds a ridiculous stadium to amplify crowd noise and THEY get to blatantly steal it from Texas A&M? I realize that college football isn't quite as big in the Pacific NW as it is in Texas, but come on. Have some perspective. Are people in Washington really that provincial and nearsighted? (I realize it's not patented but it's just pathetic. )

Furthermore, I will NEVER cheer for a team with a bunch of wannabe Muhammad Alis or wannabe Fab Fives like Richard Sherman who should be SUSPENDED right now. Adderall, my ass. The guy is a trash-talking, petulant scumbag and would barely be the #2 cornerback on my favorite professional football team. I only wish there was a WR who had the balls to cut his knees out when Sherman helps in run support. Just to teach him some respect. It's obviously clear by how he treats his opponents and former coaches that the guy has not one ounce of respect for anyone else in the league.

I had a lost of respect for the Seahawks under Mike Holmgren when they had Alexander and Hasselbeck and Lofa Tatupu, etc. I loved Joey Galloway as a kid. And I really do like a lot of their current guys. I like Russell Wilson. I like Wagner. I like Earl Thomas. But guys like Sherman piss me off. I would try to end that guy's career every time I played against him if I played in the NFL.

Ok, Dolphins fan...was that so hard to say?

You want to end a guy's career over some playful, harmless words? How childish are you?

Why not? If it ended today, his career would be mostly irrelevant anyway. He's not going to the Hall. Would you say they were playful and harmless if you weren't a Seachickens fan? Doubt it. Maybe they are playful and harmless. I think they're rude. If he's so confident he should just shut the hell up and play. Jerry Rice didn't need to talk shit to school everyone he faced. Emmitt Smith didn't need to talk shit to run for a 100 yards in every big game the Cowboys needed him to.

I simply don't like the guy. He has no respect for his old coach (you think he makes the league if he goes to Nevada or Washington or Mississippi State instead? I don't.), he skated around the league's suspension with a bogus argument (cheaters never prosper), he talks trash and his Skip Bayless incident really didn't sit well with me. (Read what Bill Simmons said for a complete list of what I didn't like about it.)

Also, not a Dolphins fan.

[Screamin_Eagle174]

There's nothing wrong with violence in football as long as it's within the rules. Hell, that's part of why I love this current Seahawks team; they're one of the most physical, break-your-will teams in the league. But to advocate dirty play or wish for an injury to a guy simply because he talks shit and backs it up... that's chicken shit, cowardice douchebaggery.

Your team had no issue cut blocking Ian Williams. Where's the outrage over his injury? Own it- you're a hypocrite.

The difference being that it wasn't a dirty play, it was completely within the rules. I didn't enjoy that he was hurt... that part is unfortunate.

I don't want him hurt because he talks shit. I don't care that he backs it up. There are plenty of other good DBs who don't run their mouths. I'll list a few I'd rather have- Patrick Peterson, Morris Claiborne, Casey Heyward, Brandon Flowers, Charles Tillman, Darrelle Revis, Antonio Cromartie, Brandon Carr, and a few others I've forgotten. Yes, I'm well aware that he's an elite NFL CB. He's also a world-class asshole. He makes Deion Sanders look like the Pope. I want him injured because he's a douchebag. It's not chicken shit either. You'd hate him if he played anywhere else too and don't even pretend that you give credit where credit is due. You live in a Washington-centric universe. I'm just fine with you staying there. Just own it and admit it. I admitted that I'm a douchebag....why lie to yourself and the rest of us? No one is being fooled.

You think he's a douchebag because he runs his mouth. You want him injured via dirty play because he talks shit, and backs it up... which makes you an ever bigger classless douchebag. If he ran his mouth and didn't back it up and got beat constantly, you wouldn't have a problem with him... he'd be getting his just desserts. Lots of elite athletes talk shit and back it up, so fucking what? Just because you're a blowhard and can't handle that he runs his mouth doesn't mean he deserves to be hurt by a cheap shot on the field. You're a world class asshole, should I wish for a driver to take out your legs when you're crossing the street?

