Proud Potheads Pushback: Public Perceives Problem "Stoners"

[kalm]

Many pot smokers are health nuts. They eat lots of Kale and free range chicken. Instead of sleeping off an alcohol induced hangover most of the day, they tend to get up early and go for a mountain bike ride, snowshoeing, working in their organic garden and such.

Good for them.
They get to go home with a star today.



So it's OK to stereotype when it fits your argument?
Sounds like something 89Hen would say, right?

Shut up ya drunk!

[Cap'n Cat]

If anyone here believe Tman is NOT a stoner, don't believe him. Suspect, to the contrary, that he is heavily invested in Marin County weed-growing operations. I applaud him for this, but the doublespeak is disappointing (and typical of Conks).

[travelinman67]

If anyone here believe Tman is NOT a stoner, don't believe him. Suspect, to the contrary, that he is heavily invested in Marin County weed-growing operations. I applaud him for this, but the doublespeak is disappointing (and typical of Conks).

Missed the mark by miles.

Shows how little you know.

[CAA Flagship]

Good for them.
They get to go home with a star today.



So it's OK to stereotype when it fits your argument?
Sounds like something 89Hen would say, right?

Shut up ya drunk!

<Hiccup> Wha?

[CAA Flagship]

And yet you still have no argument that I can discern..?
Can you post your actual point in one clear sentence???

We are forced to share the healthcare costs of our fellow citizens, and AFTER such a law is enacted, we legalize something that has known (and unknown) health hazards. And this product is not required to have strong warnings that come with other products of equal health hazards.

Is that clear enough for you? Again, I'm not against the personal choice to use pot. I'm against the apparent contradiction that it has with the required participation in the ACA. What's next, the elimination of seat belts?

[Chizzang]

And yet you still have no argument that I can discern..?
Can you post your actual point in one clear sentence???

We are forced to share the healthcare costs of our fellow citizens, and AFTER such a law is enacted, we legalize something that has known (and unknown) health hazards. And this product is not required to have strong warnings that come with other products of equal health hazards.

Is that clear enough for you? Again, I'm not against the personal choice to use pot. I'm against the apparent contradiction that it has with the required participation in the ACA. What's next, the elimination of seat belts?

But both states that have legalized Marijuana are setting aside funds for Healthcare in the 50% Taxation of the drug... so that (what you're complaining about) was stoutly addressed in the passage of the legalization process

In fact Marijuana Revenue will go towards other non-related health issues as well
So its paying for other problems caused by Alcohol and Cigarettes

KEY NOTE:
Marijuana generated revenue goes towards healthcare costs associated with Alcohol and Cigarettes



Thank you - The End - its been fun playing

[89Hen]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/stor ... t-for-pot/

Camouflaged amid the legal medicinal and recreational marijuana market, the ever-adaptable underground market thrives. Some in law enforcement and on the street say it may be as strong as it’s ever been, so great is the unmet local and visitor demand.

That the black market bustles in the emerging days of legalization is not unexpected. By some reckonings, it will continue as long as residents of other states look to Colorado — and now Washington state — as the nation’s giant cannabis cookie jar. And, they add, as long as its legal retail competition keeps prices high and is taxed by state and local government at rates surpassing 30 percent.

[CAA Flagship]

We are forced to share the healthcare costs of our fellow citizens, and AFTER such a law is enacted, we legalize something that has known (and unknown) health hazards. And this product is not required to have strong warnings that come with other products of equal health hazards.

Is that clear enough for you? Again, I'm not against the personal choice to use pot. I'm against the apparent contradiction that it has with the required participation in the ACA. What's next, the elimination of seat belts?

But both states that have legalized Marijuana are setting aside funds for Healthcare in the 50% Taxation of the drug... so that (what you're complaining about) was stoutly addressed in the passage of the legalization process

In fact Marijuana Revenue will go towards other non-related health issues as well
So its paying for other problems caused by Alcohol and Cigarettes

KEY NOTE:
Marijuana generated revenue goes towards healthcare costs associated with Alcohol and Cigarettes



Thank you - The End - its been fun playing

"....goes TOWARDS healthcare costs...."
Your words.

Is that to imply that it will pay for the ENTIRE cost of marijuana related healthcare? Hell, you could take 100% of the revenue and it wouldn't come close to the entire cost. Come on, man.

