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BDKJMU wrote: Fri May 23, 2025 3:49 pm
UNI88 wrote: Fri May 23, 2025 3:01 pm
The vetting was "expedited" - was it as simple as - your skin is white, you "can be assimilated easily into our country", you're good to come to the USA.

What is best for America is continuing to attract the best and the brightest from around the world, regardless of skin color
. Scaring them away with threats of revoking their Visas, denying them entry into a college/university is NOT in America's long-term interests.

Protesting in support of Palestine makes someone an antisemite just as much as accepting a bribe, oops plane/gift, from sugar daddies who fund hamas and other terrorist organizations.

They're already here and our Constitution gives them the right to due process just like it gives people the right to bear arms. If one is pliable depending on the situation then they all are and I oppose that.
lol you are still stuck on stupid trying to compare the Venezuelan situation to the S Africans. You‘re the one who brought up skin color on this, and continue to do so.

What‘s best for America isn‘t attracting those antisemites who would support Palestine (which is cover for supporting Hamas), along with criticizing not only Israel but also the US.

And lol the US hasn’t done that, and isn’t doing that. That’s because the US immigration system prioritizes family reunification above skills. It’s should be the other way around.
And you've failed to provide a reasonable explanation on why the Afrikaners refugee status was accepted much less expedited. The fake news that they are victims of genocide has been debunked. Some people dying violent deaths or losing farms is not persecution much less genocide. I bring up Venezuelans because they've suffered much worse under maduro. Why does one group get favorable treatment and the other sent packing?

Freedom of speech means that people are allowed to criticize Israel and the US. Why do you pro Constitution when it supports your agenda but attempt to disregard it when it doesn't? It is the foundation of our republic and should be supported period.

You're daft if you think what the trump regime is doing with student visa holders, universities, tourists in general and immigrants isn't making people rethink whether they want to come here to study or for better opportunities. Yes, many of those people aren't skilled and would work menial jobs and some are violent (and should have been screened out by the biden administration) but some are intelligent and capable of starting companies, inventing products/services, and/or doing important research that would have helped America innovate and compete. We were already struggling to maintain our edge and trump decided to double down on stupid. U.S. Still Leads in Attracting International Talent — But For How Long?
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Re: Trump 2.0: MAGAA

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If Trump was right why did he have to make shit up?

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kalm wrote: Fri May 23, 2025 4:52 pm If Trump was right why did he have to make shit up?

He's pathological. It's one of his many mental illnesses. :coffee:
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kalm wrote: Fri May 23, 2025 4:52 pm If Trump was right why did he have to make shit up?

:rofl: Only you would now all of a sudden care about journalistic accuracy while quoting CNN.
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SeattleGriz wrote: Fri May 23, 2025 7:37 pm
kalm wrote: Fri May 23, 2025 4:52 pm If Trump was right why did he have to make shit up?

:rofl: Only you would now all of a sudden care about journalistic accuracy while quoting CNN.
Show me another source still defending the claim.

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kalm wrote: Fri May 23, 2025 8:43 pm
SeattleGriz wrote: Fri May 23, 2025 7:37 pm

:rofl: Only you would now all of a sudden care about journalistic accuracy while quoting CNN.
Show me another source still defending the claim.

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Holy shit. Really? This is like bitching about Trump confusing Iowa with Indiana when he makes a statement about the US.

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Love predictions. This is Conservative Treehouse by the way

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Re: Trump 2.0: MAGAA

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SeattleGriz wrote: Fri May 23, 2025 10:02 pm
kalm wrote: Fri May 23, 2025 8:43 pm

Show me another source still defending the claim.

:coffee:

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Holy shit. Really? This is like bitching about Trump confusing Iowa with Indiana when he makes a statement about the US.

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So which is it Captain Deflecto? CNN’s story was wrong or it was an unintentional verbal mishap?

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SeattleGriz wrote: Fri May 23, 2025 10:43 pm Love predictions. This is Conservative Treehouse by the way

Post a headline so we can evaluate.
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Womp womp…

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kalm wrote: Fri May 23, 2025 10:47 pm
SeattleGriz wrote: Fri May 23, 2025 10:02 pm

Holy shit. Really? This is like bitching about Trump confusing Iowa with Indiana when he makes a statement about the US.