Now, I'm no expert, but that's not cowardice. That's doing what should have been done before, during, and after the game.

It's cowardice, and classlessness. But like I said....

I wouldn't expect anything less from you.

but I'm a douche with a team that's actually got some NFL hardware, back-to-back FCS championships, and certainly not a blatant homer.
Whereas you blindly assume your team is automatically the best at anything because they wear the colors you like, I actually have some perspective on the matter.

You're a douche whose team sucks balls currently, and you're too cowardly to even admit who that team is and openly support them no matter how bad they are. You rely on the past because your team has nothing in the present... you're like a 9ers fan pre 2011. I've been a diehard Hawks fan since I started following the NFL, and proud to admit it even when they sucked in '08 and '09. I don't blindly assume they're the best at anything... that's what you keep interpreting, because you're a dipshit. For example, I never said our WRs are elite... I responded to your pathetic drivel (regrettably) that SEA WRs are "abysmal," when they clearly aren't.

Before you blindly assume I'm just another "arrogant Bison fan," go read the KSU-NDSU posts on the FCS football section. I predicted NDSU would LOSE to KSU and furthermore, said they had NO chance. The year before that, I said they would lose at home to Youngstown State.

You're arrogant AND a fuckin' idiot. Congrats.

[Screamin_Eagle174]

I simply don't like the guy. He has no respect for his old coach (you think he makes the league if he goes to Nevada or Washington or Mississippi State instead? I don't.), he skated around the league's suspension with a bogus argument (cheaters never prosper), he talks trash and his Skip Bayless incident really didn't sit well with me. (Read what Bill Simmons said for a complete list of what I didn't like about it.)

Also, not a Dolphins fan.

A lot of Harbaugh's former players don't respect him... it's because he's an arrogant douchebag, just like you (which explains why you love him so much). Harbaugh demoted Sherman to the bottom of the WR depth chart at Stanford because he elected to have surgery for an injury, when Harbaugh didn't want him to. Not to mention Harbaugh, who should've known Sherman's ability more than anyone, passed on him time and time again in the draft. He didn't make it into the league because he went to Stanford, he made it into the league because he was thought to have NFL talent (by one team at least). Same reason guys from no name FCS and D-II schools make it into the NFL... they have NFL talent.

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Doug Baldwin, when asked if he liked Harbaugh on Seattle radio a month or two back, paused and said, "he's a great coach..." and left it at that. I asked him in person at an autograph signing if he thought Harbaugh was a douchebag, to which he replied "no comment."

[Seahawks08]

Steelers
Patriots
Broncos
Raiders
Dolphins
Colts
Ravens
Chiefs
Jets

So with the information we have gotten from you, the Pats, Broncos, Raiders, Phins, and Ravens have been eliminated.

In other words, you are either a Jets, Chiefs, or Colts fan. And with your hesitancy to answer the question, I am strongly leaning towards the Jets.

[rkwittem]

Steelers
Patriots
Broncos
Raiders
Dolphins
Colts
Ravens
Chiefs
Jets

So with the information we have gotten from you, the Pats, Broncos, Raiders, Phins, and Ravens have been eliminated.

In other words, you are either a Jets, Chiefs, or Colts fan. And with your hesitancy to answer the question, I am strongly leaning towards the Jets.

I don't know why it matters. All of those teams have more Super Bowl rings than the Seahawks.

[rkwittem]

The difference being that it wasn't a dirty play, it was completely within the rules. I didn't enjoy that he was hurt... that part is unfortunate.

Then why did Collinsworth take issue with it? Why does Patrick Willis have an issue with it? (Don't give me the "he plays for the 49ers" BS. The guy is one of the most respected players in the league.)

You think he's a douchebag because he runs his mouth. You want him injured via dirty play because he talks shit, and backs it up... which makes you an ever bigger classless douchebag. If he ran his mouth and didn't back it up and got beat constantly, you wouldn't have a problem with him... he'd be getting his just desserts. Lots of elite athletes talk shit and back it up, so fucking what? Just because you're a blowhard and can't handle that he runs his mouth doesn't mean he deserves to be hurt by a cheap shot on the field. You're a world class asshole, should I wish for a driver to take out your legs when you're crossing the street?

