Majority of Americans Support Legalization of Pot

[Chizzang]

You cannot simultaneously be a pro-gun Republican and be Anti-pot

While I can use guns and pot for recreation (not recommended simultaneously), I can only use one for protection. You can't be serious Cleets. That's the worst arguement I've ever seen you make here.

Have a sip of coffee 89 and slip your zippy cap on

I am not arguing that Marijuana and guns are used for the same purposes
And I'm not sure how you came up with that?

they are obviously two different things / but they share the same issues...
as I showed and you could not quite grasp

As I pointed out - YOU
are the only type who can even claim to musters up a legitimate debate
whilst pretending to be logical and simultaneously ignoring the blatant similarities

Please check again 89hen
Are you capable of separating your emotions from the actual debate

[89Hen]

While I can use guns and pot for recreation (not recommended simultaneously), I can only use one for protection. You can't be serious Cleets. That's the worst arguement I've ever seen you make here.

Have a sip of coffee 89 and slip your zippy cap on

I am not arguing that Marijuana and guns are used for the same purposes
And I'm not sure how you came up with that?

they are obviously two different things / but they share the same issues...
as I showed and you could not quite grasp

As I pointed out - YOU
are the only type who can even claim to musters up a legitimate debate
whilst pretending to be logical and simultaneously ignoring the blatant similarities

Please check again 89hen
Are you capable of separating your emotions from the actual debate

Exactly what emotion? I don't have a dog in this fight. I don't own guns, but can see why people want them. I don't smoke pot, but can see why people want to. Your exact statement was "You cannot simultaneously be a pro-gun Republican and be Anti-pot" and I just showed you that you CAN. If you believe the right to bear arms is for protection, you can be for that right without having to be pro-pot. Surely you can see that now.

[Chizzang]

Have a sip of coffee 89 and slip your zippy cap on

I am not arguing that Marijuana and guns are used for the same purposes
And I'm not sure how you came up with that?

they are obviously two different things / but they share the same issues...
as I showed and you could not quite grasp

As I pointed out - YOU
are the only type who can even claim to musters up a legitimate debate
whilst pretending to be logical and simultaneously ignoring the blatant similarities

Please check again 89hen
Are you capable of separating your emotions from the actual debate

Exactly what emotion? I don't have a dog in this fight. I don't own guns, but can see why people want them. I don't smoke pot, but can see why people want to. Your exact statement was "You cannot simultaneously be a pro-gun Republican and be Anti-pot" and I just showed you that you CAN. If you believe the right to bear arms is for protection, you can be for that right without having to be pro-pot. Surely you can see that now.

Not exactly...
What I see is called a hypocrite

[Gil Dobie]

This a fantastically dumb post.

Smoking $500 of weed in a month is almost impossible.

I've seen it done.

That's only $25 per day for 20 days out of the month.

[Gil Dobie]

zero people who injured themselves on pot.

I've seen plenty of drunks and stoned people injure themselves. I find it hard to believe you've never seen one.

Me too, Kalm any not be hanging with as bad of crowd as we did.

[Gil Dobie]

What are you suggesting here?

That alcohol is more dangerous than pot, and it's not even close. Anyone who argues against that is in denial.

Unless you live in El Paso

[89Hen]

Exactly what emotion? I don't have a dog in this fight. I don't own guns, but can see why people want them. I don't smoke pot, but can see why people want to. Your exact statement was "You cannot simultaneously be a pro-gun Republican and be Anti-pot" and I just showed you that you CAN. If you believe the right to bear arms is for protection, you can be for that right without having to be pro-pot. Surely you can see that now.

Not exactly...
What I see is called a hypocrite

I don't believe that for a second, unless you don't think it's valid for somebody to believe that owning a gun can help protect them.

A hypocrite is somebody who is for the legalization of pot, but not other drugs.

[Grizalltheway]

Not exactly...
What I see is called a hypocrite

I don't believe that for a second, unless you don't think it's valid for somebody to believe that owning a gun can help protect them.

A hypocrite is somebody who is for the legalization of pot, but not other drugs.

Or someone who regulary brews and drinks his own beer but doesn't think pot should be legal.

[89Hen]

I don't believe that for a second, unless you don't think it's valid for somebody to believe that owning a gun can help protect them.