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So which is it Captain Deflecto? CNN’s story was wrong or it was an unintentional verbal mishap?

:coffee:
Like they operate differently in the Congo vs S Africa when it comes to villainizing people who've been there since the 1600's. This is douchebag level nitpicking and completely misses the point.

This would be like you trying to say racism in Washington is much different than Maryland. It's unpossible Ralphie.
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kalm wrote: Fri May 23, 2025 10:51 pm Womp womp…

Who are these two and what is their relation to Doge?
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SeattleGriz wrote: Fri May 23, 2025 11:08 pm
kalm wrote: Fri May 23, 2025 10:51 pm Womp womp…

Who are these two and what is their relation to Doge?

Good grief, call it day and try again tomorrow.....poor dumb bastard... :ohno:
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UNI88 wrote: Fri May 23, 2025 4:23 pm
BDKJMU wrote: Fri May 23, 2025 3:49 pm
lol you are still stuck on stupid trying to compare the Venezuelan situation to the S Africans. You‘re the one who brought up skin color on this, and continue to do so.

What‘s best for America isn‘t attracting those antisemites who would support Palestine (which is cover for supporting Hamas), along with criticizing not only Israel but also the US.

And lol the US hasn’t done that, and isn’t doing that. That’s because the US immigration system prioritizes family reunification above skills. It’s should be the other way around.
And you've failed to provide a reasonable explanation on why the Afrikaners refugee status was accepted much less expedited. The fake news that they are victims of genocide has been debunked. Some people dying violent deaths or losing farms is not persecution much less genocide. I bring up Venezuelans because they've suffered much worse under maduro. Why does one group get favorable treatment and the other sent packing?

Freedom of speech means that people are allowed to criticize Israel and the US. Why do you pro Constitution when it supports your agenda but attempt to disregard it when it doesn't? It is the foundation of our republic and should be supported period.

You're daft if you think what the trump regime is doing with student visa holders, universities, tourists in general and immigrants isn't making people rethink whether they want to come here to study or for better opportunities. Yes, many of those people aren't skilled and would work menial jobs and some are violent (and should have been screened out by the biden administration) but some are intelligent and capable of starting companies, inventing products/services, and/or doing important research that would have helped America innovate and compete. We were already struggling to maintain our edge and trump decided to double down on stupid. U.S. Still Leads in Attracting International Talent — But For How Long?
And saying they aren’t being persecuted is Fake News.
There’s a big difference between allowing in 300k unskilled and 50 skilled. That’s why.

For people that have a right to be here.

I don’t care if a bunch of libs are won’t come to America because wah ‘Trump’. Good.
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BDKJMU wrote: Sat May 24, 2025 8:05 am
UNI88 wrote: Fri May 23, 2025 4:23 pm

And you've failed to provide a reasonable explanation on why the Afrikaners refugee status was accepted much less expedited. The fake news that they are victims of genocide has been debunked. Some people dying violent deaths or losing farms is not persecution much less genocide. I bring up Venezuelans because they've suffered much worse under maduro. Why does one group get favorable treatment and the other sent packing?

Freedom of speech means that people are allowed to criticize Israel and the US. Why do you pro Constitution when it supports your agenda but attempt to disregard it when it doesn't? It is the foundation of our republic and should be supported period.

You're daft if you think what the trump regime is doing with student visa holders, universities, tourists in general and immigrants isn't making people rethink whether they want to come here to study or for better opportunities. Yes, many of those people aren't skilled and would work menial jobs and some are violent (and should have been screened out by the biden administration) but some are intelligent and capable of starting companies, inventing products/services, and/or doing important research that would have helped America innovate and compete. We were already struggling to maintain our edge and trump decided to double down on stupid. U.S. Still Leads in Attracting International Talent — But For How Long?
And saying they aren’t being persecuted is Fake News.
There’s a big difference between allowing in 300k unskilled and 50 skilled. That’s why.

For people that have a right to be here.

