Israel Hates Free Speech, Loves 1984

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Re: Israel Hates Free Speech, Loves 1984

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Ivytalk wrote:Greenwald watered down the effectiveness of his article by throwing in a few gratuitous slaps at the Israeli government, anyone who disagrees with his views about the Palestinians, and "war profiteer" Richard Blum. That said, the fundamental premise of the piece is correct as a matter of First Amendment jurisprudence: codes against "hate speech", of whatever variety, at a state university are invalid prior restraints. Even Abraham Foxman agrees with that. And threatening to "sic" Dianne Feinstein on the UC Board of Regents is just another iteration of crony capitalism.
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Re: Israel Hates Free Speech, Loves 1984

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kalm wrote: I brought up constitutionality as a question to you because otherwise, there's really no other point to what you're saying (not that constitutionality would fly either).
A private citizen who withholds a voluntary contribution to a foundation in protest is not prohibiting, quashing, or preventing anyone from exercising their free speech rights. This is elementary...Civics 101 shit.
Liberals prohibiting the use of "microagressions" in classrooms through the power of student groups and legal threats over "hostile environments".

A US Senator and her defense contractor husband threatening political retribution unless Israel friendly speech codes are adopted.

Threatening to withhold donations unless...

All three are attempts to limit speech that each group finds disagreeable. All three groups are entitled to make that attempt. Greenwald's beef is with the BOR for kowtowing to the threats. College liberal elites are constantly criticized for repressing conservative dissent and speakers on their campuses. Even comedians are starting to stay away from campus gigs.

But I guess you, Feinstein, the Illinois BOR, and the Dartmouth Lesbian Lives Matter Club have all figured out that it's perfectly fine as long as that speech offends you.

Congrats! :clap:
:?

You still just don't get it. :lol:
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Re: Israel Hates Free Speech, Loves 1984

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Baldy wrote:
kalm wrote: I brought up constitutionality as a question to you because otherwise, there's really no other point to what you're saying (not that constitutionality would fly either).



Liberals prohibiting the use of "microagressions" in classrooms through the power of student groups and legal threats over "hostile environments".

A US Senator and her defense contractor husband threatening political retribution unless Israel friendly speech codes are adopted.

Threatening to withhold donations unless...

All three are attempts to limit speech that each group finds disagreeable. All three groups are entitled to make that attempt. Greenwald's beef is with the BOR for kowtowing to the threats. College liberal elites are constantly criticized for repressing conservative dissent and speakers on their campuses. Even comedians are starting to stay away from campus gigs.

But I guess you, Feinstein, the Illinois BOR, and the Dartmouth Lesbian Lives Matter Club have all figured out that it's perfectly fine as long as that speech offends you.

Congrats! :clap:
:?

You still just don't get it. :lol:
My thoughts exactly!

Baldy and Kalm, talking past each other... :shock:

:lol:
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