CitadelGrad's PSU Bitch thread

[GannonFan]

Sad how many are brain washed

While I think CitadelGrad is in denial regarding Penn St, I think there is some validity to the idea that Paterno is getting a bad deal. While Joe Pa is not innocent here, I'm not sure how much of a monster he is. Since he's dead he won't stand trial in a court of law, but he is losing in the court of public opinion and I don't think that's fair.

What Paterno is guilty of is not washing his hands of this guy and making sure he just went away entirely. And he could've done that. I agree that from a court of law standpoint, Paterno, if he was alive today, would win in court since there is no smoking gun from him saying that he was involved in squashing anything. Curley's change of opinion after talking with Paterno doesn't mean that Paterno was part of a conspiracy. However, Paterno knew of the allegations against Sandusky, certainly at least by the 2002 (not sure of the date, but the McQuery incident) that at the minimum he should've cut Sandusky out from anything related to Penn State, and if he couldn't do that, then at least from anything related to Penn State football since there's no argument that he had complete power in that realm. Paterno is at least guilty of that and at a minimum he deserves some scorn for that error in judgement. Letting this guy hang around your practices and games and facilities, while in the company of kids while in knowledge of what had been alleged against him is a pretty serious error of judgement and worthy of derision, even if he would never be tried in court for anything else.

[bluehenbillk]

First off, Joe Paterno is dead.

Joe Paterno will not be judged by us but by his Creator & he'll pay for his misdeeds for all eternity.

Getting back on track, Paterno is dead & therefore will never be tried in a court of law so the point of this thread is moot. Joe Paterno has been & is currently guilty as hell in the court of public opinion for looking the other way.

The bottom line here, Joe Paterno's actions or lack of such actions aside are that kids, not 18-22 year old football players, but 9, 10, 11, 12 year old boys were molested by the Tickle Monster repeatedly over a decade. They're the victims. Not Spanier, not Curley, not Schultz & certainly not Joe f'in Paterno.

If you want to feel bad for somebody remember those kids.

[andy7171]

[93henfan]

There was a ton of press. Do ESPN outside the lines specials not count as press?

Joe was asked about the arrests constantly by PSU beat guys.

Seriously, what planet were people on that didn't know that Penn State had tons of off-field discipline problems for the past decade? You guys need to read the sports pages a little more, amazing what you can find in there.

This is the most convenient time, oh, in say EVER for Penn State haters to come out of the woodwork and do their dance. Let's not rain on their party. Just play along.

[andy7171]

Seriously, what planet were people on that didn't know that Penn State had tons of off-field discipline problems for the past decade? You guys need to read the sports pages a little more, amazing what you can find in there.

This is the most convenient time, oh, in say EVER for Penn State haters to come out of the woodwork and do their dance. Let's not rain on their party. Just play along.

That's right! Don't stand up for what is right. Just let the dancing continue, even though it's wrong! The Paterno way!

[SDHornet]

This thread needs a little laughter.

[CitadelGrad]

While I think CitadelGrad is in denial regarding Penn St, I think there is some validity to the idea that Paterno is getting a bad deal. While Joe Pa is not innocent here, I'm not sure how much of a monster he is. Since he's dead he won't stand trial in a court of law, but he is losing in the court of public opinion and I don't think that's fair.

What Paterno is guilty of is not washing his hands of this guy and making sure he just went away entirely. And he could've done that. I agree that from a court of law standpoint, Paterno, if he was alive today, would win in court since there is no smoking gun from him saying that he was involved in squashing anything. Curley's change of opinion after talking with Paterno doesn't mean that Paterno was part of a conspiracy. However, Paterno knew of the allegations against Sandusky, certainly at least by the 2002 (not sure of the date, but the McQuery incident) that at the minimum he should've cut Sandusky out from anything related to Penn State, and if he couldn't do that, then at least from anything related to Penn State football since there's no argument that he had complete power in that realm. Paterno is at least guilty of that and at a minimum he deserves some scorn for that error in judgement. Letting this guy hang around your practices and games and facilities, while in the company of kids while in knowledge of what had been alleged against him is a pretty serious error of judgement and worthy of derision, even if he would never be tried in court for anything else.

It's astonishing that after all that has gone down, you still have such a weak grasp of the facts.

[CitadelGrad]

.... and now the circle jerk is complete.

http://chronicle.com/article/Freeh-Grou ... es/133213/

A member of the team that produced a 267-page report condemning the response of Pennsylvania State University's leaders to a serial child molester believes that the NCAA's use of that document was insufficient to justify the punishment it handed the university this week.