No, I want him injured because he's an egotistical prick who acts like he's the next Deion Sanders when he's not even the current Darrelle Revis or Patrick Peterson. The problem is that Deion never trashed Bobby Bowden publicly that I am aware of. Deion at least had some modicum of class. Sherman is just a loudmouth fuck who should be suspended right now. That's my overwhelming source of hatred for Sherman. He's the Ryan Braun of the NFL. I'm surehe took adderall. Sure he did....just like Percy Harvin is going to magically be healthy a month ahead of schedule, amirite?

You're a douche whose team sucks balls currently, and you're too cowardly to even admit who that team is and openly support them no matter how bad they are. You rely on the past because your team has nothing in the present... you're like a 9ers fan pre 2011. I've been a diehard Hawks fan since I started following the NFL, and proud to admit it even when they sucked in '08 and '09. I don't blindly assume they're the best at anything... that's what you keep interpreting, because you're a dipshit. For example, I never said our WRs are elite... I responded to your pathetic drivel (regrettably) that SEA WRs are "abysmal," when they clearly aren't.

You're right, they'd be lucky to be abysmal. If they had any QBs worse than Russell Wilson they would be an atrocious passing team. I'm pretty sure there are at least 5 college teams with better wide receivers at the moment. Texas A&M (Evans, Seals-Jones, Gonzalez, etc.), USC (Lee, Agoholor), LSU (Landry, Boone, Beckham), Oklahoma (Reynolds, Saunders, Shepard)...who knows....maybe there are more. That's just off the top of my head.
Thank god the Jets and Chiefs are there to ensure that the Seahawks aren't the god-awful worst in the league at WR. (If Santonio Holmes was totally healthy I might move them above the Seahawks...)

I think you're just mad that I won't tell you who my favorite team is because you can't spew any of your drivel and take any weak potshots at them, so you have to resort to calling me a douche. You whine about how I'm a douche so you respond by being a douche. It might be for the best if you just shut your mouth and hope the Seachickens cash that big fat check your mouth is writing at the moment. Because if they don't, rest assured that I will remind you. Regardless of how seriously you take me or not, I am 100% convinced it will still piss you off.

[Screamin_Eagle174]

The difference being that it wasn't a dirty play, it was completely within the rules. I didn't enjoy that he was hurt... that part is unfortunate.

Then why did Collinsworth take issue with it? Why does Patrick Willis have an issue with it? (Don't give me the "he plays for the 49ers" BS. The guy is one of the most respected players in the league.)

You think he's a douchebag because he runs his mouth. You want him injured via dirty play because he talks shit, and backs it up... which makes you an ever bigger classless douchebag. If he ran his mouth and didn't back it up and got beat constantly, you wouldn't have a problem with him... he'd be getting his just desserts. Lots of elite athletes talk shit and back it up, so fucking what? Just because you're a blowhard and can't handle that he runs his mouth doesn't mean he deserves to be hurt by a cheap shot on the field. You're a world class asshole, should I wish for a driver to take out your legs when you're crossing the street?

No, I want him injured because he's an egotistical prick who acts like he's the next Deion Sanders when he's not even the current Darrelle Revis or Patrick Peterson. The problem is that Deion never trashed Bobby Bowden publicly that I am aware of. Deion at least had some modicum of class. Sherman is just a loudmouth fuck who should be suspended right now. That's my overwhelming source of hatred for Sherman. He's the Ryan Braun of the NFL. I'm surehe took adderall. Sure he did....just like Percy Harvin is going to magically be healthy a month ahead of schedule, amirite?