A hypocrite is somebody who is for the legalization of pot, but not other drugs.

Or someone who regulary brews and drinks his own beer but doesn't think pot should be legal.

1. Beer is legal
2. Where did I say pot shouldn't be legal?

I really fall into CID90's camp of:

I just dont understand why more peoples' intelligence isn't insulted by some of the justifications of why it shouldn't be illegal. There is only one justification needed- people should be free to do what they want with their bodies as long as it doesn't hurt anyone else.

All the arguments I've seen for the legalization of pot by using alcohol as an analogy are MUCH closer to making a case why both should be illegal, not why both should be legal.

[houndawg]

Said it before...pot's worse than booze...

...in excess, both destroy families and lives...

...difference is...the drunk wakes up and asks, "What am I doing?"...

...the stoner wakes up and asks, "Where's my pipe?"

Denial and rationalization is much worse for pot abusers.

This past Monday, I spoke with an old friend who confided his house is in foreclosure...

...he spends almost $500/mo on pot. When I suggested he reform himself and stop getting high, he replied, "No...I NEED pot to maintain."

At 54 yrs (divorced, empty nester), he'll be moving in with his 70's parents next month.

Weak

****

Die

Young

You have some stupid fvcking friends.


Dude could smoke for free and pay off his mortgage early with a small indoor system.

[Chizzang]

Or someone who regulary brews and drinks his own beer but doesn't think pot should be legal.

1. Beer is legal
2. Where did I say pot shouldn't be legal?

I really fall into CID90's camp of:

I just dont understand why more peoples' intelligence isn't insulted by some of the justifications of why it shouldn't be illegal. There is only one justification needed- people should be free to do what they want with their bodies as long as it doesn't hurt anyone else.

All the arguments I've seen for the legalization of pot by using alcohol as an analogy are MUCH closer to making a case why both should be illegal, not why both should be legal.

Thank you

[89Hen]

1. Beer is legal
2. Where did I say pot shouldn't be legal?

I really fall into CID90's camp of:



All the arguments I've seen for the legalization of pot by using alcohol as an analogy are MUCH closer to making a case why both should be illegal, not why both should be legal.

Thank you

No sweat. Just trying to help a guy who can't distinguish betwee gun rights and pot.

[Grizalltheway]

Or someone who regulary brews and drinks his own beer but doesn't think pot should be legal.

1. Beer is legal
2. Where did I say pot shouldn't be legal?

I really fall into CID90's camp of:

I just dont understand why more peoples' intelligence isn't insulted by some of the justifications of why it shouldn't be illegal. There is only one justification needed- people should be free to do what they want with their bodies as long as it doesn't hurt anyone else.

All the arguments I've seen for the legalization of pot by using alcohol as an analogy are MUCH closer to making a case why both should be illegal, not why both should be legal.

I personally think alcohol and pot should both be legal, and treated equally in the eyes of the law/government. The reason I compare the two is to point out the hipocrisy of laws that allow one but not the other.

[kalm]

1. Beer is legal
2. Where did I say pot shouldn't be legal?

I really fall into CID90's camp of:



All the arguments I've seen for the legalization of pot by using alcohol as an analogy are MUCH closer to making a case why both should be illegal, not why both should be legal.

I personally think alcohol and pot should both be legal, and treated equally in the eyes of the law/government. The reason I compare the two is to point out the hipocrisy of laws that allow one but not the other.

Not to mention that what started the comparison was an anti legalization guy (tman) making the comparison.

[Chizzang]

Thank you

No sweat. Just trying to help a guy who can't distinguish betwee gun rights and pot.

from a guy who can't see the glaring fundamental rights similarities

gosh thanks / I am glad you've done a complete 180 however over the past 12 months

[kalm]

No sweat. Just trying to help a guy who can't distinguish betwee gun rights and pot.

from a guy who can't see the glaring fundamental rights similarities

gosh thanks

You have the right to bare arms partly to protect against an over-reaching government that might insist you don't have the right to consume something that can grow naturally in your back yard...or something like that?

[89Hen]

from a guy who can't see the glaring fundamental rights similarities

gosh thanks

You have the right to bare arms partly to protect against an over-reaching government that might insist you don't have the right to consume something that can grow naturally in your back yard...or something like that?

