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Yeah...and the gulags are right around the corner... :hide:

Listen...I see enough of this on social media and I need otherwise reasoned peeps like you and UNI88 to keep your shit together here or I’m gonna lose all faith in our system.

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JohnStOnge wrote:BTW, if you've known me over the years you know that I favor testing people to make sure they have some clue before allowing them to vote. Who that would hurt and who that would help depends on how tough the test is. If you fix it so that it just excludes maybe the bottom 10 or 20 percent it would probably favor Republicans. If you fix it so that it only INCLUDES the TOP 10 or 20 percent it would probably favor Democrats.

At this point I'm thinking the society would be better off if only to top 15% or so in terms of intelligence and knowledge could vote. That way there would be no WAY we'd end up with something like Trump being President.
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JohnStOnge wrote:BTW, if you've known me over the years you know that I favor testing people to make sure they have some clue before allowing them to vote. Who that would hurt and who that would help depends on how tough the test is. If you fix it so that it just excludes maybe the bottom 10 or 20 percent it would probably favor Republicans. If you fix it so that it only INCLUDES the TOP 10 or 20 percent it would probably favor Democrats.

At this point I'm thinking the society would be better off if only to top 15% or so in terms of intelligence and knowledge could vote. That way there would be no WAY we'd end up with something like Trump being President.
So who gets to write the test? Who determines what is the information you need to know to be eligible to vote?
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He’s a playbook socialist in everything else, why wouldn’t he follow the most important chapter in the playbook?

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Yeah...and the gulags are right around the corner... :hide:

Listen...I see enough of this on social media and I need otherwise reasoned peeps like you and UNI88 to keep your **** together here or I’m gonna lose all faith in our system.

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I’m being tongue in cheek on Bernie

but he did essentially call auto manufacturers criminals in the debate. I believe in taking people’s word for things when they say them .... especially if the rules we apply to Trump also apply to Bernie

It would be easy to lump Bernie in with fair weather socialists like Warren if it wasn’t for the fact that he has a vast body of work compiled over decades of public life... he used to praise the Soviet system in the good ol days where even democrats thought he was a kook

We’ll never get to the gulags anytime soon though - because Bernie will never get the necessary political power....but that is definitely how governments of command economies stay in power

And I have no doubt that the inheritors of Bernie’s shining path would utilize every tool in the good ol toolbox if given the correct circumstances


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CID1990 wrote:
kalm wrote:
Yeah...and the gulags are right around the corner... :hide:

Listen...I see enough of this on social media and I need otherwise reasoned peeps like you and UNI88 to keep your **** together here or I’m gonna lose all faith in our system.

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I’m being tongue in cheek on Bernie

but he did essentially call auto manufacturers criminals in the debate. I believe in taking people’s word for things when they say them .... especially if the rules we apply to Trump also apply to Bernie

It would be easy to lump Bernie in with fair weather socialists like Warren if it wasn’t for the fact that he has a vast body of work compiled over decades of public life... he used to praise the Soviet system in the good ol days where even democrats thought he was a kook

We’ll never get to the gulags anytime soon though - because Bernie will never get the necessary political power....but that is definitely how governments of command economies stay in power

And I have no doubt that the inheritors of Bernie’s shining path would utilize every tool in the good ol toolbox if given the correct circumstances


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Agree, he would be a real Soviet style leader if he ever got the chance. He can’t even control his campaign workers, so he is past his peak,thank God.


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I’m being tongue in cheek on Bernie

but he did essentially call auto manufacturers criminals in the debate. I believe in taking people’s word for things when they say them .... especially if the rules we apply to Trump also apply to Bernie

It would be easy to lump Bernie in with fair weather socialists like Warren if it wasn’t for the fact that he has a vast body of work compiled over decades of public life... he used to praise the Soviet system in the good ol days where even democrats thought he was a kook

We’ll never get to the gulags anytime soon though - because Bernie will never get the necessary political power....but that is definitely how governments of command economies stay in power

And I have no doubt that the inheritors of Bernie’s shining path would utilize every tool in the good ol toolbox if given the correct circumstances


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Agree, he would be a real Soviet style leader if he ever got the chance. He can’t even control his campaign workers, so he is past his peak,thank God.


