2020 General Election

[Ivytalk]

Something troubling/interesting is happening. And it's similar to what happened prior to the 2016 election.

In June, the most watched TV show in prime time was "Tucker Carlson Tonight." Note, not just most watched cable news show; or most watched cable show. Most watched. Period. Including network TV. And the second most watched show was Hannity.

This rating surge for Fox programs is similar to what happened in 2016. As the summer progressed, and advanced into fall, more viewers started tuning into FOX news shows. But even in 2016, the FOX shows were not beating out network prime time shows.

Of course, networks are now showing re-runs in prime time, so it is not the hottest time period for them. Still, I'm afraid that these remarkable ratings numbers speak to the potential of wider support for Trump than the polls seem to be capturing at the moment. This is not going to be a slam dunk for Biden.

Funny you should mention Carlson. He announced yesterday that some sleazy NYT reporter is about to issue a story revealing Carlson’s home address, with the goal of facilitating an Antifa ransacking of his residence. That very thing happened to Carlson at his last residence. His family was terrorized. I’m no fan of Carlson, but this Schitt is beyond the pale.

[AZGrizFan]

Something troubling/interesting is happening. And it's similar to what happened prior to the 2016 election.

In June, the most watched TV show in prime time was "Tucker Carlson Tonight." Note, not just most watched cable news show; or most watched cable show. Most watched. Period. Including network TV. And the second most watched show was Hannity.

This rating surge for Fox programs is similar to what happened in 2016. As the summer progressed, and advanced into fall, more viewers started tuning into FOX news shows. But even in 2016, the FOX shows were not beating out network prime time shows.

Of course, networks are now showing re-runs in prime time, so it is not the hottest time period for them. Still, I'm afraid that these remarkable ratings numbers speak to the potential of wider support for Trump than the polls seem to be capturing at the moment. This is not going to be a slam dunk for Biden.

Funny you should mention Carlson. He announced yesterday that some sleazy NYT reporter is about to issue a story revealing Carlson’s home address, with the goal of facilitating an Antifa ransacking of his residence. That very thing happened to Carlson at his last residence. His family was terrorized. I’m no fan of Carlson, but this Schitt is beyond the pale.

NYT better hope to hell nothing happens to Carlson or his family. He will OWN that company.

[AZGrizFan]

Something troubling/interesting is happening. And it's similar to what happened prior to the 2016 election.

In June, the most watched TV show in prime time was "Tucker Carlson Tonight." Note, not just most watched cable news show; or most watched cable show. Most watched. Period. Including network TV. And the second most watched show was Hannity.

This rating surge for Fox programs is similar to what happened in 2016. As the summer progressed, and advanced into fall, more viewers started tuning into FOX news shows. But even in 2016, the FOX shows were not beating out network prime time shows.

Of course, networks are now showing re-runs in prime time, so it is not the hottest time period for them. Still, I'm afraid that these remarkable ratings numbers speak to the potential of wider support for Trump than the polls seem to be capturing at the moment. This is not going to be a slam dunk for Biden.

Nothing to see here.....move along....Biden has this thing in the bag....no need to even come out and vote....

[Winterborn]

KA.......BOOM!!!

WB had a class called "Survival" where he learned to survive on a diet of bison patties and to use them to treat all manner of medical maladies from black eyes to prairie flea bites.

Those of us in that class just called it "The School of Hard Knocks".

[Ibanez]

Funny you should mention Carlson. He announced yesterday that some sleazy NYT reporter is about to issue a story revealing Carlson’s home address, with the goal of facilitating an Antifa ransacking of his residence. That very thing happened to Carlson at his last residence. His family was terrorized. I’m no fan of Carlson, but this Schitt is beyond the pale.

NYT better hope to hell nothing happens to Carlson or his family. He will OWN that company.

Agreed. NYT better think long and hard before doing something like that.

I don't know how NY is but in SC, I can put your name into the tax database and find the address for most public officials or celebrities. Some of them don't put it through an LLC or something like that to hide.

[Winterborn]

NYT better hope to hell nothing happens to Carlson or his family. He will OWN that company.

Agreed. NYT better think long and hardbefore doing something like that.

I don't know how NY is but in SC, I can put your name into the tax database and find the address for most public officials or celebrities. Some of them don't put it through an LLC or something like that to hide.

