Condescending lecture from 89 in 3-2-1...GannonFan wrote:Hey, I voted for Stein in Pennsylvania and it's not like my vote would've gone to Clinton. I just didn't want to leave the vote blank so I did the next best thing, I picked someone without a prayer of winning.CID1990 wrote:
What happens if you add Johnson's voters to Trump's total?
Nah, me and 89 are buds, he understands my dilemma in the past election - bumbling and potentially dangerous buffoon versus the perfectly corrupt embodiment of the status quo.Ivytalk wrote:Condescending lecture from 89 in 3-2-1...GannonFan wrote:
Hey, I voted for Stein in Pennsylvania and it's not like my vote would've gone to Clinton. I just didn't want to leave the vote blank so I did the next best thing, I picked someone without a prayer of winning.
War and Peace diarrhea from JSO is more likely in 3... 2....Ivytalk wrote:Condescending lecture from 89 in 3-2-1...GannonFan wrote:
Hey, I voted for Stein in Pennsylvania and it's not like my vote would've gone to Clinton. I just didn't want to leave the vote blank so I did the next best thing, I picked someone without a prayer of winning.
Exactly..!!! ^ ThisGannonFan wrote:Nah, me and 89 are buds, he understands my dilemma in the past election - bumbling and potentially dangerous buffoon versus the perfectly corrupt embodiment of the status quo.Ivytalk wrote:
Condescending lecture from 89 in 3-2-1...
What would you have done if Obama could have run for a third term and it would've been Obama vs. Trump on the ballot? That's not a trick question or anything. I am honestly curious about what you'd have done.GannonFan wrote:Hey, I voted for Stein in Pennsylvania and it's not like my vote would've gone to Clinton. I just didn't want to leave the vote blank so I did the next best thing, I picked someone without a prayer of winning.CID1990 wrote:
What happens if you add Johnson's voters to Trump's total?
And, I voted for Johnson in Illinois. Not like my vote would have gone to Trump.GannonFan wrote:Hey, I voted for Stein in Pennsylvania and it's not like my vote would've gone to Clinton. I just didn't want to leave the vote blank so I did the next best thing, I picked someone without a prayer of winning.CID1990 wrote:
What happens if you add Johnson's voters to Trump's total?
Exactly. If not Johnson, it would have been somebody else. Not Clinton. And not Trump.Skjellyfetti wrote:And, I voted for Johnson in Illinois. Not like my vote would have gone to Trump.GannonFan wrote:
Hey, I voted for Stein in Pennsylvania and it's not like my vote would've gone to Clinton. I just didn't want to leave the vote blank so I did the next best thing, I picked someone without a prayer of winning.
Don't know. I would never vote for Trump unless he was running against something truly worse, like Ted Cruz for instance, and even then I doubt I could do it. Obama had run his course, his effectiveness as a leader was long gone. He was a celebrity, a very popular one, at the end, as he is now. I would've likely thrown my vote away again as a personal protest against the vacuous tripe running for President.JohnStOnge wrote:What would you have done if Obama could have run for a third term and it would've been Obama vs. Trump on the ballot? That's not a trick question or anything. I am honestly curious about what you'd have done.GannonFan wrote:
Hey, I voted for Stein in Pennsylvania and it's not like my vote would've gone to Clinton. I just didn't want to leave the vote blank so I did the next best thing, I picked someone without a prayer of winning.
JSO didn't back Trump.andy7171 wrote:This may be true, but it says a lot about the worst candidate in the history of the US, whom you backed.JohnStOnge wrote:
Well, one thing that is objectively true is that if you add Stein's votes to Clinton's in Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin the totals exceed what Trump got in those States.
I would have voted 3rd party for Johnson again. Obama has some culpability for Trumps rise. Long game.JohnStOnge wrote:What would you have done if Obama could have run for a third term and it would've been Obama vs. Trump on the ballot? That's not a trick question or anything. I am honestly curious about what you'd have done.GannonFan wrote:
Hey, I voted for Stein in Pennsylvania and it's not like my vote would've gone to Clinton. I just didn't want to leave the vote blank so I did the next best thing, I picked someone without a prayer of winning.
And if you added Johnson's votes to Trumps in....oh wait. Never mind. He already won enough states.JohnStOnge wrote:Well, one thing that is objectively true is that if you add Stein's votes to Clinton's in Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin the totals exceed what Trump got in those States.kalm wrote: If that's true, good.
