US Strikes Iran Part 2.

[Caribbean Hen]

The winners: Putin and Bibi

A former official who was briefed on the Geneva talks by some of the participants said: “Witkoff and Kushner did not bring a US technical team with them. They used Grossi as their technical expert, but that is not his job. So Jonathan Powell took his own team.

“The UK team were surprised by what the Iranians put on the table,” the former official added.

“It was not a complete deal, but it was progress and was unlikely to be the Iranians’ final offer. The British team expected the next round of negotiations to go ahead on the basis of the progress in Geneva.”

That next round of talks was due to take place in Vienna on Monday 2 March, but never happened. The US and Israel had launched their all-out attack two days earlier.

Powell’s attendance at the Geneva talks, as well as at a previous set of meetings earlier in the month in the Swiss city, helps in part to explain the UK government’s reluctance to back the US attack on Iran, a reluctance that has put the UK-US relationship under unprecedented strain.

The UK saw no compelling evidence of an imminent threat of an Iranian missile attack on Europe, or of Iran securing a nuclear weapon. This is the first time it has become clear that Britain was so closely involved in the talks, and so had good reason to decide whether diplomatic options had been exhausted and a US attack was necessary.

Instead the UK regarded the attack as unlawful and premature since Powell believed the path remained open to a negotiated solution to the long-running issue of how Iran could reassure the US that it was not seeking a nuclear weapon.

Yep, Trump could’ve easily kicked the can down the road and bragged about the art of the deal he worked with the Iranians. Obama‘s deal didn’t do shit did it

I think what it came down to with Trump was he knows you really can’t make a deal with the Iranians, you can go out there and pretend you did something great by making a deal knowing full well the Iranians are snickering behind your back….

This is why Donald Trump is not really a full politician because a politician would get up there and sing proudly
I got a good reason for taking the easy way out D T

Iran would’ve just kept doing what they always do ….lying cheating, and stealing there way towards a nuclear weapon

[kalm]

The winners: Putin and Bibi

Yep, Trump could’ve easily kicked the can down the road and bragged about the art of the deal he worked with the Iranians. Obama‘s deal didn’t do shit did it

I think what it came down to with Trump was he knows you really can’t make a deal with the Iranians, you can go out there and pretend you did something great by making a deal knowing full well the Iranians are snickering behind your back….

This is why Donald Trump is not really a full politician because a politician would get up there and sing proudly
I got a good reason for taking the easy way out D T

Iran would’ve just kept doing what they always do ….lying cheating, and stealing there way towards a nuclear weapon

The effectiveness of the JCPOA is debatable. It certainly slowed nuclear production and increased monitoring.

Trump/Bibi’s alternative of dealing in bad faith, walking away when they were close to a deal, and choosing war ain’t exactly working well is it?

[kalm]

Master level planning…

[Caribbean Hen]

Yep, Trump could’ve easily kicked the can down the road and bragged about the art of the deal he worked with the Iranians. Obama‘s deal didn’t do shit did it

I think what it came down to with Trump was he knows you really can’t make a deal with the Iranians, you can go out there and pretend you did something great by making a deal knowing full well the Iranians are snickering behind your back….

This is why Donald Trump is not really a full politician because a politician would get up there and sing proudly
I got a good reason for taking the easy way out D T

Iran would’ve just kept doing what they always do ….lying cheating, and stealing there way towards a nuclear weapon

The effectiveness of the JCPOA is debatable. It certainly slowed nuclear production and increased monitoring.

Trump/Bibi’s alternative of dealing in bad faith, walking away when they were close to a deal, and choosing war ain’t exactly working well is it?

A deal …. Ain’t really a deal with Iran …. Read my comments again

Generally, people have issues thinking long-term and especially when it involves higher costs and anything Trump because of TDS…

But climate, which Trump wants nothing to do with, is all long-term thinking but involves little sacrifice today … it’s all talk

[BDKJMU]

lot about the Iranian situation — look at this — it’s just 45%. Just 45% of Americans say they care a lot about the situation going on in Iran.”

“So despite all the hubbub, right now we’re talking about less than a majority of Americans who say they care a lot about what’s going on in Iran right now.”

“But take a look at Google searches right now because it just sort of reinforces that point. Americans’ Google searches for Iran. Look at this down 84% versus February 28th when of course the current war started in Iran.”

“And if you look back on Sunday, you look back yesterday searches for the Academy Awards significantly higher are talking about three, four times as high as searches for Iran in the United States of America.”

“I’m just not thinking that this is necessarily going to be the big political mover and shaker that you might expect.”

“The president’s overall approval rating is the same. It’s the same. It was 41% before the current war in Iran started, and it is 41% now.”

“So despite again, all the hubbub, despite all the critics of the president of the United States, what we are seeing right now is a president whose approval rating is steady. And this has not been a big deal politically.”

