Draft Stock: Moving Up and Moving Down

[TheHerd]

Is EWU's LB Sherrit playing in any of these games? That guy is a player! How fast is his forty time? Any chance he would get looks as a safety in the NFL? He is only 5'11" I believe, so that kind of limits him at LB in the eyes of most NFL scouts I would imagine, although there have been very good short LB's in the NFL......Sam Mills, and the kid out of Texas Tech that started for the Fins for many years, just to name a couple.

[SmallCollegeFBFan]

Is EWU's LB Sherrit playing in any of these games? That guy is a player! How fast is his forty time? Any chance he would get looks as a safety in the NFL? He is only 5'11" I believe, so that kind of limits him at LB in the eyes of most NFL scouts I would imagine, although there have been very good short LB's in the NFL......Sam Mills, and the kid out of Texas Tech that started for the Fins for many years, just to name a couple.

Not that I know of. He doesn't have an agent last I heard either. He runs 4.7s from what I heard and is actually 5'9 3/8 according to what the NFL scouts gave me.

The Texas Tech player you are thinking of is Zach Thomas.

[dal4018]

That isn't good news for me personally to hear about Grambling DE/OLB Christian Anthony when I first saw him as a frosh I felt he could have been the next MICHAEL STRAHAN.

[PenthouseClosedEnd]

Good to see both Justin Rogers and Martin Parker representing well for the Spiders.

[ASUMountaineer]

Based on what my sources at the Shrine and my own film evaluations here are the players whose stock is changing over the last couple weeks:

RISING

OT/OG Will Rackley, Lehigh- He is showing what most figured that he is not a tackle at the next level but could be a very good guard. He bends well and is strong. Should be a solid 4th-5th round pick.

CB Justin Rogers, Richmond- He is really impressing people at the Shrine and looks more like a 5th round pick than a 7th round or PFA like many have him.

CB Korey Lindsey, Southern Illinois- Lindsey has looked pretty good out at the Shrine and should solidify himself in the 4th-5th round. A lot of folks abandoned his ranking when he didn't get an early combine invite but I won't. He is a legit mid round guy who will surprise some folks.

TE Julius Thomas, Portland State- He is raw but has so much potential and could be a shocking 4th-5th round pick and if he falls past that he will be a huge steal. His size, hands, speed, and athletic ability make him an ideal developmental project. Once he really learns the game and improves as a blocker the former basketball star could be a starter in the NFL.

FALLING

QB Pat Devlin, Delaware- Has struggled with making the throws needed in the NFL. Not impressing the folks I talked to. They like some things about him but his inconsistency at the Shrine practices and inability to win the NC game after being ahead has him more in the mid 5th to late 6th round range than the 3rd-4th like most media outlets have him.

DE Christian Anthony, Grambling State- I hate this for him. He went from a 4th-6th round prospect to someone who now likely won't even get into a camp. Teams know he had a heart attack and are concerned about the higher risk he could have another, the insurance settlement they would face if he had one while in camp, and the fact even if okay he would likely have a shorter career. No matter what he does in the postseason it would be surprising to see him even get a tryout based on what teams are telling me.

TOUGH TO GAUGE

CB Cortez Allen, The Citadel- He has flashed some athletic ability but struggles in coverage at the Shrine practices. He is smooth and fluid just like on his college tape but struggled in one on one drills and even had some reps where he would have been called for holding in games. There are things about him that make me say he is a tryout player at best and then traits that make him look like a 3rd round pick. He likely is looking at the average of the two as a 6th-PFA prospect.

Hey man, hearing anything on my AppState boys? I have a feeling that LeGree's stock is dropping. Thanks for your posts.

[SmallCollegeFBFan]

Based on what my sources at the Shrine and my own film evaluations here are the players whose stock is changing over the last couple weeks:

RISING

OT/OG Will Rackley, Lehigh- He is showing what most figured that he is not a tackle at the next level but could be a very good guard. He bends well and is strong. Should be a solid 4th-5th round pick.