That would perpetrate toxic masculinity.

[SDHornet]

So you’re saying that millions of Trump voters will emerge like the Mole People on November 3? Mmmkay.

You hire Presidents in large part for their crisis management skills. Measured by that rubric, Trump has been a colossal failure, and it gets worse every time he tweets.

Your first sentence is largely what happened in 2016. Would it surprise you to see it happen again?

[SDHornet]

What happens if Trump loses and refuses to concede?

I think that’s left wing media blather


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Yup. Funny and sad to see some people on here (not named Trip, jelly, houndy) actually pedal that laughable narrative.

[SDHornet]

Former Obama voters voting for Trump were well documented - mostly in the Rust Belt


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And the question is has Trump gave them enough of a reason to go back on that decision and/or have the democrats done enough to earn back those votes.

Well considering Biden's platform openly supports some of the Green New Deal rhetoric, I'm thinking it won't help his cause with those folks.

[SDHornet]

One of my classes was called “Games”. It’s where we learned a variety of activities like arts and crafts to wall ball in training for engaging various populations from kids to adults to the developmentally disabled and experienced playing them. Rigorous academic training I tell ya.

You’re not so special!

Ivy had a class called "Etiquette" where he learned proper pinky position while drinking tea ...

[UNI88]

I think that’s left wing media blather


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Yup. Funny and sad to see some people on here (not named Trip, jelly, houndy) actually pedal that laughable narrative.

Do I think it's anywhere near likely? No but Trump cracked open that door on his own when asked whether he would accept the election results ...

I have to see. Look, you — I have to see. No, I’m not going to just say ‘yes.’ I’m not going to say no and I didn’t last time either

I think it's more likely that Trump fears he's going to get his azz kicked and withdraws with a serious "health issue". Then he can claim for the rest of his life that he would have won if not for the "health issue".

[SDHornet]

Yup. Funny and sad to see some people on here (not named Trip, jelly, houndy) actually pedal that laughable narrative.

Do I think it's anywhere near likely? No but Trump cracked open that door on his own when asked whether he would accept the election results ...

I have to see. Look, you — I have to see. No, I’m not going to just say ‘yes.’ I’m not going to say no and I didn’t last time either

I think it's more likely that Trump fears he's going to get his azz kicked and withdraws with a serious "health issue". Then he can claim for the rest of his life that he would have won if not for the "health issue".

He's too far in to withdrawal over health imo. And I found great ironic hilarity with Hilldogs recent comments on Trump accepting election results.

[UNI88]

Do I think it's anywhere near likely? No but Trump cracked open that door on his own when asked whether he would accept the election results ...

I think it's more likely that Trump fears he's going to get his azz kicked and withdraws with a serious "health issue". Then he can claim for the rest of his life that he would have won if not for the "health issue".

He's too far in to withdrawal over health imo. And I found great ironic hilarity with Hilldogs recent comments on Trump accepting election results.

You're probably right and nothing is ever Hildamort's fault.

[AZGrizFan]

Do I think it's anywhere near likely? No but Trump cracked open that door on his own when asked whether he would accept the election results ...



I think it's more likely that Trump fears he's going to get his azz kicked and withdraws with a serious "health issue". Then he can claim for the rest of his life that he would have won if not for the "health issue".

He's too far in to withdrawal over health imo. And I found great ironic hilarity with Hilldogs recent comments on Trump accepting election results.

Like I said yesterday, she STILL hasn't accepted the results from 2016, so she's hardly the one to talk.

[SeattleGriz]

Yup. Funny and sad to see some people on here (not named Trip, jelly, houndy) actually pedal that laughable narrative.

Do I think it's anywhere near likely? No but Trump cracked open that door on his own when asked whether he would accept the election results ...

I have to see. Look, you — I have to see. No, I’m not going to just say ‘yes.’ I’m not going to say no and I didn’t last time either

I think it's more likely that Trump fears he's going to get his azz kicked and withdraws with a serious "health issue". Then he can claim for the rest of his life that he would have won if not for the "health issue".

I read the majority of the polling was oversampling Democrats by 9%. The usual trick.

Trump is going to win again.

[BDKJMU]

Do I think it's anywhere near likely? No but Trump cracked open that door on his own when asked whether he would accept the election results ...