[travelinman67]

We are forced to share the healthcare costs of our fellow citizens, and AFTER such a law is enacted, we legalize something that has known (and unknown) health hazards. And this product is not required to have strong warnings that come with other products of equal health hazards.

Is that clear enough for you? Again, I'm not against the personal choice to use pot. I'm against the apparent contradiction that it has with the required participation in the ACA. What's next, the elimination of seat belts?

But both states that have legalized Marijuana are setting aside funds for Healthcare in the 50% Taxation of the drug... so that (what you're complaining about) was stoutly addressed in the passage of the legalization process

In fact Marijuana Revenue will go towards other non-related health issues as well
So its paying for other problems caused by Alcohol and Cigarettes

KEY NOTE:
Marijuana generated revenue goes towards healthcare costs associated with Alcohol and Cigarettes



Thank you - The End - its been fun playing

And the Feds collect 35% corporate tax rate. So that will take care of all regulatory and healthcare corporate needs.

Everything works perfectly...according to Hippie.

The End

[Chizzang]

Black Market Cigarettes thrive..!!!

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[Chizzang]

But both states that have legalized Marijuana are setting aside funds for Healthcare in the 50% Taxation of the drug... so that (what you're complaining about) was stoutly addressed in the passage of the legalization process

In fact Marijuana Revenue will go towards other non-related health issues as well
So its paying for other problems caused by Alcohol and Cigarettes

KEY NOTE:
Marijuana generated revenue goes towards healthcare costs associated with Alcohol and Cigarettes



Thank you - The End - its been fun playing

"....goes TOWARDS healthcare costs...."
Your words.

Is that to imply that it will pay for the ENTIRE cost of marijuana related healthcare? Hell, you could take 100% of the revenue and it wouldn't come close to the entire cost. Come on, man.

Is that all you got...?

[Grizalltheway]

But both states that have legalized Marijuana are setting aside funds for Healthcare in the 50% Taxation of the drug... so that (what you're complaining about) was stoutly addressed in the passage of the legalization process

In fact Marijuana Revenue will go towards other non-related health issues as well
So its paying for other problems caused by Alcohol and Cigarettes

KEY NOTE:
Marijuana generated revenue goes towards healthcare costs associated with Alcohol and Cigarettes



Thank you - The End - its been fun playing

"....goes TOWARDS healthcare costs...."
Your words.

Is that to imply that it will pay for the ENTIRE cost of marijuana related healthcare? Hell, you could take 100% of the revenue and it wouldn't come close to the entire cost. Come on, man.

What evidence do you have to back that up? We'll wait.

[Chizzang]

"....goes TOWARDS healthcare costs...."
Your words.

Is that to imply that it will pay for the ENTIRE cost of marijuana related healthcare? Hell, you could take 100% of the revenue and it wouldn't come close to the entire cost. Come on, man.

What evidence do you have to back that up? We'll wait.

I'm already laughing at his answer...

He's worried about Marijuana and there's this below

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V618uw3q-xE[/youtube]

[CAA Flagship]

"....goes TOWARDS healthcare costs...."
Your words.

Is that to imply that it will pay for the ENTIRE cost of marijuana related healthcare? Hell, you could take 100% of the revenue and it wouldn't come close to the entire cost. Come on, man.

Is that all you got...?

You are the one that can't complete a thought process. Now, either correct your statement or admit that it won't cover ALL the costs. What's it gonna be?

[CAA Flagship]

Is that all you got...?

You are the one that can't complete a thought process. Now, either correct your statement or admit that it won't cover ALL the costs. What's it gonna be?

Time is up. I win!!!!!!!!!!!

[Chizzang]

Is that all you got...?

You are the one that can't complete a thought process. Now, either correct your statement or admit that it won't cover ALL the costs. What's it gonna be?

God you're DENSE
ALL STUDIES indicate the percentage of marijuana usage will only marginally increase
The drug has always been easily available

So the same associated expenses related to health issues would occur regardless

So whats the difference - NOW we're collecting money to cover the associated medical costs

Come up with a REAL ISSUE instead of this smoke screen where you continue to have nothing

[kalm]

You are the one that can't complete a thought process. Now, either correct your statement or admit that it won't cover ALL the costs. What's it gonna be?

Time is up. I win!!!!!!!!!!!

Do taxes on red meat, twinkles, booze, and pizza cover expenses?