You're a douche whose team sucks balls currently, and you're too cowardly to even admit who that team is and openly support them no matter how bad they are. You rely on the past because your team has nothing in the present... you're like a 9ers fan pre 2011. I've been a diehard Hawks fan since I started following the NFL, and proud to admit it even when they sucked in '08 and '09. I don't blindly assume they're the best at anything... that's what you keep interpreting, because you're a dipshit. For example, I never said our WRs are elite... I responded to your pathetic drivel (regrettably) that SEA WRs are "abysmal," when they clearly aren't.

You're right, they'd be lucky to be abysmal. If they had any QBs worse than Russell Wilson they would be an atrocious passing team. I'm pretty sure there are at least 5 college teams with better wide receivers at the moment. Texas A&M (Evans, Seals-Jones, Gonzalez, etc.), USC (Lee, Agoholor), LSU (Landry, Boone, Beckham), Oklahoma (Reynolds, Saunders, Shepard)...who knows....maybe there are more. That's just off the top of my head.
Thank god the Jets and Chiefs are there to ensure that the Seahawks aren't the god-awful worst in the league at WR. (If Santonio Holmes was totally healthy I might move them above the Seahawks...)

I think you're just mad that I won't tell you who my favorite team is because you can't spew any of your drivel and take any weak potshots at them, so you have to resort to calling me a douche. You whine about how I'm a douche so you respond by being a douche. It might be for the best if you just shut your mouth and hope the Seachickens cash that big fat check your mouth is writing at the moment. Because if they don't, rest assured that I will remind you. Regardless of how seriously you take me or not, I am 100% convinced it will still piss you off.

Your delusions, douchebaggery, and hyperbole just keep getting more outlandish. Thanks for the entertainment, JBB!

I couldn't care less who your team is. They're no one of significance, which is why you're too embarrassed to claim them. You're butthurt because the Hawks are significantly better, and aren't ashamed to let everyone know it.

Collinsworth also noted that it was a completely legal play. You honestly think that NFL teams aren't going to engage in a certain play if it's legal and can give them an advantage? Hell, you probably think that no one on your team takes anything banned by the NFL.

[Seahawks08]

You're right, they'd be lucky to be abysmal. If they had any QBs worse than Russell Wilson they would be an atrocious passing team. I'm pretty sure there are at least 5 college teams with better wide receivers at the moment. Texas A&M (Evans, Seals-Jones, Gonzalez, etc.), USC (Lee, Agoholor), LSU (Landry, Boone, Beckham), Oklahoma (Reynolds, Saunders, Shepard)...who knows....maybe there are more. That's just off the top of my head.
Thank god the Jets and Chiefs are there to ensure that the Seahawks aren't the god-awful worst in the league at WR. (If Santonio Holmes was totally healthy I might move them above the Seahawks...)

Seriously, lay off the crack. The Hawks' WRs are better than the Jets, Chiefs, Raiders, Bills, Dolphins, Vikings, Panthers, Browns, and Titans. And that's just off the top of my head. And you even thinking college schools have better WRs than NFL teams settles the argument that you sir, are completely delusional.

[rkwittem]

Your delusions, douchebaggery, and hyperbole just keep getting more outlandish. Thanks for the entertainment, JBB!

I couldn't care less who your team is. They're no one of significance, which is why you're too embarrassed to claim them. You're butthurt because the Hawks are significantly better, and aren't ashamed to let everyone know it.

Then why do you and your sidekick keep bringing it up if you don't care? If you don't care, stop bringing it up. I don't have to tell you, I won't tell you and I see no reason to tell you. Kiss my team's Championship trophies and dream about cheering for a team that actually has one....
Last time I checked, your team has NO NFL CHAMPIONSHIPS to its name! NONE. ZERO! ZILCH! NADA! 0. Less than 1. (I think I make myself clear.) The Dallas Cowboys have put more guys in the Hall of Fame over the last 10 years than your team has in 40 years of existence! And somehow, some way, "the Hawks are significantly better" because they have won two playoff games in 5 years? Spare me. They're good, sure. But they look more like the early 2000's Philadelphia Eagles. Except the Eagles only had one assclown on their team (T.O.) for one year. Oh, and they actually won playoff games outside their time zone. And to think, Eagles fans get a bad rap when there are morons like you out there! At least Eagles fans know what they're talking about.