I think it's more likely that Trump fears he's going to get his azz kicked and withdraws with a serious "health issue". Then he can claim for the rest of his life that he would have won if not for the "health issue".

I read the majority of the polling was oversampling Democrats by 9%. The usual trick.

Trump is going to win again.

Yep. 2016 exit polls 33% electorate identified as Republican, yet latest polls Quinnipiac, Wa Po, NBC/WSJ, etc only polling 24%-26% Republicans.

[Ivytalk]

I read the majority of the polling was oversampling Democrats by 9%. The usual trick.

Trump is going to win again.

Yep. 2016 exit polls 33% electorate identified as Republican, yet latest polls Quinnipiac, Wa Po, NBC/WSJ, etc only polling 24%-26% Republicans.

And crickets from our resident survey-sampling “expert” JStWronge.

[kalm]

Do I think it's anywhere near likely? No but Trump cracked open that door on his own when asked whether he would accept the election results ...



I think it's more likely that Trump fears he's going to get his azz kicked and withdraws with a serious "health issue". Then he can claim for the rest of his life that he would have won if not for the "health issue".

I read the majority of the polling was oversampling Democrats by 9%. The usual trick.

Trump is going to win again.

I agree with ‘88. He’s lost whatever fucking mind he had before becoming president.

I still doubt he’ll be the Republican candidate come November.

Even if he is, more and more demographics are going to Biden. Biden leads Trump by 15 in the suburbs which is a historic margin for a Dem. Trump beat Clinton by 10.

[Ivytalk]

I read the majority of the polling was oversampling Democrats by 9%. The usual trick.

Trump is going to win again.

I agree with ‘88. He’s lost whatever fucking mind he had before becoming president.

I still doubt he’ll be the Republican candidate come November.

Even if he is, more and more demographics are going to Biden. Biden leads Trump by 15 in the suburbs which is a historic margin for a Dem. Trump beat Clinton by 10.

Trump’s ego won’t let him weasel out at this point. He’d be labeled a Quitter if he tried that. Plus, he’d open himself right up to those New York legal inquisitions right away.

[Ibanez]

I agree with ‘88. He’s lost whatever fucking mind he had before becoming president.

I still doubt he’ll be the Republican candidate come November.

Even if he is, more and more demographics are going to Biden. Biden leads Trump by 15 in the suburbs which is a historic margin for a Dem. Trump beat Clinton by 10.

Trump’s ego won’t let him weasel out at this point. He’d be labeled a Quitter if he tried that. Plus, he’d open himself right up to those New York legal inquisitions right away.

GABBY JOHNSON IS RIGHT!


Trumps ego is too massive to allow him to drop out. Though, if the trends continue he might have to weigh the optics of Dropping Out vs Losing. Losing would be worst, for him.

[Ivytalk]

Trump’s ego won’t let him weasel out at this point. He’d be labeled a Quitter if he tried that. Plus, he’d open himself right up to those New York legal inquisitions right away.

GABBY JOHNSON IS RIGHT!


Trumps ego is too massive to allow him to drop out. Though, if the trends continue he might have to weigh the optics of Dropping Out vs Losing. Losing would be worst, for him.

The Sheriff is near!

[Ibanez]

GABBY JOHNSON IS RIGHT!


Trumps ego is too massive to allow him to drop out. Though, if the trends continue he might have to weigh the optics of Dropping Out vs Losing. Losing would be worst, for him.

The Sheriff is near!

That was one of my father's favorite movies. When he passed away a year ago yesterday, 2 siblings and I watched it with him. He had been non-communicative for about a week but you can see him trying to smile. I miss that guy.

[UNI88]

Trump’s ego won’t let him weasel out at this point. He’d be labeled a Quitter if he tried that. Plus, he’d open himself right up to those New York legal inquisitions right away.

GABBY JOHNSON IS RIGHT!


Trumps ego is too massive to allow him to drop out. Though, if the trends continue he might have to weigh the optics of Dropping Out vs Losing. Losing would be worst, for him.

Yep. Aren't bone spurs a form of quitting? Isn't bankruptcy a form of quitting? Trump is in it for himself and he quits when it's convenient and profitable. Quitting might be easier then losing on his monstrous but fragile ego.

[Col Hogan]

[Ivytalk]

What this country really needs is....MORE COWBELL!