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Re: Bohl rumored to take Wisconsin job

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uofmman1122 wrote:
Mvemjsunpx wrote:
Not to mention his 2000-02 Griz teams and most of his Wyoming teams.

Breske zone-blitz-based scheme fits better in leagues that pass a decent amount, though, and the MVFC is definitely not that.
That makes sense. Thanks.

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Oh, thanks. I didn't even notice… :oops:

Breske's teams have historically stopped the run, of course, but the Griz have always had strong front-sevens which made it easier. I'm guessing the Bison didn't that year.
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Re: Bohl rumored to take Wisconsin job

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They sure seem strong now... :lol:

Regardless, I highly doubt that Bohl will be courted by Wisconsin in any serious manner. The have a bigger network of much more qualified UW insiders currently coaching around college and the pros that I'm sure they'd consider first (no offense to Bohl).
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Re: Bohl rumored to take Wisconsin job

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uofmman1122 wrote:They sure seem strong now... :lol:

Regardless, I highly doubt that Bohl will be courted by Wisconsin in any serious manner. The have a bigger network of much more qualified UW insiders currently coaching around college and the pros that I'm sure they'd consider first (no offense to Bohl).


Agreed. IMO, Bohl is not even on their radar.

Breske's time with the Bison was a disaster.
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uofmman1122 wrote:
FargoBison wrote:
We've only had one bad DC...Breske.
I honestly don't get why he was so bad at NDSU. :?

His Montana 2010 and 2011 defenses were some of the best we've had in years. Was it the personnel just not fitting or what?
We just didn't have the personnel to run his scheme at the time.....we were very average those years.
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Re: Bohl rumored to take Wisconsin job

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BisoNation wrote:
clenz wrote: I'd rather have Klieman leave than Bohl...

I've seen what Bohl did with him, and without him.


Bohl, I'm not scared of.
Um....you ever heard of Scottie Hazelton? Klieman is just running his defense...
The reason Klieman is, in my eyes, more important to NDSU than Bohl...look what Klieman has done at UNI, and what we have now. Look where NDSU was in defense before him...look at them now.

Look at any job before he was there, look at them now.


Straight from his NDSU bio

NDSU led the nation in scoring defense (12.73 ppg) and ranked 8th in turnover margin (+1.20 avg/g), 16th in pass efficiency defense (110.53 rating), 17th in rushing defense (118.73 avg/g), 19th in sacks (2.67 avg/g) and 20th in total defense (315.93 avg/g). The Bison defense allowed only 27 points in four FCS playoff games. Cornerback Marcus Williams was a consensus All-American, ranked among the national leaders with seven interceptions and scored four TDs including three on defense.

North Dakota State won the program's first NCAA Football Championship Subdivision (FCS) national championship on Jan. 7 with a 17-6 win over Sam Houston State. The Bison completed the season with a 14-1 record including a 7-1 ledger in winning the Missouri Valley Football Conference title.

Klieman spent nine seasons at the University of Northern Iowa as defensive coordinator, co-defensive coordinator and secondary coach from 2006-10 under head coach Mark Farley and 1991-93 under then head coach Terry Allen.

As defensive coordinator in 2009, Klieman led a UNI defensive unit that finished fourth in the nation in scoring defense (13.2 ppg). The Panthers also led the Missouri Valley Football Conference in rushing defense, passing defense and total defense, giving up a mere 267.2 yards per game. UNI held six of its 11 opponents to seven points or less during the 2009 season.

Under Klieman’s direction as co-defensive coordinator in 2008, the Panthers ranked No. 4 in the nation in turnover margin and No. 9 in the nation in scoring defense. The Panthers forced 40 turnovers in 2008, which included 24 interceptions and 16 fumble recoveries.

In 2007, the Panthers had 11 different players intercept passes. The 11 players tallied a total of 21 interceptions.


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Klieman came back to his alma mater (Northern Iowa) after serving as the Loras College head football coach in 2005. Prior to being named the Duhawk head coach, Klieman served as the Loras defensive coordinator and turned them into one of the Iowa Conference’s most feared defensive units. When he took over, the Duhawk defense was ninth in the conference. In 2004, the defense set a school record for fewest rushing yards allowed and saw three players earn all-conference honors. The 933 yards allowed on the ground (93.3 per game) was the top number in the Iowa Conference and was also 21st overall in NCAA Division III. The 2005 defense led the Iowa Conference in rush defense (121.4), pass defense (161.0 ypg) and total defense (282.4).





Tell me where NDSU's defense was before him....it was only 2 years before Klieman got there that NDSU finished 3-8 (with Bohl as the head coach)

2007 the NDSU defense gave up 320 yards per game
2008 the NDSU defense gave up 260 yards per game
2009 the NDSU defense gave up 360 yards per game
2010 the NDSU defense gave up 360 yards per game
2011 the NDSU defense gave up 315 yards per game (first with Coach K)
2012 the NDSU defense gave up 197 yards per game (first with Coach K running the defense)

Meanwhile the NDSU offensive average per game has dropped....and the UNI defensive yards per game allows has gone up, turnovers forced has gone way down...while NDSU has trended up...

Tell me again why I should fear Bohl without Klieman? Same reason you should fear a Farley defense without Klieman....you probably really shouldn't
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You're forgetting two 10-1 seasons before he got here. The Bison defense may not have been as impressive back then, but there are other ways to win games.
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BisoNation wrote:You're forgetting two 10-1 seasons before he got here. The Bison defense may not have been as impressive back then, but there are other ways to win games.
I was going with D1 seasons....I don't count transition seasons as D1...though 2007 was a transition season.
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Klieman is a very good coach but it is not all him.

Good recruiting before he even got there.
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uofmman1122 wrote:
Mvemjsunpx wrote:
Not to mention his 2000-02 Griz teams and most of his Wyoming teams.

Breske zone-blitz-based scheme fits better in leagues that pass a decent amount, though, and the MVFC is definitely not that.
That makes sense. Thanks.

Also congrats on 4,000 posts. :thumb:
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Transition season???...we played an all DI schedule in 2006 with two FBS games. I think you can count that Clenz.

NDSU gave up 253.64 yards in 2006. NDSU has consistently had a very strong defense under Bohl. I think he has had more to do with our success than coach Klieman. After our struggles in 2008 and 2009 Bohl placed a lot of emphasis on getting better on the DL and putting more athletes on that side of the ball and going back to the principles our defense had in 2003-2007 which has been lost when Breske came in and wanted to change som things.
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Re: Bohl rumored to take Wisconsin job

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Guys, it's all about the Jimmies and Joes. You need the guys to run the defense. That's what makes great coaches. Bad players make bad coaches. Good players make good coaches.
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