Headline: The news media are yet again out of touch with the American public.

[UNI88]

Oil prices jump after major Iran gas field is attacked: Iran war updates

Oil prices jumped again after Iran's massive Pars natural gas field was attacked on Wednesday, a major escalation in the U.S.-Israeli war, and Tehran retaliated with strikes on a refinery in Qatar, causing serious damage.

U.S. allies Qatar, the United Arab Emirates and Oman condemned the airstrike on Pars. A White House official told USA TODAY the United States was not part of the attack on Pars, and a Pentagon spokesman referred questions to the Israeli Defense Forces. Benchmark Brent crude prices rose after the attack to approach $110 a barrel.

[UNI88]

Father of service member killed in Iran war said he never told Pete Hegseth to 'finish' the job

“What I heard through tears, through hugs, through strength and through unbreakable resolve was the same from family after family. They said, ‘Finish this. Honor their sacrifice. Do not waver. Do not stop until the job is done,’” Hegseth said.

One of the people he met at Dover Air Force Base in Delaware was Charles Simmons. His 28-year-old son, Tech. Sgt. Tyler H. Simmons, was among the six crew members killed when their refueling plane crashed in Iraq last week.

Simmons recalled his exchange differently.

“I can’t speak for the other families. When he spoke to me, that was not something we talked about,” he told NBC News in an interview Thursday.
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He said he told the defense secretary, “I understand there’s a lot of peril that goes into making decisions like this, and I just certainly hope the decisions being made are necessary.”

Asked if he said anything to Hegseth or Trump about the need to keep fighting the war, Simmons said, “No, I didn’t say anything along those lines.”

Whiskeyleaks trying to redefine reality to fit his own biased narrative.

[Caribbean Hen]

So did Iran really execute by hanging a 19-year-old Iranian wrestler for protesting the evil Iranian regime?

[UNI88]

So did Iran really execute by hanging a 19-year-old Iranian wrestler for protesting the evil Iranian regime?

Yes, they did just like the US really executed an ER nurse for protesting the evil trump regime.

The parallels between the goals of the two regimes are there for anyone with a functioning brainstem to see.

[Caribbean Hen]

Father of service member killed in Iran war said he never told Pete Hegseth to 'finish' the job

“What I heard through tears, through hugs, through strength and through unbreakable resolve was the same from family after family. They said, ‘Finish this. Honor their sacrifice. Do not waver. Do not stop until the job is done,’” Hegseth said.

One of the people he met at Dover Air Force Base in Delaware was Charles Simmons. His 28-year-old son, Tech. Sgt. Tyler H. Simmons, was among the six crew members killed when their refueling plane crashed in Iraq last week.

Simmons recalled his exchange differently.

“I can’t speak for the other families. When he spoke to me, that was not something we talked about,” he told NBC News in an interview Thursday.
...
He said he told the defense secretary, “I understand there’s a lot of peril that goes into making decisions like this, and I just certainly hope the decisions being made are necessary.”

Asked if he said anything to Hegseth or Trump about the need to keep fighting the war, Simmons said, “No, I didn’t say anything along those lines.”

Whiskeyleaks trying to redefine reality to fit his own biased narrative.

Looks like you left a lot of a story out… shocking

Simmons came away from Dover with a better impression of the war’s architects than he had when he arrived. Trump teared up and hugged him, evincing warmth and compassion at odds with the president’s public persona, Simmons said. He also credited Trump for looking him “straight in the eye.”

“He extended his condolences father to father and conveyed how difficult it is to make decisions to put the children of other parents in peril,” Simmons said.

As for Hegseth, “When I talked to him, I got the impression that he was torn because he seemed to be a very compassionate man, faced with difficult decisions as it pertains to war,” Simmons said.

“I also let him know that Tyler was my only son. And you could see the emotion on his face. And I think those kinds of things you can’t fake,” he continued.

“I was pleasantly surprised because the perception is they [Trump and Hegseth] don’t care, they’re going to do what they want to do,” he said. “I got to see a different side of them up close and personal.”

[UNI88]

Father of service member killed in Iran war said he never told Pete Hegseth to 'finish' the job

Whiskeyleaks trying to redefine reality to fit his own biased narrative.

Looks like you left a lot of a story out… shocking

Simmons came away from Dover with a better impression of the war’s architects than he had when he arrived. Trump teared up and hugged him, evincing warmth and compassion at odds with the president’s public persona, Simmons said. He also credited Trump for looking him “straight in the eye.”

“He extended his condolences father to father and conveyed how difficult it is to make decisions to put the children of other parents in peril,” Simmons said.

As for Hegseth, “When I talked to him, I got the impression that he was torn because he seemed to be a very compassionate man, faced with difficult decisions as it pertains to war,” Simmons said.

“I also let him know that Tyler was my only son. And you could see the emotion on his face. And I think those kinds of things you can’t fake,” he continued.

