California Dreamin' ... about TEXAS Jobs!

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Has state government hindered economic and job growth in California and helped in Texas?

YES, state government has hindered economic and job growth in California and helped economic and job growth in Texas!
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73%
NO, state government has NOT hindered economic and job growth in California and OR helped economic and job growth in Texas!
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Not fair/my pussy hurts/it's all Bush's fault/hate your stinkin' polls
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7%
Undecided/Other
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20%
 
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Re: California Dreamin' ... about TEXAS Jobs!

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travelinman67 wrote:
biobengal wrote:That's the problem with state's rights..... or even states within a nation; some prefer to regulate like Columbia and some want to regulate like Sweden. Ultimately, all states will race to the bottom and end up looking like China.
Trying to attract business and jobs is a "...race to the bottom..." ?

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At the expense of a high standard of living and strong middle class...yes.
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travelinman67 wrote:
biobengal wrote:That's the problem with state's rights..... or even states within a nation; some prefer to regulate like Columbia and some want to regulate like Sweden. Ultimately, all states will race to the bottom and end up looking like China.
Trying to attract business and jobs is a "...race to the bottom..." ?

:o

Wow!!
More like a California nightmare.... Texas, the minimum wage state.

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biobengal wrote:
travelinman67 wrote:
Trying to attract business and jobs is a "...race to the bottom..." ?

:o

Wow!!
More like a California nightmare.... Texas, the minimum wage state.

http://www.mysanantonio.com/business/ar ... 311815.php
9.5% of hourly wage workers in TX are making minimum wage according to the article. Who cares. The majority of them are low/no skill teens, 20 somethings.
http://www.bls.gov/cps/minwage2010.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
And for those very few of them are the sole breadwinner with kids, they get welfare stuff like food stamps, EITC, medicaid, subsidized housing, etc, etc.

2ndly, the cost of living in TX is much lower- right to work state, no state income. CA is the highest (or 2nd highest) tax state.

According to
http://www.costoflivingbystate.org/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
TX has the 2nd lowest cost of living, and CA the 2nd highest. In general, $7.25 an hr in TX will go ALOT farther than it will in CA.
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kalm wrote:
travelinman67 wrote:
Trying to attract business and jobs is a "...race to the bottom..." ?

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At the expense of a high standard of living and strong middle class...yes.
Coming from CA and having spent plenty of time in Texas...I'd say Texas gets the nod (for reasons cited by BD). The cost of living in CA (wage dollar/living costs) is shameful.

U.C. Regents just raised tuition AGAIN, doubling the cost in the past 4 years. DMV has become the defacto stop-gap revenue generator for the State...again, most fees have DOUBLED in the past 4 years. Worse, CA's leftislature has used DMV to engineer policies by punitively raising fees for larger vehicles AND PASSENGER TRUCKS. That includes most veh. under 10,000GVW, which includes most service/field work vehicles (punishing the businessman).
We're not talking about a few dollars...we're talking about hundreds, even thousands, per veh. annually.
Insurance, whether workers comp, genl. liab., auto, personal, you name it...are the highest in the nation.
Kalm, you're deluding yourself if you think a "Progressive" govt. improves overall standard of living.
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Re: California Dreamin' ... about TEXAS Jobs!

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travelinman67 wrote:
kalm wrote:
At the expense of a high standard of living and strong middle class...yes.
Coming from CA and having spent plenty of time in Texas...I'd say Texas gets the nod (for reasons cited by BD). The cost of living in CA (wage dollar/living costs) is shameful.

U.C. Regents just raised tuition AGAIN, doubling the cost in the past 4 years. DMV has become the defacto stop-gap revenue generator for the State...again, most fees have DOUBLED in the past 4 years. Worse, CA's leftislature has used DMV to engineer policies by punitively raising fees for larger vehicles AND PASSENGER TRUCKS. That includes most veh. under 10,000GVW, which includes most service/field work vehicles (punishing the businessman).
We're not talking about a few dollars...we're talking about hundreds, even thousands, per veh. annually.
Insurance, whether workers comp, genl. liab., auto, personal, you name it...are the highest in the nation.
Kalm, you're deluding yourself if you think a "Progressive" govt. improves overall standard of living.
Well it depends on how you define standard of living and progressive government. Many business taxes are regressive, and sales tax can be as well. Then again, I don't think there are too many people in the world who wouldn't want California's standard of living. Or Denmark's.
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travelinman67 wrote:
kalm wrote:
At the expense of a high standard of living and strong middle class...yes.
Coming from CA and having spent plenty of time in Texas...I'd say Texas gets the nod (for reasons cited by BD). The cost of living in CA (wage dollar/living costs) is shameful.

U.C. Regents just raised tuition AGAIN, doubling the cost in the past 4 years. DMV has become the defacto stop-gap revenue generator for the State...again, most fees have DOUBLED in the past 4 years. Worse, CA's leftislature has used DMV to engineer policies by punitively raising fees for larger vehicles AND PASSENGER TRUCKS. That includes most veh. under 10,000GVW, which includes most service/field work vehicles (punishing the businessman).
We're not talking about a few dollars...we're talking about hundreds, even thousands, per veh. annually.
Insurance, whether workers comp, genl. liab., auto, personal, you name it...are the highest in the nation.
Kalm, you're deluding yourself if you think a "Progressive" govt. improves overall standard of living.
California is overpopulated and polluted. Supply and demand Tman. You wanna move there and live, you have to pay. You wanna drive there, you have to pay. You wanna destroy the natural ecosystems to make a quick buck, you're gonna get a fight.

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D1B wrote:
travelinman67 wrote:
Coming from CA and having spent plenty of time in Texas...I'd say Texas gets the nod (for reasons cited by BD). The cost of living in CA (wage dollar/living costs) is shameful.

U.C. Regents just raised tuition AGAIN, doubling the cost in the past 4 years. DMV has become the defacto stop-gap revenue generator for the State...again, most fees have DOUBLED in the past 4 years. Worse, CA's leftislature has used DMV to engineer policies by punitively raising fees for larger vehicles AND PASSENGER TRUCKS. That includes most veh. under 10,000GVW, which includes most service/field work vehicles (punishing the businessman).
We're not talking about a few dollars...we're talking about hundreds, even thousands, per veh. annually.
Insurance, whether workers comp, genl. liab., auto, personal, you name it...are the highest in the nation.
Kalm, you're deluding yourself if you think a "Progressive" govt. improves overall standard of living.
California is overpopulated and polluted. Supply and demand Tman. You wanna move there and live, you have to pay. You wanna drive there, you have to pay. You wanna destroy the natural ecosystems to make a quick buck, you're gonna get a fight.

Good for California. :thumb:
Supply and demand?

In California?

The illegal immigrants "demand" govt funded education, health care and govt. assistance, and the working class is taxed into oblivion to "supply" them with these Dumbocrat legislated "benefits".

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