You wrapped everything up in a nice, tidy bundle.

BTW, wouldn't the right to bare arms be more geared to Mediterranean women?

[89Hen]

from a guy who can't see the glaring fundamental rights similarities

No way I'm letting you off that easy Cleets. You went flying past "similarities" to the aboslute that you CANNOT be for one and against the other. I'm not sure why guns entered this discussion at all anyway.

[89Hen]

1. Beer is legal
2. Where did I say pot shouldn't be legal?

I really fall into CID90's camp of:



All the arguments I've seen for the legalization of pot by using alcohol as an analogy are MUCH closer to making a case why both should be illegal, not why both should be legal.

I personally think alcohol and pot should both be legal, and treated equally in the eyes of the law/government. The reason I compare the two is to point out the hipocrisy of laws that allow one but not the other.

You've never seen me say pot shouldn't be legal. I just see a lot more problems with it being legal than several of you.

[kalm]

You have the right to bare arms partly to protect against an over-reaching government that might insist you don't have the right to consume something that can grow naturally in your back yard...or something like that?

You wrapped everything up in a nice, tidy bundle.

BTW, wouldn't the right to bare arms be more geared to Medierranean women?

Shit...directional school education...

[Grizalltheway]

I personally think alcohol and pot should both be legal, and treated equally in the eyes of the law/government. The reason I compare the two is to point out the hipocrisy of laws that allow one but not the other.

You've never seen me say pot shouldn't be legal. I just see a lot more problems with it being legal than several of you.

Fair enough. Like Ibanez said, at least now we can see how it works out in two fairly populous states and go from there.

[Chizzang]

from a guy who can't see the glaring fundamental rights similarities

No way I'm letting you off that easy Cleets. You went flying past "similarities" to the aboslute that you CANNOT be for one and against the other. I'm not sure why guns entered this discussion at all anyway.

You cannot be for one and against the other and not be a complete hypocrite...
Because the societal problems that come with them are virtually identical

Gun trafficking / a lively multibillion dollar market in the U.S.
Marijuana trafficking / A lively multibillioon dollar market in the U.S.

Guns and Personal accountability (it's a big deal)
Marijuana and personal accountability (it's a big deal)

Gun related issues / blaming the guns instead of the idiot person
Marijuana issues / Blaming the drug instead of the idiot drug user

I could go on for a week
All the reasons Republicans use against Marijuana Legalization
are also used by Liberals against guns

It's like listening to the same argument with just one word changed (Insert Marijuana)



There is no good reason Marijana should NOT be legal for adults
There is no good reason guns should NOT be legal for adults
It's about RIGHTS

[BDKJMU]

Tax away!!

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Doesn't matter what the majority of people think.

What matters is what the majority of voters think (that is people who are registered and bother to show up and vote, esp in mid term & non fed elections). So far the majority of voters in 2 states have spoken. I say leave it up to the states. Anything that isn't directly addressed in the constitution should be left up to the states.

[BDKJMU]

Seems to me that there is a positive domino effect to legalizing marijuana. In theory, legalizing the sale and possession will keep the users out of prisons (which will have positive effects when those people go for jobs or try to keep a job), the product will be regulated making it weaker, the product will be taxed, which will be a bonus for local and state taxes, the success of cannabis providers will be extra income for the Feds, etc..

But, i'm sure there are downsides. Just because Colorado makes it legal doesn't mean a company in Colorado won't fire you for failing a drug test. Furthermore, you can smoke a bowl on Tuesday and test positive days later.

Let's get a few court cases settled and see how these laws in Washington and Colorado affect the population and it's statistics. Baby steps....baby steps.

Pot users in prisons People in prisons are usually convicted felons serving over a year. Simple users in prisons has to be extremely rare if non existent. I'm sure you can scour the internet to find exceptions, but usually its just a misdemeanor ticket, little to no jail time..

[BDKJMU]

from a guy who can't see the glaring fundamental rights similarities

gosh thanks

You have the right to bare arms partly to protect against an over-reaching government that might insist you don't have the right to consume something that can grow naturally in your back yard...or something like that?

Damn right.