Fauxahontas DNA Results

[CID1990]

With all due respect - you’re a **** wet blanket.


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I am correct. The bottom line is that the results are consistent with Warren's claims about her ancestry in terms of her great, great, great grandmother being Native American. That 1 in 1024 thing is a crock. There is a large band of uncertainty because of the nature of genetics and because US Native Americans won't give up their DNA. The important point is the statement about generations and it's consistent with Warren's claim.

The claim by Conservatives that the results indicate that Warren is "less Native American" than average is another example of the problem with misinformation coming from the conservative side right now.

And, again, I say that as a conservative. You have to be willing to call your "side" out when it is dishonest and off the rails. And right now the conservative movement is dishonest and off the rails.

Hey JSO

Here's a fact for you

Warren has about the median amount of native DNA as the average American white person


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[SeattleGriz]

You're telling me that if a position at Harvard was open and it had a real Native American vs Warren, it would be justified to pick Warren due to her maybe having a Latin American progenitor somewhere in her familial line because she's just as much a Native American?

Hmm.

Probably not but nothing like that happened.

Harvard didn't trot Warren out as a woman of color at a time when they were being criticized as too white?

I would say that shows she filled a Native American slot.

Cleets even said Harvard was evil.

[JohnStOnge]

I am correct. The bottom line is that the results are consistent with Warren's claims about her ancestry in terms of her great, great, great grandmother being Native American. That 1 in 1024 thing is a crock. There is a large band of uncertainty because of the nature of genetics and because US Native Americans won't give up their DNA. The important point is the statement about generations and it's consistent with Warren's claim.

The claim by Conservatives that the results indicate that Warren is "less Native American" than average is another example of the problem with misinformation coming from the conservative side right now.

And, again, I say that as a conservative. You have to be willing to call your "side" out when it is dishonest and off the rails. And right now the conservative movement is dishonest and off the rails.

Hey JSO

Here's a fact for you

Warren has about the median amount of native DNA as the average American white person


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Possible, but not likely. I already posted on that. The midpoint of her range is well above the median. I can't tell for sure because I don't know all of the characteristics of the probability distribution. But I'd say there is about 87% confidence that she is above the median. Not enough to make a "for sure" call. But if you had to bet you'd bet she's above the median.

[SeattleGriz]

Hey JSO

Here's a fact for you

Warren has about the median amount of native DNA as the average American white person


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Possible, but not likely. I already posted on that. The midpoint of her range is well above the median. I can't tell for sure because I don't know all of the characteristics of the probability distribution. But I'd say there is about 87% confidence that she is above the median. Not enough to make a "for sure" call. But if you had to bet you'd bet she's above the median.

So where does that put her on the 6-10 range? A 7?

[JohnStOnge]

Probably not but nothing like that happened.

Harvard didn't trot Warren out as a woman of color at a time when they were being criticized as too white?

I would say that shows she filled a Native American slot.

Cleets even said Harvard was evil.

Harvard did refer to her as "Native American" to defend its "diversity." But there is no indication that she was ever hired for any position due to a claim of minority ancestry.

[SeattleGriz]

Harvard didn't trot Warren out as a woman of color at a time when they were being criticized as too white?

I would say that shows she filled a Native American slot.

Cleets even said Harvard was evil.

Harvard did refer to her as "Native American" to defend its "diversity." But there is no indication that she was ever hired for any position due to a claim of minority ancestry.

The fact she got her law degree at U of Penn doesn't qualify as a red flag? Next you're going to say a U of Montana law grad is going to get hired at Harvard.

[Ivytalk]

Harvard did refer to her as "Native American" to defend its "diversity." But there is no indication that she was ever hired for any position due to a claim of minority ancestry.

The fact she got her law degree at U of Penn doesn't qualify as a red flag? Next you're going to say a U of Montana law grad is going to get hired at Harvard.

She got her law degree at Rutgers. But for the Injun street cred, Harvard would never have hired her.

[SeattleGriz]

The fact she got her law degree at U of Penn doesn't qualify as a red flag? Next you're going to say a U of Montana law grad is going to get hired at Harvard.

She got her law degree at Rutgers. But for the Injun street cred, Harvard would never have hired her.

Thank you for correction. Confused her working there.

[CID1990]

The fact she got her law degree at U of Penn doesn't qualify as a red flag? Next you're going to say a U of Montana law grad is going to get hired at Harvard.

She got her law degree at Rutgers. But for the Injun street cred, Harvard would never have hired her.

Hey ho! IT letting loose with a little smug prickage!


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[CID1990]

Personally I'm glad it's the SJW Warren who is adamantly emphasizing that DNA equals identity


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[JohnStOnge]

Possible, but not likely. I already posted on that. The midpoint of her range is well above the median. I can't tell for sure because I don't know all of the characteristics of the probability distribution. But I'd say there is about 87% confidence that she is above the median. Not enough to make a "for sure" call. But if you had to bet you'd bet she's above the median.

So where does that put her on the 6-10 range? A 7?