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Wouldn't a real Soviet style leader be able to control his campaign workers?
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Agree, he would be a real Soviet style leader if he ever got the chance. He can’t even control his campaign workers, so he is past his peak,thank God.


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Wouldn't a real Soviet style leader be able to control his campaign workers?
Stalinistic ambitions doesn't mean Stalinistic abilities. He's a wanna be.

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Wouldn't a real Soviet style leader be able to control his campaign workers?
Stalinistic ambitions doesn't mean Stalinistic abilities. He's a wanna be.

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It has come to this....

When Barack Obama is the moderate voice of reason - you know the Overton Window has moved

https://www-m.cnn.com/2019/08/01/politi ... reports%2F


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CID1990 wrote:It has come to this....

When Barack Obama is the moderate voice of reason - you know the Overton Window has moved

https://www-m.cnn.com/2019/08/01/politi ... reports%2F


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JohnStOnge wrote:BTW, if you've known me over the years you know that I favor testing people to make sure they have some clue before allowing them to vote. Who that would hurt and who that would help depends on how tough the test is. If you fix it so that it just excludes maybe the bottom 10 or 20 percent it would probably favor Republicans. If you fix it so that it only INCLUDES the TOP 10 or 20 percent it would probably favor Democrats.

At this point I'm thinking the society would be better off if only to top 15% or so in terms of intelligence and knowledge could vote. That way there would be no WAY we'd end up with something like OBAMA being President.

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Cute but false. In 2008 people with graduate degrees voted for Obama by 58% to 40% over McCain. In 2012 people with graduate degrees voted for Obama by 55% to 42% over Romney. In 2016 people with graduate degrees voted for CLINTON by 58% to 37% over Trump.

Educational attainment level is not a perfect measure. But it's the best proxy for IQ. If only the "cognitive elite"....the top 15% or so in IQ...could vote, Obama would do fine. Trump would not.

If only the people "above the average range" in intelligence could vote, the Republicans would have no shot. That doesn't mean NOBODY in that group would vote Republican. But if the "cognitive elite" were the only ones to vote the Republicans would be a non factor.
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So what that proves is graduate degrees don’t mean shit from an intelligence standpoint.
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They also had the most drop outs voting Dem, so what is your point other than demonstrating your TDS..


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JohnStOnge wrote:
css75 wrote:

FIFY.
Cute but false. In 2008 people with graduate degrees voted for Obama by 58% to 40% over McCain. In 2012 people with graduate degrees voted for Obama by 55% to 42% over Romney. In 2016 people with graduate degrees voted for CLINTON by 58% to 37% over Trump.

Educational attainment level is not a perfect measure. But it's the best proxy for IQ. If only the "cognitive elite"....the top 15% or so in IQ...could vote, Obama would do fine. Trump would not.

If only the people "above the average range" in intelligence could vote, the Republicans would have no shot. That doesn't mean NOBODY in that group would vote Republican. But if the "cognitive elite" were the only ones to vote the Republicans would be a non factor.
In 2008 high school drop outs voted for Obama by 63% to 35% over McCain. In 2012 high school drop outs voted for Obama 64%-35% over Romney.

Educational attainment level is not a perfect measure. But it's the best proxy for IQ. If only the “cogntive stupid” the bottom 15% or so in IQ...could vote, Obama would do fine.

If only the people "below the average range" in intelligence could vote, the Republicans would have no shot. That doesn't mean NOBODY in that group would vote Republican. But if the "cognitive stupid" were the only ones to vote, the Republicans would be a non factor.
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Jim Biden, Joe’s younger brother, was just sued for securities fraud.

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JohnStOnge wrote:
Cute but false. In 2008 people with graduate degrees voted for Obama by 58% to 40% over McCain. In 2012 people with graduate degrees voted for Obama by 55% to 42% over Romney. In 2016 people with graduate degrees voted for CLINTON by 58% to 37% over Trump.