I don’t care if a bunch of libs are won’t come to America because wah ‘Trump’. Good.
White South Africans are the victims of political persecution about as much as the following:
- 60 Minutes, CBS and other networks that trump has targeted for retribution
- law firms who have represented trump's opponents
- international students in the US who support Palestinians
- Bruce Springsteen, Taylor Swift, etc.
- anyone else trump has threatened to sick the DoJ on because they hurt his tender feelings

Students here on a visa have a right to be here.

You're more concerned with ideological, ethnic and religious purity than you are with America's competitive position in the world pecking order.
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UNI88 wrote: Sat May 24, 2025 9:45 am
BDKJMU wrote: Sat May 24, 2025 8:05 am
And saying they aren’t being persecuted is Fake News.
There’s a big difference between allowing in 300k unskilled and 50 skilled. That’s why.

For people that have a right to be here.

I don’t care if a bunch of libs are won’t come to America because wah ‘Trump’. Good.
White South Africans are the victims of political persecution about as much as the following:
- 60 Minutes, CBS and other networks that trump has targeted for retribution
- law firms who have represented trump's opponents
- international students in the US who support Palestinians
- Bruce Springsteen, Taylor Swift, etc.
- anyone else trump has threatened to sick the DoJ on because they hurt his tender feelings

Students here on a visa have a right to be here.

You're more concerned with ideological, ethnic and religious purity than you are with America's competitive position in the world pecking order.
Those prople at CBS, those law firms, int students, shitty singers were threatened with violence & murder because of their race, we’re threatened with having, or had their homes/lands confiscated. Wow who knew.

A U.S. visa is a privilege, not a right.

And lawl you’re the one who brought up race in the 1st place (a couple weeks ago when the story of the 50+ S Africans broke) and are clearly more concerned about it. And if those were 50 black Africans being brought in you and the rest of the left wouldn’t be saying a word. Heck you wouldn’t even know about it because the MSM would have ignored it.
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BDKJMU wrote: Sat May 24, 2025 10:05 am
UNI88 wrote: Sat May 24, 2025 9:45 am

White South Africans are the victims of political persecution about as much as the following:
- 60 Minutes, CBS and other networks that trump has targeted for retribution
- law firms who have represented trump's opponents
- international students in the US who support Palestinians
- Bruce Springsteen, Taylor Swift, etc.
- anyone else trump has threatened to sick the DoJ on because they hurt his tender feelings

Students here on a visa have a right to be here.

You're more concerned with ideological, ethnic and religious purity than you are with America's competitive position in the world pecking order.
Those prople at CBS, those law firms, int students, shitty singers were threatened with violence & murder because of their race, we’re threatened with having, or had their homes/lands confiscated. Wow who knew.

A U.S. visa is a privilege, not a right.

And lawl you’re the one who brought up race in the 1st place (a couple weeks ago when the story of the 50+ S Africans broke) and are clearly more concerned about it. And if those were 50 black Africans being brought in you and the rest of the left wouldn’t be saying a word. Heck you wouldn’t even know about it because the MSM would have ignored it.
Those "people" are being punished not because they did something illegal but because they said or did something that trump didn't like. trump is the President of the United States. He is using the DoJ to use lawfare to persecute them. There is more to persecution than just violence.

A visa is a privilege and they earned that privilege. Using flimsy reasoning to attempt to take away their visas is a violation of their right to free speech. While some who speak out in support of Palestinians in Gaza probably support hamas, It cannot be assumed that all of them do anymore than it can be assumed that a US political leader supports hamas because he accepts bribes, oops gifts and development contracts, from Qataris leaders who provide financial support for hamas. To argue one and dismiss the other is hypocritical. trump, lil' marco and ICE Barbie should not be rescinding their visas just because they participated in a protest or wrote and op-ed in support of Palestinians without proving their support for hamas. They are here legally and they have the right to due process.

You've failed to provide a logical reason why the South Africans were given special treatment that's been denied to refugees with darker skin. It's more than fair to question whether race was a factor.
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houndawg wrote: Sat May 24, 2025 6:52 am
SeattleGriz wrote: Fri May 23, 2025 11:08 pm

Who are these two and what is their relation to Doge?

