January 6 - How much do you care?

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January 6 - How much do you care?

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Re: January 6 - How much do you care?

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Ibanez wrote: Thu Jun 09, 2022 2:23 pm
BDKJMU wrote: Wrong- those topics are greatly effecting most Americans in. negative way in their everyday lives. Jan 6 isn’t.
If it had been a democrat, you’d be waiting in the gallery to watch the hearings.


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Where are the prime time hearings on the 2020 summer of riots, looting, burning and the destruction of personal property?
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This former NFL head coach is 100% correct:
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BDKJMU wrote: Thu Jun 09, 2022 2:31 pm
UNI88 wrote: Thu Jun 09, 2022 2:15 pm
Whether January 6 was and is just as newsworthy as those other events is an opinion and as such neither mine nor yours is right or wrong despite what you might hear in ultra-MAGAt echo chambers.

Maybe you can tell me why Trumpanzees want January 6 and related investigations to disappear from the headlines. A belief that they aren't newsworthy isn't enough to explain their passionate opposition.
So you think 1/6 is AS newsworthy to MOST AMERICANS as the current record high gas prices, record high inflation, supply shortages, record crime, record illegal immigration? :suspicious:
I think it's extremely important to the future of this country that we try to get to the bottom of what happened that day and why. And I think it's fair to ask what any one who opposes that line of inquiry is trying to hide.
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BDKJMU wrote: Thu Jun 09, 2022 2:35 pm This former NFL head coach is 100% correct:
If January 6 was a "dust-up" then the AnTiFa riots were accurately described as "mostly peaceful protests".
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BDKJMU wrote: Thu Jun 09, 2022 2:34 pm
Ibanez wrote: Thu Jun 09, 2022 2:23 pm
If it had been a democrat, you’d be waiting in the gallery to watch the hearings.


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Where are the prime time hearings on the 2020 summer of riots, looting, burning and the destruction of personal property?
why don't you go start a thread about it? :coffee:
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UNI88 wrote: Thu Jun 09, 2022 2:48 pm
BDKJMU wrote: Thu Jun 09, 2022 2:35 pm This former NFL head coach is 100% correct:
If January 6 was a "dust-up" then the AnTiFa riots were accurately described as "mostly peaceful protests".
Completely disagree.
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AZGrizFan wrote: Thu Jun 09, 2022 3:56 pm
UNI88 wrote: Thu Jun 09, 2022 2:48 pm
If January 6 was a "dust-up" then the AnTiFa riots were accurately described as "mostly peaceful protests".
Completely disagree.
With what?

IMO, January 6 was much more than a "dust-up" and the AnTiFa riots were far from "mostly peaceful protests".

Bottom line, I believe that Jack Del Rio was far from "100% correct".
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UNI88 wrote: Thu Jun 09, 2022 2:15 pm
BDKJMU wrote: Thu Jun 09, 2022 2:04 pm
Wrong- those topics are greatly effecting most Americans in. negative way in their everyday lives. Jan 6 isn’t.
Whether January 6 was and is just as newsworthy as those other events is an opinion and as such neither mine nor yours is right or wrong despite what you might hear in ultra-MAGAt echo chambers.

Maybe you can tell me why Trumpanzees want January 6 and related investigations to disappear from the headlines. A belief that they aren't newsworthy isn't enough to explain their passionate opposition.
Wrong. Irregardless of what you or I think, what is most newsworthy is what the majority of the publoc thinks is most newsworthy. Amd those other items dwarf 1/6 in that regard.
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BDKJMU wrote: Thu Jun 09, 2022 4:14 pm
UNI88 wrote: Thu Jun 09, 2022 2:15 pm
Whether January 6 was and is just as newsworthy as those other events is an opinion and as such neither mine nor yours is right or wrong despite what you might hear in ultra-MAGAt echo chambers.

Maybe you can tell me why Trumpanzees want January 6 and related investigations to disappear from the headlines. A belief that they aren't newsworthy isn't enough to explain their passionate opposition.
Wrong. Irregardless of what you or I think, what is most newsworthy is what the majority of the publoc thinks is most newsworthy. Amd in my opinion those other items dwarf 1/6 in that regard.
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Why are you so passionately opposed to an investigation into what happened on January 6 and why it happened? If it's simply because it wasn't newsworthy the solution is to change the channel to the FPC (Fox Propaganda Channel) and ignore it.

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UNI88 wrote: Thu Jun 09, 2022 4:21 pm
BDKJMU wrote: Thu Jun 09, 2022 4:14 pm
Wrong. Irregardless of what you or I think, what is most newsworthy is what the majority of the publoc thinks is most newsworthy. Amd in my opinion those other items dwarf 1/6 in that regard.
FYP

Why are you so passionately opposed to an investigation into what happened on January 6 and why it happened? If it's simply because it wasn't newsworthy the solution is to change the channel to the FPC (Fox Propaganda Channel) and ignore it.

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I will be ignoring the nothingburger..
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BDKJMU wrote: Thu Jun 09, 2022 4:45 pm
UNI88 wrote: Thu Jun 09, 2022 4:21 pm
FYP

Why are you so passionately opposed to an investigation into what happened on January 6 and why it happened? If it's simply because it wasn't newsworthy the solution is to change the channel to the FPC (Fox Propaganda Channel) and ignore it.

