Could Trump have made it through an Engineering Curriculum?

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Could Trump have made it through an Engineering curriculum?

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HI54UNI wrote:
JohnStOnge wrote:I can't believe there are actually two people here who think Trump could have handled an Engineering curriculum.
I can't believe there aren't more than 2 people that voted yes just to trigger you.
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Most people - including Trump - can make it through an engineering curriculum if you put in the time and effort.

His laziness, lack of intellectual curiousity, and inability to change with new information is his issue.

And the fact that he's a dick and shady AF.
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∞∞∞ wrote:Most people - including Trump - can make it through an engineering curriculum if you put in the time and effort.

His laziness, lack of intellectual curiousity, and inability to change with new information is his issue.

And the fact that he's a dick and shady AF.
If I remember correctly you made it through an engineering curriculum and I don't think you should sell yourself short. I do not think most people could make it. I'd be confident in betting that less than 10% of the general population could and that's being conservative. I started off as an Engineering major and I saw the curriculum.

I'll just use the McNeese State Electrical Engineering curriculum at https://catalog.mcneese.edu/preview_pro ... poid=19538 to illustrate. McNeese State doesn't have much of an academic reputation. But I guarantee you most people could not get through that curriculum. Most people are not going to be able to, for example, handle the calculus courses. Most people are not going to be able to handle the two Physics courses. Not at McNeese State. Not at anywhere else.
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Here's an interesting article:

https://qz.com/334926/your-college-majo ... t-you-are/

Since I was a Biology major I wish Biological Sciences had done a little better. Especially as compared to Humanities and Social Sciences. But it's pretty consistent with what my perceptions were before I read it.

BTW the only test among those listed I took was the GRE. If I'm interpreting what's going on with that one correctly I was a 620 so that makes me feel a little better. Mine was in 1984 and the GRE in that table is 2005 but it still makes me feel better. If I had life to do over again I'd have gone into mathematics and statistics instead of biology because I now know that I like that. Back then I didn't know what the hell I wanted to do.

Edit: Actually I think I did take the Armed Forces test. I considered going into the National Guard when I was casting about wondering what to do with my life and I took a test. The recruiter saw my results and got all excited. But I never signed up. I am NOT the military type. And I don't know what my results actually were.
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JohnStOnge wrote:
∞∞∞ wrote:Most people - including Trump - can make it through an engineering curriculum if you put in the time and effort.

His laziness, lack of intellectual curiousity, and inability to change with new information is his issue.

And the fact that he's a dick and shady AF.
If I remember correctly you made it through an engineering curriculum and I don't think you should sell yourself short. I do not think most people could make it. I'd be confident in betting that less than 10% of the general population could and that's being conservative. I started off as an Engineering major and I saw the curriculum.

I'll just use the McNeese State Electrical Engineering curriculum at https://catalog.mcneese.edu/preview_pro ... poid=19538 to illustrate. McNeese State doesn't have much of an academic reputation. But I guarantee you most people could not get through that curriculum. Most people are not going to be able to, for example, handle the calculus courses. Most people are not going to be able to handle the two Physics courses. Not at McNeese State. Not at anywhere else.
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Just because you felt that engineering was too much for you doesn’t mean that Trump couldn’t do it.
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CID1990 wrote:
JohnStOnge wrote:
If I remember correctly you made it through an engineering curriculum and I don't think you should sell yourself short. I do not think most people could make it. I'd be confident in betting that less than 10% of the general population could and that's being conservative. I started off as an Engineering major and I saw the curriculum.

I'll just use the McNeese State Electrical Engineering curriculum at https://catalog.mcneese.edu/preview_pro ... poid=19538 to illustrate. McNeese State doesn't have much of an academic reputation. But I guarantee you most people could not get through that curriculum. Most people are not going to be able to, for example, handle the calculus courses. Most people are not going to be able to handle the two Physics courses. Not at McNeese State. Not at anywhere else.
John,

Just because you felt that engineering was too much for you doesn’t mean that Trump couldn’t do it.
I didn't say it was too much for me. I went into engineering because a high school counselor saw my standardized test scores and recommended that. When I got into it I found that I wasn't interested in it. I did pass the courses I took while I was in it; including calculus and physics.

