Make sure and get back to me regarding the science behind the hockey stick denial, pause, and Heartland Institute.AZGrizFan wrote:Classic defense of someone who's obviously lost an argument. Very Douche1Baggish of you.kalm wrote:
I already swatted this one out of the gym .
Follow the money/control.kalm wrote:Make sure and get back to me regarding the science behind the hockey stick denial, pause, and Heartland Institute.AZGrizFan wrote:
Classic defense of someone who's obviously lost an argument. Very Douche1Baggish of you.
Exactly!AZGrizFan wrote:Follow the money/control.kalm wrote:
Make sure and get back to me regarding the science behind the hockey stick denial, pause, and Heartland Institute.
Yep. Government. It's bad.kalm wrote:Exactly!AZGrizFan wrote:
Follow the money/control.
AZGrizFan wrote:Yep. Government. It's bad.kalm wrote:
Exactly!
Especially government bought and paid for, manipulated by big polluters...oops....errrr....I mean those scientists.AZGrizFan wrote:Yep. Government. It's bad.kalm wrote:
Exactly!
Interesting that you know how big expando's dick is.Cap'n Cat wrote:AZGrizFan wrote:
Yep. Government. It's bad.
If you had half a mind, you Conk dork, you'd know that government is good and politics-in-the-name-of-government is bad. Brainwashed by the ultra-right. How you can look yourself in the mirror in the morning and not be utterly embarrassed is beyond contemplation.
You're just expandspanos with a much smaller dick.
Yeah. Bought and paid for by big polluters....yet spending billions and billions and billions of dollars per year funding ANTI-big polluter "research".kalm wrote:Especially government bought and paid for, manipulated by big polluters...oops....errrr....I mean those scientists.AZGrizFan wrote:
Yep. Government. It's bad.
Good point. I wonder how much much we spend on research compares to how much we spend on oil subsidies and military intervention?AZGrizFan wrote:Yeah. Bought and paid for by big polluters....yet spending billions and billions and billions of dollars per year funding ANTI-big polluter "research".kalm wrote:
Especially government bought and paid for, manipulated by big polluters...oops....errrr....I mean those scientists.
Swatted?kalm wrote:I already swatted this one out of the gym .AZGrizFan wrote:
Exactly.
Apples and oranges. Apples and oranges.kalm wrote:Good point. I wonder how much much we spend on research compares to how much we spend on oil subsidies and military intervention?AZGrizFan wrote:
Yeah. Bought and paid for by big polluters....yet spending billions and billions and billions of dollars per year funding ANTI-big polluter "research".
Your image failed...kind of like your lack of an honest response....Baldy wrote:Swatted?kalm wrote:
I already swatted this one out of the gym .
Just another whiff....
In the context of this discussion....please explain...AZGrizFan wrote:Apples and oranges. Apples and oranges.kalm wrote:
Good point. I wonder how much much we spend on research compares to how much we spend on oil subsidies and military intervention?
When you don't have a response and all you have is laughing emoticons, you should just move to another thread.kalm wrote:Your image failed...kind of like your lack of an honest response....Baldy wrote: Swatted?
Just another whiff....
Impossible to explain since you don't even know the definition of a subsidy.kalm wrote:In the context of this discussion....please explain...AZGrizFan wrote:
Apples and oranges. Apples and oranges.
Baldy wrote:When you don't have a response and all you have is laughing emoticons, you should just move to another thread.kalm wrote:
Your image failed...kind of like your lack of an honest response....
Subsidies in a broad sense are simply support. In the narrow sense of energy subsidies they include things like tax breaks, infrastructure investment, and R&D. But it would be naive to not include military expenditures.Baldy wrote:Impossible to explain since you don't even know the definition of a subsidy.kalm wrote:
In the context of this discussion....please explain...
In a broad sense, "simply support"?kalm wrote:Subsidies in a broad sense are simply support. In the narrow sense of energy subsidies they include things like tax breaks, infrastructure investment, and R&D. But it would be naive to not include military expenditures.Baldy wrote: Impossible to explain since you don't even know the definition of a subsidy.
Let me know if you need help with anything else.
