The Trump Whistleblower Extravaganza Thread

[89Hen]

Link?

https://www.google.com/search?q=state+d ... 55&bih=823

Chalk that up as one I learned today. Sounds like it was dormant and had only recently come back to life, but it was open.

[Chizzang]

https://www.google.com/search?q=state+d ... 55&bih=823

Chalk that up as one I learned today. Sounds like it was dormant and had only recently come back to life, but it was open.

[kalm]

Now that the New York Times mentioned that the so called whistleblower met with Schiff ahead of time, are any of you libs going to admit this whole thing is just another hoax and more lies?

Schiff should at least be required to give up his seat,he won’t. JSO and Jelly will continue to let their TDS end all rational thought, oh well,the next rabbit hole will appear soon.

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Yawn...

Mr. Trump, who has focused his ire on Mr. Schiff amid the burgeoning Ukraine scandal, wasted no time in trying to use the revelation about the whistle-blower’s attempt to alert Congress to try to denigrate his complaint. In a news conference in the East Room of the White House after this article was published, Mr. Trump called it a scandal that Mr. Schiff knew the outlines of the whistle-blower’s accusations before he filed his complaint.

“Big stuff. That’s a big story,” Mr. Trump said, waving a copy of the article in the air. “He knew long before and helped write it, too. It’s a scam,” the president added, accusing Mr. Schiff of helping the whistle-blower write his complaint. There is no evidence that Mr. Schiff did, and his spokesman said he saw no part of the complaint before it was filed.

The whistle-blower’s decision to offer what amounted to an early warning to the intelligence committee’s Democrats is also sure to thrust Mr. Schiff even more forcefully into the center of the controversy.

On Wednesday, Mr. Trump said Mr. Schiff should be forced to resign for reading a parody of the Ukraine call at a hearing, an act Mr. Trump has called treasonous and criminal.

“We don’t call him shifty Schiff for nothing,” said Mr. Trump. “He’s a shifty dishonest guy.”

Mr. Schiff’s aides followed procedures involving the C.I.A. officer’s accusations, Mr. Boland said. They referred the C.I.A. officer to an inspector general and advised him to seek legal counsel.

Mr. Schiff never saw any part of the complaint or knew precisely what the whistle-blower would deliver, Mr. Boland said.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/02/us/p ... WCSCMqImWc

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Now that the New York Times mentioned that the so called whistleblower met with Schiff ahead of time, are any of you libs going to admit this whole thing is just another hoax and more lies?

Minus your gaslighting of the situation, how does that in any way make it a hoax?

The REPRESENTATIVES of Congress are there to assist you. The whistleblower contacted the Intel Committee for guidance on how to properly file a complaint without giving them details.

Sounds like the Committee did its job.

[css75]

Now that the New York Times mentioned that the so called whistleblower met with Schiff ahead of time, are any of you libs going to admit this whole thing is just another hoax and more lies?

Minus your gaslighting of the situation, how does that in any way make it a hoax?

The REPRESENTATIVES of Congress are there to assist you. The whistleblower contacted the Intel Committee for guidance on how to properly file a complaint, per normal. Sounds like the Committee did its job.

Watch and learn, this will die a slow death.


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[CitadelGrad]

Let's remember, Bill Barr is a Bushie. His investigations are just political theater. No Democrat will go to prison.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics ... Bf?ocid=sf

[Ibanez]

Now that the New York Times mentioned that the so called whistleblower met with Schiff ahead of time, are any of you libs going to admit this whole thing is just another hoax and more lies?

Schiff should at least be required to give up his seat,he won’t. JSO and Jelly will continue to let their TDS end all rational thought, oh well,the next rabbit hole will appear soon.


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I don't follow your logic.

[CitadelGrad]

Now that the New York Times mentioned that the so called whistleblower met with Schiff ahead of time, are any of you libs going to admit this whole thing is just another hoax and more lies?

Schiff should at least be required to give up his seat,he won’t. JSO and Jelly will continue to let their TDS end all rational thought, oh well,the next rabbit hole will appear soon.


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I don't follow your logic.