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I will be ignoring the nothingburger.
Good. Let's see if you can back that up by refraining from making any additional posts about the hearings/investigation.
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UNI88 wrote: Thu Jun 09, 2022 4:59 pm
BDKJMU wrote: Thu Jun 09, 2022 4:45 pm
I will be ignoring the nothingburger.
Good. Let's see if you can back that up by refraining from making any additional posts about the hearings/investigation.
Only if you do the same.
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BDKJMU wrote: Thu Jun 09, 2022 5:09 pm
UNI88 wrote: Thu Jun 09, 2022 4:59 pm
Good. Let's see if you can back that up by refraining from making any additional posts about the hearings/investigation.
Only if you do the same.
It's not a nothingburger to me, why should I ignore it and not post?

Posting about it shows that it's more than a nothingburger to the poster.
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UNI88 wrote: Thu Jun 09, 2022 4:10 pm
AZGrizFan wrote: Thu Jun 09, 2022 3:56 pm

Completely disagree.
With what?

IMO, January 6 was much more than a "dust-up" and the AnTiFa riots were far from "mostly peaceful protests".

Bottom line, I believe that Jack Del Rio was far from "100% correct".
One lasted about six hours, many were let in by capitol police and wandered around taking pictures; the only death was a protestor, and there was very little damage or vandalism (a laptop, a window and a podium, essentially). The other has gone on unchecked for about 3 years in various cities, caused tens of billions of dollars in damage, 25+ people dead, thousands of businesses and lives destroyed and disrupted.

They are nothing like each other.
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BDKJMU wrote: Thu Jun 09, 2022 5:09 pm
UNI88 wrote: Thu Jun 09, 2022 4:59 pm

Good. Let's see if you can back that up by refraining from making any additional posts about the hearings/investigation.
Only if you do the same.
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AZGrizFan wrote: Thu Jun 09, 2022 5:19 pm
UNI88 wrote: Thu Jun 09, 2022 4:10 pm

With what?

IMO, January 6 was much more than a "dust-up" and the AnTiFa riots were far from "mostly peaceful protests".

Bottom line, I believe that Jack Del Rio was far from "100% correct".
One lasted about six hours, many were let in by capitol police and wandered around taking pictures; the only death was a protestor, and there was very little damage or vandalism (a laptop, a window and a podium, essentially). The other has gone on unchecked for about 3 years in various cities, caused tens of billions of dollars in damage, 25+ people dead, thousands of businesses and lives destroyed and disrupted.

They are nothing like each other.

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They may not have actually oversold this. Full frontal assault on Trump. I’m honestly surprised.
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BDKJMU wrote: Thu Jun 09, 2022 5:09 pm
UNI88 wrote: Thu Jun 09, 2022 4:59 pm

Good. Let's see if you can back that up by refraining from making any additional posts about the hearings/investigation.
Only if you do the same.
I bet you didn't even notice, because you weren't watching, how the testimony was almost entirely people who were there with Fat Boy at the time - Bill Barr was particularly damning and he was among the most loyal true believers so you know that the former AG thinks that it isn't a good time to be on Trump's side. :

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kalm wrote: Thu Jun 09, 2022 6:30 pm They may not have actually oversold this. Full frontal assault on Trump. I’m honestly surprised.
Yeah, I thought they'd want to make a splash up front but damn...they're throwing punches with bad intentions. I think they're going for prison time
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My wife was watching it in the other room while I was in the kitchen (just a half wall separate) going over college stuff with my son who's going to college in the fall.

Was anything produced tonight that was different or not already known? It didn't seem like anything groundbreaking was produced. Maybe some new clips of the riot, but those clips weren't really any different than much of what we've already seen before. Other stuff about Trump not believing his family (Ivanka) or close associates (Barr) telling him he lost the election and that the conspiracy theories were bunk has been pretty much known as well. You have to give Trump at least that credit, he is completely transparent in his conduct - he's a buffoon, narcissistic, and not really attached to reality - and he's that way 24/7.

These things, though, tend to be a bore. Maybe it's me, but government proceedings, even when produced with high cost television producers, just are not terribly thrilling stuff. I'm not sure I'll watch much more. I know there was a riot, I know Trump wanted to overturn the election results, I know he encouraged violence, and I would've voted to impeach and remove him after 1/6, or encouraged the remaining cabinet to 25th amendment him. And I wouldn't vote for him for any elected office in the future. But again, we know all of that already, it's been covered pretty extensively since 1/6. What more are they going to talk about in the other 6 (I think there are 6 more) hearings? I can see why they waited until the summer to do the prime time stuff - most networks have nothing to show once summer hits since people aren't watching tv now - putting these hearings on aren't going to hurt them one bit.
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Pwns wrote: Wed Jun 08, 2022 11:57 am Almost no one outside the pundit class GAF about the Jan 6 commission. I'd rather have a commission on gas prices and inflation.
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houndawg wrote: Thu Jun 09, 2022 7:15 pm
kalm wrote: Thu Jun 09, 2022 6:30 pm They may not have actually oversold this. Full frontal assault on Trump. I’m honestly surprised.
Yeah, I thought they'd want to make a splash up front but damn...they're throwing punches with bad intentions. I think they're going for prison time
After just one hour in, I’m not sure they left Garland any choice. The dots being connected to members of congress and the Trump and Bannon tweets and statements on Dec 19th following the attorneys telling Trump they wouldn’t go along with it seem like big tells of the case they’re building.
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kalm wrote: Thu Jun 09, 2022 6:30 pm They may not have actually oversold this. Full frontal assault on Trump. I’m honestly surprised.
You’re surprised that they’re doing this solely in an attempt to prevent Trump from running again?
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