“I was pleasantly surprised because the perception is they [Trump and Hegseth] don’t care, they’re going to do what they want to do,” he said. “I got to see a different side of them up close and personal.”

That doesn't change Whiskeyleaks putting words in their mouth that they didn't say. Why did he do that?

And if you want to talk about respect for the fallen - why is trump fundraising off of Americans who died in a war that he started? That's a douchebag move.

[BDKJMU]

So did Iran really execute by hanging a 19-year-old Iranian wrestler for protesting the evil Iranian regime?

Yes, they did just like the US really shot a lunatic ER nurse for violently obstructing ICE.

The parallels between the goals of the two regimes are there for anyone with a functioning brainstem to see.

FIFY.

Any who sees a parallel between the 2 has gone full retard...

[UNI88]

Yes, they did just like the US really shot a lunatic ER nurse for violently obstructing ICE.

The parallels between the goals of the two regimes are there for anyone with a functioning brainstem to see.

FIFY.

Any who sees a parallel between the 2 has gone full retard...

WRONG!

There is an error in your lame rewrite that invalidates the entire post using your BDKnitpicking standards.

[kalm]

Help this make sense…

[Caribbean Hen]

Yes, they did just like the US really shot a lunatic ER nurse for violently obstructing ICE.

The parallels between the goals of the two regimes are there for anyone with a functioning brainstem to see.

FIFY.

Any who sees a parallel between the 2 has gone full retard...

Yes full Cukoos nest

Maybe nurse Ganny will drop in and administer his medication

[UNI88]

FIFY.

Any who sees a parallel between the 2 has gone full retard...

Yes full Cukoos nest

Maybe nurse Ganny will drop in and administer his medication

The parallels are obvious - 2 protesters murdered by 2 regimes attempting to violently oppress opposition.

[SeattleGriz]

Help this make sense…

Interesting to me how all the people I've been reading to try and figure out Russia/Ukraine are expressing everything you express about US/Israel/ Iran.

You seem to be totally flipped on Russia/Ukraine though. This leads me to believe you only go with what your echo chamber says and not your brain.

[UNI88]

Help this make sense…

Interesting to me how all the people I've been reading to try and figure out Russia/Ukraine are expressing everything you express about US/Israel/ Iran.

You seem to be totally flipped on Russia/Ukraine though. This leads me to believe you only go with what your echo chamber says and not your brain.

[kalm]

Help this make sense…

Interesting to me how all the people I've been reading to try and figure out Russia/Ukraine are expressing everything you express about US/Israel/ Iran.

You seem to be totally flipped on Russia/Ukraine though. This leads me to believe you only go with what your echo chamber says and not your brain.

What are you trying to piece together here? Reverse engineering into some sort of imagined gotcha?

Please explain yourself more coherently. It’s entertaining to watch you struggle.

[kalm]

[UNI88]

Interesting to me how all the people I've been reading to try and figure out Russia/Ukraine are expressing everything you express about US/Israel/ Iran.

You seem to be totally flipped on Russia/Ukraine though. This leads me to believe you only go with what your echo chamber says and not your brain.

What are you trying to piece together here? Reverse engineering into some sort of imagined gotcha?

Please explain yourself more coherently. It’s entertaining to watch you struggle.

It's a self own - he's totally flipped on Russia/Ukraine compared to US/Israel/Iran and the only way he knows to reconcile his hypocrisy his by accusing others of it. Just proves that he only goes with what his echo chamber says and not his brain.

[UNI88]

The only principle MAQA has is to blindly support whatever trump does, says or wants.

[Caribbean Hen]

Yes full Cukoos nest

Maybe nurse Ganny will drop in and administer his medication

The parallels are obvious - 2 protesters murdered by 2 regimes attempting to violently oppress opposition.

I’m pretty sure the 19-year-old Iranian wrestler didn’t wanna die by hanging

Not so sure about Pretti, who was doing everything he possibly could to provoke law-enforcement

[Caribbean Hen]

Interesting to me how all the people I've been reading to try and figure out Russia/Ukraine are expressing everything you express about US/Israel/ Iran.

You seem to be totally flipped on Russia/Ukraine though. This leads me to believe you only go with what your echo chamber says and not your brain.

Awl
ain’t that sweet, A young Chang and Eng Self portrait

[UNI88]

The parallels are obvious - 2 protesters murdered by 2 regimes attempting to violently oppress opposition.

I’m pretty sure the 19-year-old Iranian wrestler didn’t wanna die by hanging

Not so sure about Pretti, who was doing everything he possibly could to provoke law-enforcement

Interesting perspective ... I'm pretty sure the Iranian regime and it's supporters would argue that the wrestler was "doing everything he possibly could to provoke" them and he FAFO.

I do appreciate you continuing to help demonstrate the parallels.