Good grief, call it day and try again tomorrow.....poor dumb bastard... :ohno:
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SeattleGriz wrote: Fri May 23, 2025 11:08 pm
kalm wrote: Fri May 23, 2025 10:51 pm Womp womp…

Who are these two and what is their relation to Doge?
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I’ll save you some time. Grok agrees with this post in general and finds it likely true.

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UNI88 wrote: Sat May 24, 2025 10:41 am
BDKJMU wrote: Sat May 24, 2025 10:05 am
Those prople at CBS, those law firms, int students, shitty singers were threatened with violence & murder because of their race, we’re threatened with having, or had their homes/lands confiscated. Wow who knew.

A U.S. visa is a privilege, not a right.

And lawl you’re the one who brought up race in the 1st place (a couple weeks ago when the story of the 50+ S Africans broke) and are clearly more concerned about it. And if those were 50 black Africans being brought in you and the rest of the left wouldn’t be saying a word. Heck you wouldn’t even know about it because the MSM would have ignored it.
Those "people" are being punished not because they did something illegal but because they said or did something that trump didn't like. trump is the President of the United States. He is using the DoJ to use lawfare to persecute them. There is more to persecution than just violence.

A visa is a privilege and they earned that privilege. Using flimsy reasoning to attempt to take away their visas is a violation of their right to free speech. While some who speak out in support of Palestinians in Gaza probably support hamas, It cannot be assumed that all of them do anymore than it can be assumed that a US political leader supports hamas because he accepts bribes, oops gifts and development contracts, from Qataris leaders who provide financial support for hamas. To argue one and dismiss the other is hypocritical. trump, lil' marco and ICE Barbie should not be rescinding their visas just because they participated in a protest or wrote and op-ed in support of Palestinians without proving their support for hamas. They are here legally and they have the right to due process.

You've failed to provide a logical reason why the South Africans were given special treatment that's been denied to refugees with darker skin. It's more than fair to question whether race was a factor.
You told us there was no thing as Lawfare and to accept the Department of Justice only by the book. Remember how Trump's cases, which fell apart were called Lawfare and you objected? TDS
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UNI88 wrote: Sat May 24, 2025 1:10 pm
SeattleGriz wrote: Fri May 23, 2025 11:08 pm

Who are these two and what is their relation to Doge?
BDK says that
BDKJMU wrote: Sun May 18, 2025 10:02 amREADING IS FUNDAMENTAL… :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :lol: :lol: :lol: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Who are they? I still don't know. If they have special insight by being involved is what I am asking.
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SeattleGriz wrote: Sun May 25, 2025 9:05 am
UNI88 wrote: Sat May 24, 2025 10:41 am
Those "people" are being punished not because they did something illegal but because they said or did something that trump didn't like. trump is the President of the United States. He is using the DoJ to use lawfare to persecute them. There is more to persecution than just violence.

A visa is a privilege and they earned that privilege. Using flimsy reasoning to attempt to take away their visas is a violation of their right to free speech. While some who speak out in support of Palestinians in Gaza probably support hamas, It cannot be assumed that all of them do anymore than it can be assumed that a US political leader supports hamas because he accepts bribes, oops gifts and development contracts, from Qataris leaders who provide financial support for hamas. To argue one and dismiss the other is hypocritical. trump, lil' marco and ICE Barbie should not be rescinding their visas just because they participated in a protest or wrote an op-ed in support of Palestinians without proving their support for hamas. They are here legally and they have the right to due process.

You've failed to provide a logical reason why the South Africans were given special treatment that's been denied to refugees with darker skin. It's more than fair to question whether race was a factor.
You told us there was no thing as Lawfare and to accept the Department of Justice only by the book. Remember how Trump's cases, which fell apart were called Lawfare and you objected? TDS
Prove it. Quote the post(s) where I said there was no such thing as lawfare.

There is a difference between saying that trump was not the victim of lawfare for the federal charges and saying there is no such thing as lawfare.

Why were the South Africans given special treatment that's been denied to other refugees?
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