And, no, I don't think Trump could do it. And I don't think you believe he could either.
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JohnStOnge wrote:
CID1990 wrote:
John,

Just because you felt that engineering was too much for you doesn’t mean that Trump couldn’t do it.
I didn't say it was too much for me. I went into engineering because a high school counselor saw my standardized test scores and recommended that. When I got into it I found that I wasn't interested in it. I did pass the courses I took while I was in it; including calculus and physics.

And, no, I don't think Trump could do it. And I don't think you believe he could either.
Are you talking about the Trump of today? Or the Trump of 30 years ago?
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CID1990 wrote:
John,

Just because you felt that engineering was too much for you doesn’t mean that Trump couldn’t do it.
I didn't say it was too much for me. I went into engineering because a high school counselor saw my standardized test scores and recommended that. When I got into it I found that I wasn't interested in it. I did pass the courses I took while I was in it; including calculus and physics.

And, no, I don't think Trump could do it. And I don't think you believe he could either.
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JohnStOnge wrote:
I didn't say it was too much for me. I went into engineering because a high school counselor saw my standardized test scores and recommended that. When I got into it I found that I wasn't interested in it. I did pass the courses I took while I was in it; including calculus and physics.

And, no, I don't think Trump could do it. And I don't think you believe he could either.
Are you talking about the Trump of today? Or the Trump of 30 years ago?
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CID1990 wrote:
JohnStOnge wrote:
I didn't say it was too much for me. I went into engineering because a high school counselor saw my standardized test scores and recommended that. When I got into it I found that I wasn't interested in it. I did pass the courses I took while I was in it; including calculus and physics.

And, no, I don't think Trump could do it. And I don't think you believe he could either.
OMG I cant believe I let myself get sucked into this booger-eating contest of yours

Im going to go self flagellate now
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I just self-flatulated too.
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93henfan wrote:I just self-flatulated too.
Does it make a whooshing noise?


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93henfan wrote:I just self-flatulated too.
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CID1990 wrote:
JohnStOnge wrote:
I didn't say it was too much for me. I went into engineering because a high school counselor saw my standardized test scores and recommended that. When I got into it I found that I wasn't interested in it. I did pass the courses I took while I was in it; including calculus and physics.

And, no, I don't think Trump could do it. And I don't think you believe he could either.
OMG I cant believe I let myself get sucked into this booger-eating contest of yours

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Are you talking about the Trump of today? Or the Trump of 30 years ago?
You know, I did think about that. My thing has always not so much been getting through an Ivy League school. It's getting accepted to an Ivy League school. Normally if you get accepted to an Ivy League school and you're not in an under represented minority it means you're in the top 1% in terms of standardized test scores. But the word is that Trump got in because of connections.

The same was true of G.W. Bush. But we know what G.W. Bush's SAT score was and it put him in the top 3%. We don't know what any of Trump's standardized test scores are.

All that said I recognize the possibility that he was a lot brighter when he was 20 than he is now. But I still don't think he was ever a person that could handle an engineering curriculum.

What Trump is and has always been is a flim flam man. He's never done anything that suggests brilliance. He has not had a life that suggests he could've succeeded without Daddy's money to keep him afloat and bail him out as necessary. He failed at more business ventures than he succeeded in. But in the process he's also managed to cheat other people into taking the hit.

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Look, here's the thing. Ask yourself if Trump could EVER have done what Tillerson did in the business World. Could Donald Trump have EVER become CEO of Exxon? No way. And this flim flam man says Tillerson is "dumb" when the guy got an Engineering degree then worked his way up through Exxon to become CEO.

I hate to say it, but getting elected President does NOT say as much about someone's capability as working one's way up through Exxon to become CEO does. It's now self evident that you can get elected President by being a flim flam man.