Ok. I will repeat. Here is an article from a "conservative" source:
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/20 ... n-average/

Here is the key quote:

A 2014 study by Harvard University and 23andMe found that European Americans tested overall for 0.18 percent Native American ancestry, while Ms. Warren’s results show she has anywhere from 0.09 percent to 1.5 percent.

Just visualize a line segment that starts at 0.09 and ends at 1.5. Now visualize where 0.18 falls along that line segment. It's going to be much closer to the 0.09 end. It's going to be just 0.09 above the lower end while being 1.32 below the upper end. I actually made a calculation error early when I said it'd be at the 13th percentile. It'd actually be at the 6th percentile.

If you're objective and reasonable at all you would interpret those results as meaning it's very likely that Elizabeth Warren has WAY more Native American genetic material in her than people classified as "White" do on average.

The reason there is so much uncertainty is that it's not a straight progression. Meiosis means things get randomly distributed. For example: My DNA test showed me to be 52 percent French. So you might think my daughter would be 52/2 = 26 percent French. But no. She's 6% French. It's because the randomly selected genes in my sperm cell that led to her happened not to have a lot of French ones. That's the way it works.

And that's why there is uncertainty with respect to Warren and how many generations ago her native American ancestor was. But, again, the results are consistent with her claim that her great, great, great grandmother was it.

[Ivytalk]

She got her law degree at Rutgers. But for the Injun street cred, Harvard would never have hired her.

Hey ho! IT letting loose with a little smug prickage!


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Jizzang got nothin’ on me.

[SeattleGriz]

So where does that put her on the 6-10 range? A 7?

Ok. I will repeat. Here is an article from a "conservative" source:
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/20 ... n-average/

Here is the key quote:

A 2014 study by Harvard University and 23andMe found that European Americans tested overall for 0.18 percent Native American ancestry, while Ms. Warren’s results show she has anywhere from 0.09 percent to 1.5 percent.

Just visualize a line segment that starts at 0.09 and ends at 1.5. Now visualize where 0.18 falls along that line segment. It's going to be much closer to the 0.09 end. It's going to be just 0.09 above the lower end while being 1.32 below the upper end. I actually made a calculation error early when I said it'd be at the 13th percentile. It'd actually be at the 6th percentile.

If you're objective and reasonable at all you would interpret those results as meaning it's very likely that Elizabeth Warren has WAY more Native American genetic material in her than people classified as "White" do on average.

The reason there is so much uncertainty is that it's not a straight progression. Meiosis means things get randomly distributed. For example: My DNA test showed me to be 52 percent French. So you might think my daughter would be 52/2 = 26 percent French. But no. She's 6% French. It's because the randomly selected genes in my sperm cell that led to her happened not to have a lot of French ones. That's the way it works.

And that's why there is uncertainty with respect to Warren and how many generations ago her native American ancestor was. But, again, the results are consistent with her claim that her great, great, great grandmother was it.

Okay, a 9 and it's Latin genes, not Native American.

[Ivytalk]

So where does that put her on the 6-10 range? A 7?

Ok. I will repeat. Here is an article from a "conservative" source:
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/20 ... n-average/

Here is the key quote:

A 2014 study by Harvard University and 23andMe found that European Americans tested overall for 0.18 percent Native American ancestry, while Ms. Warren’s results show she has anywhere from 0.09 percent to 1.5 percent.

Just visualize a line segment that starts at 0.09 and ends at 1.5. Now visualize where 0.18 falls along that line segment. It's going to be much closer to the 0.09 end. It's going to be just 0.09 above the lower end while being 1.32 below the upper end. I actually made a calculation error early when I said it'd be at the 13th percentile. It'd actually be at the 6th percentile.

If you're objective and reasonable at all you would interpret those results as meaning it's very likely that Elizabeth Warren has WAY more Native American genetic material in her than people classified as "White" do on average.

The reason there is so much uncertainty is that it's not a straight progression. Meiosis means things get randomly distributed. For example: My DNA test showed me to be 52 percent French. So you might think my daughter would be 52/2 = 26 percent French. But no. She's 6% French. It's because the randomly selected genes in my sperm cell that led to her happened not to have a lot of French ones. That's the way it works.

And that's why there is uncertainty with respect to Warren and how many generations ago her native American ancestor was. But, again, the results are consistent with her claim that her great, great, great grandmother was it.

John, you are a whore. There, I said it.

[JoltinJoe]

Hey ho! IT letting loose with a little smug prickage!


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Jizzang got nothin’ on me.

I knew you had it in you!

Harvard ain't going to hire from a school whose most famous alum is Quincy Magoo.

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[CitadelGrad]

Has 1/1024 become the new 6.93?

[89Hen]

Personally I'm glad it's the SJW Warren who is adamantly emphasizing that DNA equals identity

Yeah, isn't that convenient.

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[Chizzang]

This thread has legs !
Just the Memes alone are worth the trip

Side Note:
I forgot about that batsh!t crazy chick who claimed to be black
That is some funny funny right there