CB Justin Rogers, Richmond- He is really impressing people at the Shrine and looks more like a 5th round pick than a 7th round or PFA like many have him.

CB Korey Lindsey, Southern Illinois- Lindsey has looked pretty good out at the Shrine and should solidify himself in the 4th-5th round. A lot of folks abandoned his ranking when he didn't get an early combine invite but I won't. He is a legit mid round guy who will surprise some folks.

TE Julius Thomas, Portland State- He is raw but has so much potential and could be a shocking 4th-5th round pick and if he falls past that he will be a huge steal. His size, hands, speed, and athletic ability make him an ideal developmental project. Once he really learns the game and improves as a blocker the former basketball star could be a starter in the NFL.

FALLING

QB Pat Devlin, Delaware- Has struggled with making the throws needed in the NFL. Not impressing the folks I talked to. They like some things about him but his inconsistency at the Shrine practices and inability to win the NC game after being ahead has him more in the mid 5th to late 6th round range than the 3rd-4th like most media outlets have him.

DE Christian Anthony, Grambling State- I hate this for him. He went from a 4th-6th round prospect to someone who now likely won't even get into a camp. Teams know he had a heart attack and are concerned about the higher risk he could have another, the insurance settlement they would face if he had one while in camp, and the fact even if okay he would likely have a shorter career. No matter what he does in the postseason it would be surprising to see him even get a tryout based on what teams are telling me.

TOUGH TO GAUGE

CB Cortez Allen, The Citadel- He has flashed some athletic ability but struggles in coverage at the Shrine practices. He is smooth and fluid just like on his college tape but struggled in one on one drills and even had some reps where he would have been called for holding in games. There are things about him that make me say he is a tryout player at best and then traits that make him look like a 3rd round pick. He likely is looking at the average of the two as a 6th-PFA prospect.

Hey man, hearing anything on my AppState boys? I have a feeling that LeGree's stock is dropping. Thanks for your posts.

LeGree ran a 4.52 in training recently but other than that nothing new on him. All of them will be in the NFLPA game so there should be plenty of news then.

They are all borderline draft picks at this point although my personal opinion is that LeGree is the only one I would draft. Smith is tight in the hips and can't play in space in the NFL making him an ILB only while Kilgore is moving from OT to OG and will need to bulk up some, get stronger, and work on technique making him a project. With LeGree I think he can play special teams right away and play the nickel safety because of his ball skills so I would take him in the 6th or 7th round while the other two I would want as free agents who could contribute in a couple years.

[Chemhen]

Yeah I hope he bounces back some. I am hearing conflicting stuff but many of these draftniks don't ever do their own homework and just copy others they talk to thus I think many of them try to lean towards what they hear rather than what they see. Perhaps because many of them aren't even sure what they see.

For example one draft writer was criticizing Cortez Allen saying he uses his hands too much. How is that bad to be physical? Some of them are not very bright at all.

Two words to emphasize my agreement.

MEL KIPER

I know you recall his scathing indictment of the Jaguars two years ago for picking Derek Cox early in the third round. Classic example of one of the "expert" analysts shooting off his mouth when he had no idea what he was talking about. Cox, of course, became an immediate starter for the Jags at one of the most difficult positions in football.

Wasn't there talk that Kiper took money from certain agents to pump up their players?

[SmallCollegeFBFan]

Two words to emphasize my agreement.

MEL KIPER

I know you recall his scathing indictment of the Jaguars two years ago for picking Derek Cox early in the third round. Classic example of one of the "expert" analysts shooting off his mouth when he had no idea what he was talking about. Cox, of course, became an immediate starter for the Jags at one of the most difficult positions in football.

Wasn't there talk that Kiper took money from certain agents to pump up their players?

I don't know it for sure but I have heard it. Would not doubt it. All of the big names out there are rumored to. I have heard things about Kiper, McShay, Mayock, Pat Kirwan, and Gil Brandt that they are all in bed with at least one or more agents. Don't have proof of it but there are rumors, which means the chances it is true is 50/50. Could be jealous folks starting the rumors or it could be true and just nobody has able to pin down evidence.