When asked about it, Schiff lied. He said, "We haven't spoken directly to the whistleblower."

The question is, why did he lie?

[Ibanez]

I don't follow your logic.

When asked about it, Schiff lied. He said, "We haven't spoken directly to the whistleblower."

The question is, why did he lie?

Good question.


But since when have Republicans cared if leaders lie? Because the leader of their party can’t go 5seconds without lying.


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[UNI88]

I don't follow your logic.

When asked about it, Schiff lied. He said, "We haven't spoken directly to the whistleblower."

The question is, why did he lie?

Because he's a Shiffty little bastage?

Next question, why does Trump lie so frequently?

[Skjellyfetti]

He's insecure due to daddy issues.

[Ibanez]

When asked about it, Schiff lied. He said, "We haven't spoken directly to the whistleblower."

The question is, why did he lie?

Because he's a Shiffty little bastage?

Next question, why does Trump lie so frequently?

Who knows. But does it matter?


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[UNI88]

Because he's a Shiffty little bastage?

Next question, why does Trump lie so frequently?

Who knows. But does it matter?

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I don't really care but I do think it's ironic that a Trump supporter is asking why Schiftt lies. Trump doesn't have a monopoly on dishonesty.

[css75]

Now that the New York Times mentioned that the so called whistleblower met with Schiff ahead of time, are any of you libs going to admit this whole thing is just another hoax and more lies?

Schiff should at least be required to give up his seat,he won’t. JSO and Jelly will continue to let their TDS end all rational thought, oh well,the next rabbit hole will appear soon.


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I don't follow your logic.

What did they meet about? Did Schiff help him/her? Did Schiff add to it or subtract?

At best, it looks very suspicious.


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[CAA Flagship]

If true, I'll have no sympathy when the whistleblower's identity is leaked.

[Ibanez]

I don't follow your logic.

What did they meet about? Did Schiff help him/her? Did Schiff add to it or subtract?

At best, it looks very suspicious.


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From the articles I read, it’s all laid out why, who introduced them and what happened.

You’re speculating that Schiff modified the complaint.


Regardless - the IG found it to be valid. And the White House has corroborated some of it. The IG also states that the whistle blower has first hand knowledge of other activities.





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[Ibanez]

Who knows. But does it matter?

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I don't really care but I do think it's ironic that a Trump supporter is asking why Schiftt lies. Trump doesn't have a monopoly on dishonesty.

Yes, it’s ironic. Now they care about the truth? That’s comical.


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[Ibanez]

If true, I'll have no sympathy when the whistleblower's identity is leaked.

Let’s hope nobody commits that crime. Whistle blowers are important. We should protect people that speak up when they see something wrong occurring.

I’m honestly not sure how anyone can be against that.


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[JohnStOnge]

Now that the New York Times mentioned that the so called whistleblower met with Schiff ahead of time, are any of you libs going to admit this whole thing is just another hoax and more lies?

Schiff should at least be required to give up his seat,he won’t. JSO and Jelly will continue to let their TDS end all rational thought, oh well,the next rabbit hole will appear soon.


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You know, I actually came here just now to talk about how I heard a Republican Congressman relay false information today to a NPR interviewer when he said that the New York Times said the whistleblower met with Schiff ahead of time and that Schiff was involved in crafting the complaint.

I heard it while I was on a 10 hour drive today. I got to my hotel room and almost as soon as I turned on the TV I knew that it was a false claim. I got on line and looked up the New York Times story. By the time I found it at https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/02/us/p ... lower.html they'd had to add some things about how Trump was making false claims about their story. I'm guessing the Congressman saw Trump make the false claims and took it from there. Apparently the Congressman wasn't the only one.

The New York Times did not say Schiff met with the whistleblower. It did not say Schiff was involved in crafting the complaint. It said the whistlblower spoke to a House Intelligence Committee staffer about how to handle the situation and the House Intelligence Committee staffer provided instructions as to how to do it consistent with the law. And the staffer recommended the whistleblower get an attorney.

This is getting really bad. Trump operates through misinformation and he's apparently corrupted the entire conservative movement so that it does the same thing.