Collinsworth also noted that it was a completely legal play. You honestly think that NFL teams aren't going to engage in a certain play if it's legal and can give them an advantage? Hell, you probably think that no one on your team takes anything banned by the NFL.

And NOW we get to the point that every fan of a team full of cheaters use. "Everyone's doing it!" Well, unfortunately that doesn't make it right. If half the league was on steroids, you'd be cool with that, right? Especially if one of them was a guy like Wilson or Lynch or Chancellor or Clemons.

I didn't say that no one on my team takes it, and it certainly wouldn't justify it if it does (you just tried to justify Sherman's PED problem by saying everyone else is doing it- your words, not mine). I only said that I hate Richard Sherman especially because he shirked the rules, implicated himself by saying "half the league takes adderall" after testing positive for something (we just don't know what because the NFL won't say) and doesn't have the balls to take his medicine like a grownup. I can hardly wait for the day when he is all talk, no walk and he gets routinely torched by average wide receivers later on in his career. I'll try not to enjoy it too much.

So Collinsworth noted it's in the rules. What an awesome advantage. Let's just injure the other team's offensive linemen. I'm sure you won't complain when the 49ers cut the knees out of Chris Clemons when he gets back from his ACL surgery...or whoever the poor bastard is that gets that treatment from SF's offensive line. After all, it's legal- therefore it's completely right and in good sportsmanship. Don't forget that I said that I wanted Sherman to get cut blocked. It's legal after all. So he blows out his knee or breaks his leg. Some loss. Won't hurt me a bit. You said it's fine since it's legal. I think that's a fair trade. Your team gets away with a cheap legal play, and someone returns the favor to the Seahawks' mouthiest player...hopefully ending his season. But again, it's legal. So it's totally fine. An eye for an eye....

[rkwittem]

You're right, they'd be lucky to be abysmal. If they had any QBs worse than Russell Wilson they would be an atrocious passing team. I'm pretty sure there are at least 5 college teams with better wide receivers at the moment. Texas A&M (Evans, Seals-Jones, Gonzalez, etc.), USC (Lee, Agoholor), LSU (Landry, Boone, Beckham), Oklahoma (Reynolds, Saunders, Shepard)...who knows....maybe there are more. That's just off the top of my head.
Thank god the Jets and Chiefs are there to ensure that the Seahawks aren't the god-awful worst in the league at WR. (If Santonio Holmes was totally healthy I might move them above the Seahawks...)

Seriously, lay off the crack. The Hawks' WRs are better than the Jets, Chiefs, Raiders, Bills, Dolphins, Vikings, Panthers, Browns, and Titans. And that's just off the top of my head. And you even thinking college schools have better WRs than NFL teams settles the argument that you sir, are completely delusional.

They aren't better than Miami's. Mike Wallace is a legitimate deep threat. Brian Hartline is a good move the chains wide receiver. Charles Clay plays like 6 positions for them, but is listed at TE. Dustin Keller when healthy is better than any Seahawks TE. Rather have Miami's.

The Raiders actually might have a case as the worst WRs. I just haven't seen them with a real QB so I'll give them the benefit of the doubt. The Seahawks would still have the worst passing offense in the league with the Raiders' WRs. Yeah, the Raiders had more passing yardage last year than the Seahawks.

The Browns have Jordan Cameron and Greg Little and Davone Bess and Josh Gordon. If they didn't have Weeden, this would be no contest. Next team...

What's so absurd about suggesting that college teams have more quality WRs? Of course they can't play in the NFL right now. At least 3 of them aren't draft-eligible, for starters. They need coaching. But they have more raw talent than most of the bums on Seattle's roster. I am really going to laugh if Seattle acquires one or more of them to replace anyone currently listed at WR on their current roster. But back to my first point- it's not unheard of for college teams to be ridiculously talented at certain skill groups. The 2001 Miami team had better TE's than almost every NFL did at the time. (Shockey, Winslow, Eric Winston before the move to OT.) They had better RBs than most NFL teams (Portis, McGahee, Gore). It's not unheard of. I won't be the least bit shocked if every one of those WRs ends up on a NFL roster in the next 5 years. Do you even watch any of those teams? Those guys are seriously talented WRs and NFL teams will draft and sign them soon. Stephen Williams? Juron Criner? I can't guarantee they'll be in the NFL in 4 years...but most of those WRs I just listed will be NFL guys.