States are stupid. Go popular vote!AZGrizFan wrote:And if you added Johnson's votes to Trumps in....oh wait. Never mind. He already won enough states.JohnStOnge wrote:
Well, one thing that is objectively true is that if you add Stein's votes to Clinton's in Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin the totals exceed what Trump got in those States.
Sure, He's not perfect....Rob Iola wrote:If only JSO posted rambling videos, he'd be the complete package...
I asked because of the results of the Selzer & Company poll I've mentioned in other posts. As noted in those other posts that is a 538 A+ rated poll that was conducted November 4 through 6 and had Clinton winning the overall popular vote by 3 percentage points point estimate.GannonFan wrote:Don't know. I would never vote for Trump unless he was running against something truly worse, like Ted Boobs for instance, and even then I doubt I could do it. Obama had run his course, his effectiveness as a leader was long gone. He was a celebrity, a very popular one, at the end, as he is now. I would've likely thrown my vote away again as a personal protest against the vacuous tripe running for President.JohnStOnge wrote:
What would you have done if Obama could have run for a third term and it would've been Obama vs. Trump on the ballot? That's not a trick question or anything. I am honestly curious about what you'd have done.
JohnStOnge wrote:I asked because of the results of the Selzer & Company poll I've mentioned in other posts. As noted in those other polls that is a 538 A+ rated poll that was conducted November 4 through 6 and had Clinton winning the overall popular vote by 3 percentage points point estimate.GannonFan wrote:
Don't know. I would never vote for Trump unless he was running against something truly worse, like Ted Boobs for instance, and even then I doubt I could do it. Obama had run his course, his effectiveness as a leader was long gone. He was a celebrity, a very popular one, at the end, as he is now. I would've likely thrown my vote away again as a personal protest against the vacuous tripe running for President.
When it had just Trump vs. Clinton in a 2 way race it had it as Clinton 46, Trump 43. But when it asked the same people who they'd vote for if it was Obama vs. Trump in a two way race it was Obama 53, Trump 41. That shows two things for the respondents. One is that there were people who said they'd vote for Trump when the alternative was Clinton who would've voted for Obama if HE was the alternative. When Obama was the alternative in a two way race Trump support dropped from 43 to 41 percent. The other thing is that there were fewer people who were unsure. 46+43 = 89 while 53 + 41 = 94. There were people who wouldn't say they'd vote for either candidate if the Democrat was Clinton who would have voted Democrat if the Democrat was Obama.
TL/DRJohnStOnge wrote:I asked because of the results of the Selzer & Company poll I've mentioned in other posts. As noted in those other posts that is a 538 A+ rated poll that was conducted November 4 through 6 and had Clinton winning the overall popular vote by 3 percentage points point estimate.GannonFan wrote:
Don't know. I would never vote for Trump unless he was running against something truly worse, like Ted Boobs for instance, and even then I doubt I could do it. Obama had run his course, his effectiveness as a leader was long gone. He was a celebrity, a very popular one, at the end, as he is now. I would've likely thrown my vote away again as a personal protest against the vacuous tripe running for President.
When it had just Trump vs. Clinton in a 2 way race it had it as Clinton 46, Trump 43. But when it asked the same people who they'd vote for if it was Obama vs. Trump in a two way race it was Obama 53, Trump 41. That shows two things for the respondents. One is that there were people who said they'd vote for Trump when the alternative was Clinton who would've voted for Obama if HE was the alternative. When Obama was the alternative in a two way race Trump support dropped from 43 to 41 percent. The other thing is that there were fewer people who were unsure. 46+43 = 89 while 53 + 41 = 94. There were people who wouldn't say they'd vote for either candidate if the Democrat was Clinton who would have voted Democrat if the Democrat was Obama.
Except its' not a national election. It's 52 different regional elections. But then, you knew that.Vidav wrote:States are stupid. Go popular vote!AZGrizFan wrote:
And if you added Johnson's votes to Trumps in....oh wait. Never mind. He already won enough states.
I forget what I know.AZGrizFan wrote:Except its' not a national election. It's 52 different regional elections. But then, you knew that.Vidav wrote:
States are stupid. Go popular vote!
Yeah...that's a stupid idea.Vidav wrote:States are stupid. Go popular vote!AZGrizFan wrote:
And if you added Johnson's votes to Trumps in....oh wait. Never mind. He already won enough states.