Wake up css75. You are being lied to. Repeatedly. You are riding the wrong horse.

I am telling you that as an ultra conservative who recognized what Trump is very early on. I'm not telling you because I am a liberal. You are going down the wrong path. This is not a good guy. He is corrupting the entire movement and he's corrupting the Republican Party.

[CID1990]

If true, I'll have no sympathy when the whistleblower's identity is leaked.

Why? My take is that the guy first went to a Congressional staffer to try to figure out where to go with it. That’s not inappropriate. Was Schiff’s staffer appropriate? We don’t know. Maybe the whistleblower is Schiff’s constituent.

Going to Congress is an appropriate action though. If I were a whistleblower at State, I’d probably go to either the SFRC or Tim Scott or Lindsey


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[CID1990]

Now that the New York Times mentioned that the so called whistleblower met with Schiff ahead of time, are any of you libs going to admit this whole thing is just another hoax and more lies?

Schiff should at least be required to give up his seat,he won’t. JSO and Jelly will continue to let their TDS end all rational thought, oh well,the next rabbit hole will appear soon.


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You know, I actually came here just now to talk about how I heard a Republican Congressman relay false information today to a NPR interviewer when he said that the New York Times said the whistleblower met with Schiff ahead of time and that Schiff was involved in crafting the complaint.

I heard it while I was on a 10 hour drive today. I got to my hotel room and almost as soon as I turned on the TV I knew that it was a false claim. I got on line and looked up the New York Times story. By the time I found it at https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/02/us/p ... lower.html they'd had to add some things about how Trump was making false claims about their story. I'm guessing the Congressman saw Trump make the false claims and took it from there. Apparently the Congressman wasn't the only one.

The New York Times did not say Schiff met with the whistleblower. It did not say Schiff was involved in crafting the complaint. It said the whistlblower spoke to a House Intelligence Committee staffer about how to handle the situation and the House Intelligence Committee staffer provided instructions as to how to do it consistent with the law. And the staffer recommended the whistleblower get an attorney.

This is getting really bad. Trump operates through misinformation and he's apparently corrupted the entire conservative movement so that it does the same thing.

Trump hasn’t corrupted the conservative movement.

I’m sure you meant to say the Republican Party.


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[JohnStOnge]

Trump hasn’t corrupted the conservative movement.

I’m sure you meant to say the Republican Party.


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I disagree. If you look at polls and look at the breakdown among people who identify as "conservative" they approve of Trump overwhelmingly. Not quite as overwhelmingly as those who identify as "Republican." But overwhelmingly.

If ANY conservative approves of Trump there is a problem.

[SeattleGriz]

I don't really care but I do think it's ironic that a Trump supporter is asking why Schiftt lies. Trump doesn't have a monopoly on dishonesty.

Yes, it’s ironic. Now they care about the truth? That’s comical.


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Yes, people care about how a 2 year investigation on Russia collusion started and ended up a big goose egg.

[CAA Flagship]

If true, I'll have no sympathy when the whistleblower's identity is leaked.

Why? My take is that the guy first went to a Congressional staffer to try to figure out where to go with it. That’s not inappropriate. Was Schiff’s staffer appropriate? We don’t know. Maybe the whistleblower is Schiff’s constituent.

Going to Congress is an appropriate action though. If I were a whistleblower at State, I’d probably go to either the SFRC or Tim Scott or Lindsey


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How does it not go the the DOJ first? Why let Congress take the first stab at it?

[SDHornet]

No, in this case his VP leveraged to have a foreign investigator fired over a cush spot he leveraged for his son on the board of a foreign company. Have you not been paying attention?

I’ve not seen proof of that. If that were the case, and Republicans had the evidence, wouldn’t that be out for all of us to see for ourselves?

None of here has first hand information.

Let’s use some critically thinking skills here. Let’s try to think independently here and not just spout whatever CNN or Fox tells us.


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Orange Man probably provided the best response to this:

The Hill's John Solomon provided a treasure trove of docs/info on the Biden's and Ukraine dealings. But yeah, no biggie.