Here's a summary of Tillerson's progress at Exxon:
Tillerson began his career as a civil engineer with Exxon in 1975 after graduating with a bachelor's degree in civil engineering from the University of Texas at Austin. By 1989 he had become general manager of the Exxon USA central production division. In 1995 he became president of Exxon Yemen Inc. and Esso Exploration and Production Khorat Inc. In 2006 Tillerson was elected chair and chief executive of Exxon.
I don't think there's ANY way Trump could've done that. And I don't think there is anybody on this board who really believes he could have either. You can't scam and flim flam your way through that. Tillerson is a WAY more competent person than Trump is.
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JohnStOnge wrote:Look, here's the thing. Ask yourself if Trump could EVER have done what Tillerson did in the business World. Could Donald Trump have EVER become CEO of Exxon? No way. And this flim flam man says Tillerson is "dumb" when the guy got an Engineering degree then worked his way up through Exxon to become CEO.

I hate to say it, but getting elected President does NOT say as much about someone's capability as working one's way up through Exxon to become CEO does. It's now self evident that you can get elected President by being a flim flam man.

Here's a summary of Tillerson's progress at Exxon:
Tillerson began his career as a civil engineer with Exxon in 1975 after graduating with a bachelor's degree in civil engineering from the University of Texas at Austin. By 1989 he had become general manager of the Exxon USA central production division. In 1995 he became president of Exxon Yemen Inc. and Esso Exploration and Production Khorat Inc. In 2006 Tillerson was elected chair and chief executive of Exxon.
I don't think there's ANY way Trump could've done that. And I don't think there is anybody on this board who really believes he could have either. You can't scam and flim flam your way through that. Tillerson is a WAY more competent person than Trump is.
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AZGrizFan wrote:
JohnStOnge wrote:Look, here's the thing. Ask yourself if Trump could EVER have done what Tillerson did in the business World. Could Donald Trump have EVER become CEO of Exxon? No way. And this flim flam man says Tillerson is "dumb" when the guy got an Engineering degree then worked his way up through Exxon to become CEO.

I hate to say it, but getting elected President does NOT say as much about someone's capability as working one's way up through Exxon to become CEO does. It's now self evident that you can get elected President by being a flim flam man.

Here's a summary of Tillerson's progress at Exxon:



I don't think there's ANY way Trump could've done that. And I don't think there is anybody on this board who really believes he could have either. You can't scam and flim flam your way through that. Tillerson is a WAY more competent person than Trump is.
Obama proved you didn’t have to have any skill other than being a con man to become president. Trump has just taken the ball across the goal line in that respect.
I disagree with Obama's philosophy of government but he is not a con man. He believed in what he was doing philosophically. Trump is just a low class, gutter level, con man.
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JohnStOnge wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:
Obama proved you didn’t have to have any skill other than being a con man to become president. Trump has just taken the ball across the goal line in that respect.
I disagree with Obama's philosophy of government but he is not a con man. He believed in what he was doing philosophically. Trump is just a low class, gutter level, con man.
Do you know what a "con" is?

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CAA Flagship wrote:
JohnStOnge wrote:
I disagree with Obama's philosophy of government but he is not a con man. He believed in what he was doing philosophically. Trump is just a low class, gutter level, con man.
Do you know what a "con" is?

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JohnStOnge wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:
Are you talking about the Trump of today? Or the Trump of 30 years ago?
You know, I did think about that. My thing has always not so much been getting through an Ivy League school. It's getting accepted to an Ivy League school. Normally if you get accepted to an Ivy League school and you're not in an under represented minority it means you're in the top 1% in terms of standardized test scores. But the word is that Trump got in because of connections.

The same was true of G.W. Bush. But we know what G.W. Bush's SAT score was and it put him in the top 3%. We don't know what any of Trump's standardized test scores are.

All that said I recognize the possibility that he was a lot brighter when he was 20 than he is now. But I still don't think he was ever a person that could handle an engineering curriculum.

What Trump is and has always been is a flim flam man. He's never done anything that suggests brilliance. He has not had a life that suggests he could've succeeded without Daddy's money to keep him afloat and bail him out as necessary. He failed at more business ventures than he succeeded in. But in the process he's also managed to cheat other people into taking the hit.

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UNI88 wrote:
CAA Flagship wrote: Do you know what a "con" is?

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CAA Flagship wrote:
JohnStOnge wrote:
I disagree with Obama's philosophy of government but he is not a con man. He believed in what he was doing philosophically. Trump is just a low class, gutter level, con man.
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