"That document was not meant to be used as the sole piece, or the large piece, of the NCAA's decision-making," a source familiar with the investigation told The Chronicle on Thursday. "It was meant to be a mechanism to help Penn State move forward. To be used otherwise creates an obstacle to the institution changing."

[Skjellyfetti]

Odds this guy is a Ped State alum?

[GannonFan]

What Paterno is guilty of is not washing his hands of this guy and making sure he just went away entirely. And he could've done that. I agree that from a court of law standpoint, Paterno, if he was alive today, would win in court since there is no smoking gun from him saying that he was involved in squashing anything. Curley's change of opinion after talking with Paterno doesn't mean that Paterno was part of a conspiracy. However, Paterno knew of the allegations against Sandusky, certainly at least by the 2002 (not sure of the date, but the McQuery incident) that at the minimum he should've cut Sandusky out from anything related to Penn State, and if he couldn't do that, then at least from anything related to Penn State football since there's no argument that he had complete power in that realm. Paterno is at least guilty of that and at a minimum he deserves some scorn for that error in judgement. Letting this guy hang around your practices and games and facilities, while in the company of kids while in knowledge of what had been alleged against him is a pretty serious error of judgement and worthy of derision, even if he would never be tried in court for anything else.

It's astonishing that after all that has gone down, you still have such a weak grasp of the facts.

What did I say that was incorrect?

[CitadelGrad]

It's astonishing that after all that has gone down, you still have such a weak grasp of the facts.

What did I say that was incorrect?

Your assumption that Paterno could have gotten rid of Sandusky. He certainly could and did get Sandusky off the coaching staff, but beyond that he could have done nothing. It was the current president, Erickson who granted Sandusky emeritus status in 1999. After the shower incident, when Penn State tried to ban Sandusky from the campus, Penn State was advised by a member of the PA Supreme Court that the school could not do that without being in breach of contract. With not proof of improper behavior, she said that Penn State would open itself up to a lawsuit from Sandusky. It was the emeritus contract that gave Sandusky access to football facilities and an office in the football building. Paterno didn't want Sandusky around, but his wishes were ignored by Erickson.

After the shower incident, Sandusky was barred from bringing children onto campus, so your statement that Paterno let Sandusky hang out with kids on campus is false.

There is no reason to believe that Paterno knew Sandusky was molesting children. Even McQueary has said that he did not tell Paterno of everything that he saw. Curley and Schulz claim that McQueary did not tell them that he saw sexual contact in the showers. That matter is still to be adjudicated.

[CitadelGrad]

Odds this guy is a Ped State alum?

Do you have any evidence that he is? No.

[ASUG8]

6 threads on this? Let it go.

[Grizalltheway]

6 threads on this? Let it go.

Obession is unhealthy.

[rkwittem]

What Paterno is guilty of is not washing his hands of this guy and making sure he just went away entirely. And he could've done that. I agree that from a court of law standpoint, Paterno, if he was alive today, would win in court since there is no smoking gun from him saying that he was involved in squashing anything. Curley's change of opinion after talking with Paterno doesn't mean that Paterno was part of a conspiracy. However, Paterno knew of the allegations against Sandusky, certainly at least by the 2002 (not sure of the date, but the McQuery incident) that at the minimum he should've cut Sandusky out from anything related to Penn State, and if he couldn't do that, then at least from anything related to Penn State football since there's no argument that he had complete power in that realm. Paterno is at least guilty of that and at a minimum he deserves some scorn for that error in judgement. Letting this guy hang around your practices and games and facilities, while in the company of kids while in knowledge of what had been alleged against him is a pretty serious error of judgement and worthy of derision, even if he would never be tried in court for anything else.

It's astonishing that after all that has gone down, you still have such a weak grasp of the facts.

Pot, kettle. Kettle, pot.

Dude, just shut up and accept it. JoePa isn't what he once was. Penn State isn't what it once was. Stick your head in the sand all you want (I find it hilarious).

[rkwittem]

Odds this guy is a Ped State alum?

Do you have any evidence that he is? No.

Do you have evidence he isn't? NO!

[clenz]

Theyll become one here shortly

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[dbackjon]

So? What was false about it?

Penn State accepted the findings AND the punishment.