Considering they only have to be league-average to be better than Seattle's WRs, I don't think that's too big of a stretch. They don't have to be Larry Fitzgerald to be better than Doug Baldwin or Sidney Rice or Golden Tate.

[Screamin_Eagle174]

Your delusions, douchebaggery, and hyperbole just keep getting more outlandish. Thanks for the entertainment, JBB!

I couldn't care less who your team is. They're no one of significance, which is why you're too embarrassed to claim them. You're butthurt because the Hawks are significantly better, and aren't ashamed to let everyone know it.

Then why do you and your sidekick keep bringing it up if you don't care? If you don't care, stop bringing it up. I don't have to tell you, I won't tell you and I see no reason to tell you. Kiss my team's Championship trophies and dream about cheering for a team that actually has one....
Last time I checked, your team has NO NFL CHAMPIONSHIPS to its name! NONE. ZERO! ZILCH! NADA! 0. Less than 1. (I think I make myself clear.) The Dallas Cowboys have put more guys in the Hall of Fame over the last 10 years than your team has in 40 years of existence! And somehow, some way, "the Hawks are significantly better" because they have won two playoff games in 5 years? Spare me. They're good, sure. But they look more like the early 2000's Philadelphia Eagles. Except the Eagles only had one assclown on their team (T.O.) for one year. Oh, and they actually won playoff games outside their time zone. And to think, Eagles fans get a bad rap when there are morons like you out there! At least Eagles fans know what they're talking about.

Collinsworth also noted that it was a completely legal play. You honestly think that NFL teams aren't going to engage in a certain play if it's legal and can give them an advantage? Hell, you probably think that no one on your team takes anything banned by the NFL.

And NOW we get to the point that every fan of a team full of cheaters use. "Everyone's doing it!" Well, unfortunately that doesn't make it right. If half the league was on steroids, you'd be cool with that, right? Especially if one of them was a guy like Wilson or Lynch or Chancellor or Clemons.

I didn't say that no one on my team takes it, and it certainly wouldn't justify it if it does (you just tried to justify Sherman's PED problem by saying everyone else is doing it- your words, not mine). I only said that I hate Richard Sherman especially because he shirked the rules, implicated himself by saying "half the league takes adderall" after testing positive for something (we just don't know what because the NFL won't say) and doesn't have the balls to take his medicine like a grownup. I can hardly wait for the day when he is all talk, no walk and he gets routinely torched by average wide receivers later on in his career. I'll try not to enjoy it too much.

So Collinsworth noted it's in the rules. What an awesome advantage. Let's just injure the other team's offensive linemen. I'm sure you won't complain when the 49ers cut the knees out of Chris Clemons when he gets back from his ACL surgery...or whoever the poor bastard is that gets that treatment from SF's offensive line. After all, it's legal- therefore it's completely right and in good sportsmanship. Don't forget that I said that I wanted Sherman to get cut blocked. It's legal after all. So he blows out his knee or breaks his leg. Some loss. Won't hurt me a bit. You said it's fine since it's legal. I think that's a fair trade. Your team gets away with a cheap legal play, and someone returns the favor to the Seahawks' mouthiest player...hopefully ending his season. But again, it's legal. So it's totally fine. An eye for an eye....

[uofmman1122]

I want to post more about the NFC West, but I'm afraid I can't hit the 2,000 word required minimum anymore.

Carry on.

[Screamin_Eagle174]

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It is Smith’s second such arrest, the first having occurred in January 2012 in Miami Beach. That charge was later reduced to reckless driving, and Smith has since been involved in several other off-field incidents.

