Shhhhhhhh don't tell JSO, but...

[OL FU]

I like it. and for shrinking government to a manageable size, balancing the budget, individual liberty over government mandated behavior

Open border you may as well have no borders at all. That's the problem the EU has now.
Maybe a partial one, but a full pardon for Snowden would be a very bad precident.
Yeah, big military reduction (maybe not quite 50%). Out of Europe- would be nice to see the Europeans get scareed shitless at all of a sudden having to pay for their own defense, which they have't had to do since 1941. But also if in exchange for out of the mid east allow drilling ANWR, off both coasts, other non nat park public lands. But the libs will never let that happen.

Freedom it's a very important concept. Unfortunately we have forgotten it.

Yeah maybe we don't need totally open borders. Yeah maybe we don't need a 50% reduction in military spending . The one thing I know for certain is we don't need Trump and we don't need Clinton!

[JohnStOnge]

"Democrats go to Clinton 89 - 3 percent, as Republicans go to Trump 84 - 6 percent. Independent voters are divided with 36 percent for Trump and 34 percent for Clinton."

But JSO says Republicans don't support Trump.

As a follow up to discussion on that:

The Fox News poll came out today and had a question that directly addressed that issue. Here are the results:



There's lots of error in polls but in this case it would be reasonable to conclude that, though Hillary's position isn't ideal, she's more accepted by her party than Trump is. There is high confidence that the majority of Democrats are satisfied with her as the nominee. Whether the majority of Republicans are satisfied with Trump as the nominee or not is uncertain. But in any case it's close. If a majority does feel comfortable with him it's a narrow majority.

[andy7171]

Holy shit. Could anyone of us, besides Spandos, could have predicted JSO openly promoting Hillary for President? Even houngdog, klam and skettyfelly have to be out of there minds. Is it Bills love of the underage flights to whore island??


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[JohnStOnge]

Holy ****. Could anyone of us, besides Spandos, could have predicted JSO openly promoting Hillary for President? Even houngdog, klam and skettyfelly have to be out of there minds. Is it Bills love of the underage flights to whore island??

It's how bad the nominee the Republican Primary electorate picked is. If they'd have picked ANY other of the people who started the Republican Primary process I'd be pulling for them. Hard.

The Republican Primary electorate just went totally out of bounds.

[kalm]

Holy ****. Could anyone of us, besides Spandos, could have predicted JSO openly promoting Hillary for President? Even houngdog, klam and skettyfelly have to be out of there minds. Is it Bills love of the underage flights to whore island??

It's how bad the nominee the Republican Primary electorate picked is. If they'd have picked ANY other of the people who started the Republican Primary process I'd be pulling for them. Hard.

The Republican Primary electorate just went totally out of bounds.

The fact you'd so stridently take Cruz, Jindal, Perry, Fiorina, Carson (I'm sure I'm forgetting another looser) over Trump ain't exactly something one should be bragging about.

[JohnStOnge]

The fact you'd so stridently take Cruz, Jindal, Perry, Fiorina, Carson (I'm sure I'm forgetting another looser) over Trump ain't exactly something one should be bragging about.

I don't know if "bragging" is the right word. But I do think any of those you just named would be better than Trump. Trump is a really, really bad alternative.

[houndawg]

The fact you'd so stridently take Cruz, Jindal, Perry, Fiorina, Carson (I'm sure I'm forgetting another looser) over Trump ain't exactly something one should be bragging about.

I don't know if "bragging" is the right word. But I do think any of those you just named would be better than Trump. Trump is a really, really bad alternative.

Any of those would be just as bad if not worse than Trump.

Carly Fiorina

The Republican Party in aggregate and individually couldn't be more clueless about America if they lived on Uranus.

[JohnStOnge]

I don't know if "bragging" is the right word. But I do think any of those you just named would be better than Trump. Trump is a really, really bad alternative.

Any of those would be just as bad if not worse than Trump.

Carly Fiorina

The Republican Party in aggregate and individually couldn't be more clueless about America if they lived on Uranus.

Carly Fiorina is sane. Donald Trump is not sane. He has serious emotional maturity and stability issues and you are talking about a very important job. This is not a "not any worse than any other Republican" situation; even from your standpoint. This is a unique situation. This is a very sick man.

[houndawg]

Any of those would be just as bad if not worse than Trump.

Carly Fiorina

The Republican Party in aggregate and individually couldn't be more clueless about America if they lived on Uranus.

Carly Fiorina is sane. Donald Trump is not sane. He has serious emotional maturity and stability issues and you are talking about a very important job. This is not a "not any worse than any other Republican" situation; even from your standpoint. This is a unique situation. This is a very sick man.

She's a pathological liar John. And that's for openers. The sad truth is that the republicans don't have fvck all for candidates - anywhere. They have managed once again to snatch defeat from the jaws of a gift-wrapped victory. A more useless bunch of pendejos you'll not find in this solar system.... can't even compete with the nation's most reviled politician...that tells you all you need to know about these clowns, John. She may be crooked but she's just too quick for them....and you want one of those butt gnats to cut deals with Putin

Let us know when you come to your senses.