I can guarantee you that if Penn State had fought it, they would have had a full blown NCAA investigation, which would have found a ton more stuff, and Penn State's punishment would have been far, far worse, and extended beyond the football program.


Penn state knew this, so traded off a lighter punishment with out fighting to keep the NCAA away.



Get over it. Penn State covered up Child Rape, and was deservedly punished.

Everytime you whine, you look more and more foolish, and more and more like a Pedo supporter.

[CitadelGrad]

6 threads on this? Let it go.

I didn't create most of the threads on this.

[CitadelGrad]

So? What was false about it?

Penn State accepted the findings AND the punishment.

I can guarantee you that if Penn State had fought it, they would have had a full blown NCAA investigation, which would have found a ton more stuff, and Penn State's punishment would have been far, far worse, and extended beyond the football program.


Penn state knew this, so traded off a lighter punishment with out fighting to keep the NCAA away.



Get over it. Penn State covered up Child Rape, and was deservedly punished.

Everytime you whine, you look more and more foolish, and more and more like a Pedo supporter.

How can you guarantee what an NCAA investigation would have uncovered? The NCAA doesn't have the authority to investigate criminal and civil matters anyway.

The Board of Trustees accepted the Freeh Report findings because they were the ones who commissioned it. It was designed to cove the asses of Governor Corbett, several trustees, including the governor and university president and members of the Second Mile Foundation, some of whom are members of the Board of Trustees and contributed more than $600k to Governor Corbett's campaign. If you want a conspiracy, there it is. I'm pretty sure being a fag doesn't preclude you from being able to connect the dots.

I know you haven't read the Freeh Report, so you have no business commenting on it. There is no evidence that anyone at Penn State knew of Sandusky's child molestation. That will be adjudicated at the trials of Curley and Schultz.

By the way, I'm sorry you daddy stuck his willie up your butt when you were a little boy.

[clenz]

all 6 I merged were started by you

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[CitadelGrad]

all 6 I merged were started by you

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There were others that I didn't start. The pitchfork crowd was posting about this long before I was.

[dbackjon]

So? What was false about it?

Penn State accepted the findings AND the punishment.

I can guarantee you that if Penn State had fought it, they would have had a full blown NCAA investigation, which would have found a ton more stuff, and Penn State's punishment would have been far, far worse, and extended beyond the football program.


Penn state knew this, so traded off a lighter punishment with out fighting to keep the NCAA away.



Get over it. Penn State covered up Child Rape, and was deservedly punished.

Everytime you whine, you look more and more foolish, and more and more like a Pedo supporter.

How can you guarantee what an NCAA investigation would have uncovered? The NCAA doesn't have the authority to investigate criminal and civil matters anyway.

The Board of Trustees accepted the Freeh Report findings because they were the ones who commissioned it. It was designed to cove the asses of Governor Corbett, several trustees, including the governor and university president and members of the Second Mile Foundation, some of whom are members of the Board of Trustees and contributed more than $600k to Governor Corbett's campaign. If you want a conspiracy, there it is. I'm pretty sure being a fag doesn't preclude you from being able to connect the dots.

I know you haven't read the Freeh Report, so you have no business commenting on it. There is no evidence that anyone at Penn State knew of Sandusky's child molestation. That will be adjudicated at the trials of Curley and Schultz.

By the way, I'm sorry you daddy stuck his willie up your butt when you were a little boy.

Loser. You are not worthy of any more of my time.

[clenz]

all 6 I merged were started by you

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There were others that I didn't start. The pitchfork crowd was posting about this long before I was.

There are less threads about all of the other PSU stuff started by others than you have started about the same subject...and there is "no overlap" of topics with those other 5


1. PSU removing statue
2. Sandusky trial
3. Comparing how PSU was punished to other situations to see if things are *fair*
4. 1 about the death penalty - covers all of the death penalties.
5. An article about a molestation victims take on how JoePa apparently handled the situation.

[CitadelGrad]

There were others that I didn't start. The pitchfork crowd was posting about this long before I was.

There are less threads about all of the other PSU stuff started by others than you have started about the same subject...and there is "no overlap" of topics with those other 5


1. PSU removing statue
2. Sandusky trial
3. Comparing how PSU was punished to other situations to see if things are *fair*
4. 1 about the death penalty - covers all of the death penalties.
5. An article about a molestation victims take on how JoePa apparently handled the situation.

The difference is that I post facts. Nearly everyone else is parroting ESPN headlines.