No one was hurt in Friday’s 7:00 a.m. incident in the Silver Creek area, Sgt. Heather Randol said. It was not immediately clear if Smith was booked and released, posted bail or remains in custody.

Marijuana and pills also were found in the car, sources said. Mercury News sources state that Smith has a prescription for the marijuana, and that failed a breathalyzer test with a 0.15 reading after crashing into a tree.

Smith is being sued by two plaintiffs regarding gunshot injuries they sustained at a June 2012 party at Smith’s San Jose home. Smith sustained multiple stab wounds himself at the party, and his suspected assailant has since been apprehended.

Two nights before the 49ers’ 2012 home opener, Smith was a passenger in a single-car accident near his house, and he sustained a cut above his eye.

Smith’s arrest Friday marked the fifth DUI-related arrested involving a 49ers player in the past 2 ½ years.

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[dbackjon]

Aldon Smith - dumbass. Needs to be suspended for 4 games, minimum

[rkwittem]

[Seahawks08]

They aren't better than Miami's. Mike Wallace is a legitimate deep threat. Brian Hartline is a good move the chains wide receiver. Charles Clay plays like 6 positions for them, but is listed at TE. Dustin Keller when healthy is better than any Seahawks TE. Rather have Miami's.

The Raiders actually might have a case as the worst WRs. I just haven't seen them with a real QB so I'll give them the benefit of the doubt. The Seahawks would still have the worst passing offense in the league with the Raiders' WRs. Yeah, the Raiders had more passing yardage last year than the Seahawks.

The Browns have Jordan Cameron and Greg Little and Davone Bess and Josh Gordon. If they didn't have Weeden, this would be no contest. Next team...

What's so absurd about suggesting that college teams have more quality WRs? Of course they can't play in the NFL right now. At least 3 of them aren't draft-eligible, for starters. They need coaching. But they have more raw talent than most of the bums on Seattle's roster. I am really going to laugh if Seattle acquires one or more of them to replace anyone currently listed at WR on their current roster. But back to my first point- it's not unheard of for college teams to be ridiculously talented at certain skill groups. The 2001 Miami team had better TE's than almost every NFL did at the time. (Shockey, Winslow, Eric Winston before the move to OT.) They had better RBs than most NFL teams (Portis, McGahee, Gore). It's not unheard of. I won't be the least bit shocked if every one of those WRs ends up on a NFL roster in the next 5 years. Do you even watch any of those teams? Those guys are seriously talented WRs and NFL teams will draft and sign them soon. Stephen Williams? Juron Criner? I can't guarantee they'll be in the NFL in 4 years...but most of those WRs I just listed will be NFL guys.

Considering they only have to be league-average to be better than Seattle's WRs, I don't think that's too big of a stretch. They don't have to be Larry Fitzgerald to be better than Doug Baldwin or Sidney Rice or Golden Tate.

Mike Wallace is shit. He has had a couple of good games over the past year, but is no where near what he used to be. Hartline is on par with Rice and Tate.

Greg little is shit. Bess is shit. Cameron needs to prove he's legit (2 games isn't enough). But I will grant you Gordon is really good. But I don't want to go down the road with one great WR and crap behind them because then we could add teams like the lions and bears. I included the browns since Gordon isn't as good as the other top WR, so Seattle overall has a better WR set.

As for college, I was taking your WR group per team, not the top WR from the entire country. No team in college has an NFL core.

And talking about replacing WRs at the end of the year, Tate is in a contract year so he better start producing if he wants to stick around.

[Seahawks08]

There should be one in there. You know why.

[uofmman1122]

The playoffs in general seem like a reasonable goal right now.

[Screamin_Eagle174]

Great Sunday so far!

[Screamin_Eagle174]

Rkdimwitten, let's hear more about how SF's WR corp is better than Seattle's.

[Screamin_Eagle174]

[clenz]

49er fans now know what's it's like to put up with a QB that plays like Ponder...if only for a game.

97 yards passing going into their last offensive drive...


I can't too hard, Ponder has had multiple games under that.....