[Chizzang]

Time is up. I win!!!!!!!!!!!

Do taxes on red meat, twinkles, booze, and pizza cover expenses?

He's incapable of cognitive advancement
Before Marijuana legalization there were millions of pot smokers and Marijuana sales generated ZERO dollars for healthcare - in fact they only funded the Cartels

Today we have the same Marijuana smokers
Only now the transactions are taxed (25% & 25%) of which a percentage is allocated towards healthcare

Its Kindergarten Math frankly
Yesterday I had Zero Dollars / Today I have tens of Millions / Which one is more

[Grizalltheway]

You are the one that can't complete a thought process. Now, either correct your statement or admit that it won't cover ALL the costs. What's it gonna be?

Time is up. I win!!!!!!!!!!!

I think this pic is more appropriate at this point.

[houndawg]

And yet you still have no argument that I can discern..?
Can you post your actual point in one clear sentence???

We are forced to share the healthcare costs of our fellow citizens, and AFTER such a law is enacted, we legalize something that has known (and unknown) health hazards. And this product is not required to have strong warnings that come with other products of equal health hazards.

Is that clear enough for you? Again, I'm not against the personal choice to use pot. I'm against the apparent contradiction that it has with the required participation in the ACA. What's next, the elimination of seat belts?

Irrelevant. Spitting in the ocean compared to alcohol.

[CAA Flagship]

Do taxes on red meat, twinkles, booze, and pizza cover expenses?

kalmy, my point is that they were all there BEFORE the ACA. Pot came AFTER the ACA.

And it's twinkies dammit, not twinkles.

[CAA Flagship]

We are forced to share the healthcare costs of our fellow citizens, and AFTER such a law is enacted, we legalize something that has known (and unknown) health hazards. And this product is not required to have strong warnings that come with other products of equal health hazards.

Is that clear enough for you? Again, I'm not against the personal choice to use pot. I'm against the apparent contradiction that it has with the required participation in the ACA. What's next, the elimination of seat belts?

Irrelevant. Spitting in the ocean compared to alcohol.

That may be true, but I don't believe that there has been an equal amount of research done on pot yet. And why would there be since it was recently legalized?

[kalm]

Do taxes on red meat, twinkles, booze, and pizza cover expenses?

kalmy, my point is that they were all there BEFORE the ACA. Pot came AFTER the ACA.

And it's twinkies dammit, not twinkles.

Pot was there before the ACA too. And I'll guarantee you abuse of the aforementioned increased your premiums more than pot did.

Regardless, government has no business determining what you put in your body. Especially relatively benign plants that you can grow in your backyard.

[CAA Flagship]

Do taxes on red meat, twinkles, booze, and pizza cover expenses?

He's incapable of cognitive advancement
Before Marijuana legalization there were millions of pot smokers and Marijuana sales generated ZERO dollars for healthcare - in fact they only funded the Cartels

Today we have the same Marijuana smokers
Only now the transactions are taxed (25% & 25%) of which a percentage is allocated towards healthcare

Its Kindergarten Math frankly
Yesterday I had Zero Dollars / Today I have tens of Millions / Which one is more

First, your faith in the government's management of funds has never been stronger. Why is that? POT(b)?
Ask the residents of Atlantic City about the promises of casino tax revenues. And ask them how different they are from the results. Now I know that is probably unfair because the AC issue probably has a greater amount of corruption associated with it. But the feds can produce the same results by a simple vote for reallocation.

Second, your faith in the taxes being able to cover the medical expenses that WE are now paying for is amazing. I hope you are right, but I think you will find that much of that money will be spent on research to determine the effects on health, rather than treatment. The ACA has already made us responsible for treatment. Research money, to the level where it approaches alcohol, is yet to be found.

[CAA Flagship]

kalmy, my point is that they were all there BEFORE the ACA. Pot came AFTER the ACA.

And it's twinkies dammit, not twinkles.

Pot was there before the ACA too. And I'll guarantee you abuse of the aforementioned increased your premiums more than pot did.

Regardless, government has no business determining what you put in your body. Especially relatively benign plants that you can grow in your backyard.

Pot was there, but it wasn't legal. And healthcare insurance was the responsibility of the individual and not the taxpayers as a whole.

Gee. There are more consumers of junk food than pot, so I would guess that you are right about the effect on premiums.