Hey look! I can post definitions too!Baldy wrote:In a broad sense, "simply support"?kalm wrote:
Subsidies in a broad sense are simply support. In the narrow sense of energy subsidies they include things like tax breaks, infrastructure investment, and R&D. But it would be naive to not include military expenditures.
Let me know if you need help with anything else.
subsidy - noun: Monetary assistance granted by a government to a person or group in support of an enterprise regarded as being in the public interest.
Unless you are in Obama's preferred group of alternative energies, there is no such thing as subsidies for carbon based energy companies. I know it is mouth watering red meat for the simpletons of your ilk, but simply being allowed to keep more of YOUR money doesn't meet the qualifications for being a subsidy.
I thought you were smarter than that.
.Energy subsidies are measures that keep prices for consumers below market levels or for producers above market levels, or reduce costs for consumers and producers.[citation needed] Energy subsidies may be direct cash transfers to producers, consumers, or related bodies, as well as indirect support mechanisms, such as tax exemptions and rebates, price controls, trade restrictions, and limits on market access. They may also include energy conservation subsidies.[citation needed] The development of today's major modern energy industries have all relied on substantial subsidy support
You can't pay to keep the straits of Hormuz open much less all the other forms of subsidies that the fossil fuel industry has enjoyed over the years with "people being able to keep their money."Types of energy subsidies are:
Direct financial transfers – grants to producers; grants to consumers; low-interest or preferential loans to producers.
Preferential tax treatments – rebates or exemption on royalties, duties, producer levies and tariffs; tax credit; accelerated depreciation allowances on energy supply equipment.
Trade restrictions – quota, technical restrictions and trade embargoes.
Energy-related services provided by government at less than full cost – direct investment in energy infrastructure; public research and development.
Regulation of the energy sector – demand guarantees and mandated deployment rates; price controls; market-access restrictions; preferential planning consent and controls over access to resources.
Failure to impose external costs – environmental externality costs; energy security risks and price volatility costs.[4]
Depletion Allowance – allows a deduction from gross income of up to ~27% for the depletion of exhaustible resources (oil, gas, minerals).
Wikipedia.kalm wrote:Hey look! I can post definitions too!Baldy wrote: In a broad sense, "simply support"?
subsidy - noun: Monetary assistance granted by a government to a person or group in support of an enterprise regarded as being in the public interest.
Unless you are in Obama's preferred group of alternative energies, there is no such thing as subsidies for carbon based energy companies. I know it is mouth watering red meat for the simpletons of your ilk, but simply being allowed to keep more of YOUR money doesn't meet the qualifications for being a subsidy.
I thought you were smarter than that.
.Energy subsidies are measures that keep prices for consumers below market levels or for producers above market levels, or reduce costs for consumers and producers.[citation needed] Energy subsidies may be direct cash transfers to producers, consumers, or related bodies, as well as indirect support mechanisms, such as tax exemptions and rebates, price controls, trade restrictions, and limits on market access. They may also include energy conservation subsidies.[citation needed] The development of today's major modern energy industries have all relied on substantial subsidy support
You can't pay to keep the straits of Hormuz open much less all the other forms of subsidies that the fossil fuel industry has enjoyed over the years with "people being able to keep their money."Types of energy subsidies are:
Direct financial transfers – grants to producers; grants to consumers; low-interest or preferential loans to producers.
Preferential tax treatments – rebates or exemption on royalties, duties, producer levies and tariffs; tax credit; accelerated depreciation allowances on energy supply equipment.
Trade restrictions – quota, technical restrictions and trade embargoes.
Energy-related services provided by government at less than full cost – direct investment in energy infrastructure; public research and development.
Regulation of the energy sector – demand guarantees and mandated deployment rates; price controls; market-access restrictions; preferential planning consent and controls over access to resources.
Failure to impose external costs – environmental externality costs; energy security risks and price volatility costs.[4]
Depletion Allowance – allows a deduction from gross income of up to ~27% for the depletion of exhaustible resources (oil, gas, minerals).
That's not to say we shouldn't have, but at this point renewables are deservedly getting more of a look. Government picking winners and losers...how un-capitalistic of you...
If only we would do the same.expandspanos wrote:Youtube keeps removing my account..