Educational attainment level is not a perfect measure. But it's the best proxy for IQ. If only the "cognitive elite"....the top 15% or so in IQ...could vote, Obama would do fine. Trump would not.

If only the people "above the average range" in intelligence could vote, the Republicans would have no shot. That doesn't mean NOBODY in that group would vote Republican. But if the "cognitive elite" were the only ones to vote the Republicans would be a non factor.
In 2008 high school drop outs voted for Obama by 63% to 35% over McCain. In 2012 high school drop outs voted for Obama 64%-35% over Romney.

Educational attainment level is not a perfect measure. But it's the best proxy for IQ. If only the “cogntive stupid” the bottom 15% or so in IQ...could vote, Obama would do fine.

If only the people "below the average range" in intelligence could vote, the Republicans would have no shot. That doesn't mean NOBODY in that group would vote Republican. But if the "cognitive stupid" were the only ones to vote, the Republicans would be a non factor.
I think I pretty much said that. And I've said it for years. If you only took the bottom 15% in the IQ distribution the Democrats would dominate. If you took only the top 15% in IQ distribution the Democrats would dominate.

I'll go with only taking the top 15% of the IQ distribution. How could you argue with allowing only the top 15% in the intelligence distribution to vote? And, BTW, it'd be the same picture for the Republicans if you said top 10%, top 5%, or top 1%. They'd be screwed.

If only really smart people voted, the Republicans would be eliminated as a factor. That' not to say that no really smart people would vote for Republicans. But a lot more of them would vote for Democrats. It is what it is.
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JohnStOnge wrote:
css75 wrote:

FIFY.
Cute but false. In 2008 people with graduate degrees voted for Obama by 58% to 40% over McCain. In 2012 people with graduate degrees voted for Obama by 55% to 42% over Romney. In 2016 people with graduate degrees voted for CLINTON by 58% to 37% over Trump.

Educational attainment level is not a perfect measure. But it's the best proxy for IQ. If only the "cognitive elite"....the top 15% or so in IQ...could vote, Obama would do fine. Trump would not.

If only the people "above the average range" in intelligence could vote, the Republicans would have no shot. That doesn't mean NOBODY in that group would vote Republican. But if the "cognitive elite" were the only ones to vote the Republicans would be a non factor.
And what do the numbers look like when comparing college degree versus no degree?
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BDKJMU wrote: In 2008 high school drop outs voted for Obama by 63% to 35% over McCain. In 2012 high school drop outs voted for Obama 64%-35% over Romney.

Educational attainment level is not a perfect measure. But it's the best proxy for IQ. If only the “cogntive stupid” the bottom 15% or so in IQ...could vote, Obama would do fine.

If only the people "below the average range" in intelligence could vote, the Republicans would have no shot. That doesn't mean NOBODY in that group would vote Republican. But if the "cognitive stupid" were the only ones to vote, the Republicans would be a non factor.
I think I pretty much said that. And I've said it for years. If you only took the bottom 15% in the IQ distribution the Democrats would dominate. If you took only the top 15% in IQ distribution the Democrats would dominate.

I'll go with only taking the top 15% of the IQ distribution. How could you argue with allowing only the top 15% in the intelligence distribution to vote? And, BTW, it'd be the same picture for the Republicans if you said top 10%, top 5%, or top 1%. They'd be screwed.

If only really smart people voted, the Republicans would be eliminated as a factor. That' not to say that no really smart people would vote for Republicans. But a lot more of them would vote for Democrats. It is what it is.
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CID1990 wrote:
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Oh good lord.... :lol:
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Ivytalk wrote:Jim Biden, Joe’s younger brother, was just sued for securities fraud.

Must be taking lessons from Hunter.
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Ivytalk wrote:Pedo O’Rourke is the biggest Donk political Ho out there, and it isn’t even close. And he’s stupid, too.
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